Blessings and Tithing

Hi All,Just a question on Tithing,I am in a church that teaches Tithing which I dont hold too.If the rest of the church want to keep tithing thats something I cant influence without causing dis-unity so I leave sleeping dogs lie.This scripture in my opinion clashes with tithing.

If I bless Israel but dont Tithe(according to the belief of a tither i shouldnt be blessed)surely god couldnt bless me if tithing were correct.
What do you think?any thoughts on this scripture and tithing?

"I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

Thanks Staff

I would suggest that the reason most churches teach tithing, is because it is taught by Paul in his epistles.

For those of us who have learned to tithe, not by commandment, but because we honour God with our first fruits, and are cheerfully giving back to Him as we are taught in the NT, He has not failed to bless us in exactly the way He said He would. (See Malachi)

Jason Smith
Standing in Oregon

Hi Jason,
Thanks for the reply.I knew as I was typing that I didnt state my question clearly,so sorry I'l try again.
If I bless Israel,I am promised to be blessed but christians who tithe say if I dont tithe I dont get blessed.So here I am a christian who blesses Israel but does not Tithe.
Do I get blessed or not?
Yours Staff
P.s I obviously dont see Paul teaching tithing

100% a heart issue. God is not short on cash. What He wants is our obediance.

The question should be, are we willing to put others needs in front of our own? If so, then titheing should not be an issue, since it is done with a heart towards pleasing God.

If we are to tithe because man tells us that we will not be blessed, I would say under most circumstances like that, to not tithe.

I am sketchy about any organization that says that we will recieve less of the Lord unless we give to "them". After reading what you wrote, it seems that this may be the case in your church?

Blessings!

http://www.tithing-russkelly.com/

Download the PDF. It explains the tithe.

Brother, Tithing and giving exactly 10% is to be under law. In NT, we are building God's house which is the body of Christ, the Church. Whenever God's house is built, it is built with cheerful giving by people who did not measure and give 10%. Take example of Moses building the tabernacle or Solomon building temple, both of them were built by Cheerful giving and not by Tithe.

In NT life, we live by Spirit and not by law, so even giving should be led by Spirit and not by law. But Churches that preach to give by law (tithe) knows that its members are either not spiritual or the Church itself does not have faith that the spirit will provide for the needs of Church. If a church itself lacks faith then how can its members have faith?

Hi again,
I guess my question is more for christians who Tithe,
I'l just repeat it so you dont have to look back.

If I bless Israel,I am promised to be blessed but christians who tithe say if I dont tithe I dont get blessed.So here I am a christian who blesses Israel but does not Tithe.
Do I get blessed or not?

I am with the comments by Sree and Miccah and have read the very good Pdf posted,thank you
Staff

by theEphah

Great question, I need some insight on this subject also. I don't understand why most churches teach against the law of Moses and at the same time ask their members to tithe. I wonder why.

Tithing isn't part of the OT law; it was there bfore the law--See Hebrews 7.1-3.

Hi again,
The points made are interesting but the thread inst meant to be a to tithe or not to tithe thread so I will again
put it forward thanks staff

I guess my question is more for christians who Tithe,
I'l just repeat it so you dont have to look back.

If I bless Israel,I am promised to be blessed but christians who tithe say if I dont tithe I dont get blessed.So here I am a christian who blesses Israel but does not Tithe.
Do I get blessed or not?

theEphah wrote:
Great question, I need some insight on this subject also. I don't understand why most churches teach against the law of Moses and at the same time ask their members to tithe. I wonder why.

Staff wrote:
If I bless Israel,I am promised to be blessed but christians who tithe say if I dont tithe I dont get blessed.So here I am a christian who blesses Israel but does not Tithe.

I do not believe that one is necessarily dependent upon the other.

Since you are not getting the answer you are seeking, let me ask you this... Are you talking about giving monetarily to Israel or are you sending your 'tithe' to Israel? Maybe the answer will help us answer you more clearly.

God bless you, brother,
Lisa

Hi Lisa,
I think blessing Israel is not about finances and I dont think you could tithe to State of Israel(not scriptural) but you could Tithe to an evangelistic organisation or church that evangelizes in Israel if you believed in tithing.
However God says that he will bless us if we bless Israel and that could be financially,who knows,who can limit God in the way he blesses.
My point is that tithing and being blessed by God for blessing Israel are at odds with each other if people that tithe are saying that god wont bless you financially if you dont tithe.I think that one is correct and the other isnt.
Why do you not believe one isnt dependant on the other?

thanks staff

In the beginning Cain and Abel tithed Abel of his livestock and Cain of the yield of the ground so tithing in that sense was being done from the beginning.

God says I AM the same yesterday and forever Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I do not change" The laws of God are still in effect today. God has not changed

God The Son Jesus says "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Paul says in Romans 3:27-31
"Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law. Is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith. Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law."

Malachi 3:8-9
“Will a man rob God? Yet you rob me. But you ask, ‘How do we rob you?’“In tithes and offerings. You are under a curse—the whole nation of you—because you are robbing me.

Malachi 3:13-15
“You have said harsh things against me,” says the Lord. “Yet you ask, ‘What have we said against you?’
“You have said, ‘It is futile to serve God. What did we gain by carrying out his requirements and going about like mourners before the Lord Almighty? But now we call the arrogant blessed. Certainly the evildoers prosper, and even those who challenge God escape.’”

If we do not tithe the work of God cannot be done fully such as sending missionaries overseas to evangelize.
If you break one commandment its like breaking all. How can you place one above the other?

Jesus says again "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 5:19

Hi Tammy,
My question is not about tithing as I dont believe it correct for today.
My question is how do tithers reconcile God blessing those who bless Israel.
If I bless Israel God is bound by his word to bless me in whatever way he chooses which could be financially but alot of christians who tithe say that if you dont tithe god wont bless you financially.So my Question is what if a christian blesses Israel financially but does not tithe,what will god do?(according to a chritian tither point of view)
On a footnote all though the thread is in essence not about it, the beginning of Acts gives account of giving not tithing to support gods work.
I will be interested in your reply,
thanks Staff

So my Question is what if a christian blesses Israel financially but does not tithe,what will god do?

I think everyone including me has answered this question. I believe by saying 'blessing Israel financially' you mean you give money to Church but does not give exactly 10% as stated in Tithe system.
In Christian life giving is all about Spirit filled giving with a motive to serve God and not in a way expecting a return of Blessing. Those who Tithe with an expectation of getting a Financial blessing back might get a financial blessing but will have no reward in Heaven (ref Matthew 6).

Matthew 6-3:-But when you give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving will be in secret and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

That is why I believe even passing the offering bucket in public before everyone in Church is against the teachings of Jesus who told us not to give in Public.
If you truly believe in the teachings of Jesus then you should not remember the financial offerings made to Church. If you do not remember them then where is the question of getting whether you will be blessed or not as you have not tithed.

Hi Sree,
I dont think you have a handle on my question yet sorry,

God says he will bless those who bless Israel.

Alot of Tithers say that you wont get any financial or financial related blessing unless you tithe(my question is really for these people who hold this view)

These two views are at odds with each other,do you agree?
Yours Staff