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Sin, Morality, and Christ's Life

sermonindex Dec 9, 2011

WHAT DOES "SIN" MEAN?

The term in Greek and Hebrew means "to fall short of the goal, miss the mark, and to fall short of one's destiny."

When God created Adam, He gave Adam his own divine life and very nature. His goal for was for all of mankind to be in complete union with Him and to participate in His Divine Life fully and to enjoy communion with Him.

When Adam sinned he died to the Divine Life and union with God and no obedience to any law could ever restore him to the Divine Life.

The real issue was the loss of the Divine Life not the violation of the law. If sin is only a violation of the law, then morality consists only in obeying the law. Such morality could not contribute to one's salvation, but could only render one completely alienated from Christ.

The essence of sin should also not be understood as a rebellion against God's will in a legalistic sense, nor to fall below a given norm of behavior. To sin means to violate God's will. Sin means to fall short of the destiny (mark, goal) for which man was created. Since the "goal," "destiny" and "mark" for which man was created is full communion with God, to partake of the Divine Nature), sharing in His glory and immortality, then "sin" means to fall short of the destiny of the participation in God. Sin is not the failure to live a moral life

SIN IS MORE THAN BREAKING A LAW OR A MORAL CODE.

Death is not a punishment of God: it is, rather, the result of man's failure to live up to his destiny of participating in God's immortality. Death is the primary manifestation of separation and alienation from God; it is also our principle source of bondage (Heb. 2:15 ) and the driving force behind individual sins. Thus death is the "sin of the world," and as a result of what Adam did, all of mankind is in a bondage to the manner in which the world deals with the question of death, as Paul again says, "Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world..." (Gal.4:3). The Apostle expresses this concept of sin when he says that "all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". In Adam everyone has missed the mark and has fallen short of the goal of their destiny, which is to participate in the glory of God. In Adam, all mankind, therefore, became "sinful" and each person became a "sinner". Death is both cause and result of missing the goal of the immortality which results from union with God.

Do not forget it was Adam's and Eve's eating and participating in tree of knowledge of good and evil that was the cause of their death. After that mankind became obsessed with attempting to be moral by doing certain things that they considered to be good and avoiding certain this they considered to be bad. No morality could ever make them alive again.

Morality is not even the real issue. Sin than is not a moral issue at all and really has nothing to morality at all. True Christianity is the embracing, enjoying and participating in Christ’s Life as much as he knows and sees.
The true Christian who is participating in his union with God is not concerned about morality because he knows that it is Christ’s Life alone that makes him fully acceptable to God.

Many religions, including the Christian religion, emphasize the embracing of a moral code with proper behavior to be acceptable to God. In fact they define morality as keeping the law and good proper conduct.

Now the truth is the embracing of any moral code becomes a substitute for the True Life that only comes from Christ. It also becomes a substitute for the transformation of the heart.

Anything that causes us to be arrogant, prideful and lead us to the judging and condemning other people is completely contrary to true Christianity, the Life of Christ.

Now this emphasis on embracing a moral code which seems to be very prevalent teaching in many denominations across America is a complete and utter lie. In fact, it really is hearsay because it offers an alternate way to the life of Christ and an alternative for the transformation of the heart.

This is a false gospel because the embracing of any moral code, law or even good behavior can never produce the life that is required. It has no effect on changing or transforming any person's heart. It is totally imposable for it to even affect the heart in the slightest way.

This moral code often becomes a platform on which many view and judge other people. Any person who is seen deviating from this code is criticized and many times even condemned.

When anyone moralizes any issue whatsoever they actually make any solution totally impossible.

True Christianity is not a moral force that shapes and controls a person life. True Christianity is not following the teachings of Christ. It is not the embracing of any doctrine, creed, law, code or anything seen as virtuous at all. It is the embracing of Christ’s Life and enjoying the union with Him and to participate in His Divine Life fully and to enjoy communion with God.

Morality can never transform your heart or give you life. It is only by embracing Christ’s Life that you experience total acceptance by God.

Any teaching which teaches the embracing of any moral code with proper behavior to be acceptable to God is total hearsay!

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Sree Dec 9, 2011



True Christianity is not following the teachings of Christ.

If the above quote was title of this post, it would have saved 10 mins of my time.

sermonindex Dec 9, 2011

My point is that a person can practice and follow the teachings of Christ without ever experiencing His Life.

Gal 2:20, "I am crucified with Christ: neverthless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

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Sree Dec 9, 2011


My point is that a person can practice and follow the teachings of Christ without ever experiencing His Life.

If anyone can follow the teachings of Christ by their own strength then Holy Spirit is of no use to man and God gave it unnecessarily to us. I tell you even Jesus cannot follow his own teachings if he had not had the Holy Spirit.


sermonindex Dec 9, 2011

Then I guess you agree with my statement that true Christianity is not following the teachings of Christ. It is not the embracing of any doctrine, creed, law, code or anything seen as virtuous at all. It is the embracing of Christ’s Life and enjoying the union with Him and to participate in His Divine Life fully and to enjoy communion with God.

sermonindex Dec 9, 2011

I posted this before but here it is again.

What Makes Us Christians?

Is it what we believe?
Is it what we do?
Is is what we do not do?
Is it what we think?
Is it our doctrines?
Is it our faith?
Is it our love?
Is it by effort?
Is it our religion?
Is it our morals?
Is it our values?

No to all of this!!!

It is CHRIST"S LIFE ALONE INSIDE US THAT MAKES US CHRISTIANS!!!

He is the Christian in me - I am dead. - I have HIS LIFE

1 John 5:12, "He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life."

There are only two possibilities; you are either "in Adam" or "in Christ". You are either a Christian or you are not. Either you have Christ's Life or you do not. There is no in between when it comes to being a Christian. No person can ever be partly dead and partly alive. You must be one or the other. Dead men do not have Life and living men are not dead.

Christian living is nothing less than His Divine Life being expressed through our mortal bodies. Many Christians struggle because they fail to understand God's method by which they may experience consistent victory. Why can't they live the Christian life? The reason for this is that God never intended for them to live it. Only one Person has ever been able to live the Christ-life and that Person is Christ Jesus Himself.

Every true believer knows that he did nothing to become a Christian. It was God's gift to him. He simply trusted Christ. Yet many believe that they must now do something to become a victorious Christian. So they substitute trying in the place of trusting. Then they wonder why it won't work. The fact is that it will never work! No matter how honest and sincere they may be, how hard they try, or how much they ask for God's help, they will never be able to live the Christian life. Christianity isn't hard for to live, it's completely impossible!

The fundamental characteristic of the Christian's life is that Jesus has given His Life to us and desires to express it through us at every moment. Christian living is not us trying to live it. It is Christ simply being Christ in us and living through us at every moment.

God expects us to fail when we try to obey the law. The fact is that God never intended us to live by the law at all. We were created to be the dwelling place of God. The purpose of the law is to show us our inability to keep it and bring us to Christ. God uses the law to show us that we can not depend our own efforts and strength and to show us our need for Christ. After we see our true need for Christ we then can turn to Him in utter dependency. Otherwise, we would continue to keep trying to please Him.

Don't be disappointed in yourself if you fail. We should never be disappointed since God is not disappointed in us. To be disappointed is to have an unfulfilled expectation. God knows everything about us. He has no expectation of us in our self and neither should we. God is not disappointed in you because His expectation is that you should give up trying to be a good Christian and make abiding in Christ and obeying His inward speaking as your ONLY objective. Christ is the Christian in you - you are not the Christian. You need to abide in Him for your daily living. Christ knows exactly how to be the perfect Son of God. He is working to turn us from self effort to trust Christ within.

Read this quote by Bill Freeman

"Christ is the Christian life.

Col. 3:3-4 "For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory."

The oneness between believers and the practice of the church are both dependent on the centrality of Christ. Christ is the center. Indeed, Christ Himself is the reality of the Christian life and the church life. When Christ is my center, I am free from my self. I am free from self-consciousness. I am free from self-condemnation. I am free from anxiety. I am totally free because I died and my life is now hidden with Christ in God. "It is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me" (Gal. 2:20).

Christ is our joy. Christ is our encouragement. Christ is our faith. Christ is our living. We interact with Him in everything in our lives. We interact only with Christ. Our interaction is not with ourselves—with self-reflection and self-condemnation. Christ is our righteousness (1 Cor. 1:30). He is "all and in all" to us (Col. 3:11). Jesus Christ is the Christian life. We need to look away to Him. Look away from yourself. Look away from your failure. Look away from your bad mood. Look away unto Jesus. Christ is the centrality of everything in our Christian life. He is the Christian life itself in every aspect."

We've always thought that we needed to be delivered from sin, the world, the flesh, etc. But actually, we needed to be "delivered for reliance upon the law and our own efforts," to trust Christ in us.

God wants us to know we're delivered from the demands of the law because Jesus has fulfilled it. We were also redeemed from the curse of the law."

Matthew 5:17, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Galatians 3:13, "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree."

2 Cor. 5:21, "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.'

Col. 2:14, "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross."

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Sree Dec 9, 2011


Then I guess you agree with my statement that true Christianity is not following the teachings of Christ.

No I was saying a non Christian cannot follow Christ and only a Christian can follow it. It is a privilege we get to take up his cross and follow him. That is why Paul calls Jesus as our forerunner and tells us that 'Follow me as I follow Christ'. If anyone is not following the teachings of Jesus then he is not loving Jesus, so he is not a Christian at all.

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Sree Dec 9, 2011


The real issue was the loss of the Divine Life not the violation of the law. If sin is only a violation of the law, then morality consists only in obeying the law. Such morality could not contribute to one's salvation, but could only render one completely alienated from Christ.


Sin than is not a moral issue at all and really has nothing to morality at all.

Moral law is God given, it is one of the greatest proof that we are all created by God. Also it is a primary difference between man and animals. If Morality is of no use then why did God give us Morality?
Also the only Sin is falling shot of God's Goal for us and what we do everyday against our morality is not sin, then how did Enoch walk with God? Which Jesus did he embrace to walk and please God and to spend eternity with God. What did Noah do to be called Blameless by God? Can you please answer these questions?

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Heb. 11:5, "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God."

We all know that without faith it is impossible to please God.

Attempting to keep the law or attempting to live by any moral code can never please God.

C
Christinyou Dec 10, 2011

Galatians 3:13, "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree."


Do we see He was on the tree because He drank the cup and I was in that cup and I was the real one that was cursed?
When He died I died, in my death with Him I am no longer a sinner in the eyes of God our Father. Even if this flesh does sin God is faithful to forgive and cleanse from all righteousness, not because I confess, but because of What Christ did on the Cross, I can not confess unless Christ is in me, because why should I confess I am wrong when I don't believe God exists.

Christ is all in all, there is no chance of forgiveness or even the knowledge of sin if Christ is not all and we are born again of the Spirit of Christ. My faith=His faith because He is in me and now, "The life I now live, I live by the faith of the Son of God who loved me and gave His Life for me".

Don't stop now tuc, Christ life is all, and any works I do I do by Him that is in me, and these works will be fruitful.

Colossians 1:27-29 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

Only His works in me, "which worketh in me mightily" count for the body of Christ His Church, all baptized into One Spirit, the Spirit of Christ in me.

In Christ: Phillip

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Sree Dec 10, 2011


Heb. 11:5, "By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God."

We all know that without faith it is impossible to please God.

Brother, you still did not answer my question. My question is assuming that the only Sin we have done is falling from God's plan because of Adam's act then how did Enoch and Noah please God to come out of this Sin? They did not have Jesus to put this only sin on during their time. So whom did they have their faith on? What did it mean that Enoch had this testimony that he pleased God, testimony is the way you live, which means in every action he did he pleased God. There was no Moses Law that time then how did he please God to show his faith?

First of all your definition of Sin is wrong, it is each one of us personally falling short of God's glory by our own action and not just Adam falling short. It all started from Adam and we inherited this rebellious nature to fight against God's will. Take the blame brother, it needs courage to accept that we are responsible for our action. Adam could not accept it when God asked him why he eat the fruit, he blamed on Eve instead.

Second Moral law is the first and foremost thing based on which every unbeliever will be judged. Believers will not be judged based on that because we have a Holy Spirit that is much higher standard than Moral law ( I cannot talk to you about Holy Spirit because you don't even understand Moral law). If there is no moral law and there is no need to follow it, then any passer by street can come and kill you for no reason. Why is he not doing it, not because of fear of punishment, who will punish him if there is no official who fears moral law and stays true to federal laws? All the civilization that we have today is all because of God's Moral law, whenever human beings start ignoring it totally and give no respect to it then God destroys it like that time of Noah, Sodom and Gomorrah. If Sin is only falling short of God's glory by Adam then why did God destroy the earth in the times of Noah and also the people in Sodom and Gomorrah?

Brother since your definition of Sin and Moral laws is wrong I cannot even talk to you about what Christ did to us, it is like talking Christ to a Barbarian who does not mind killing others. First I have to show him the moral law inside him that he has been ignoring and then only I can show him what he has lost because of it and now what Christ has done for him.

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