Reclaiming the 7 Mountains

sermonindex Dec 23, 2011

Hi Saints,

I have another question. I belong to 3 different churches. Only because I feel like I'm being fed by all of them. And bc I also view the church as a whole and haven't questioned theology as of yet.

Well, at my charasmatic church they believe in reclaiming the 7 mountains of society, such as politics, education, entertainment so on. And by having I.fluence in those areas we bring the kingdom down.

My non-denominational church on the other hand disagrees and says you can either have one or the other.

I used to think that Gods Kingdom, when it falls will bring power and repentance, PROOF of Jesus as God, healings and dead rising, hands straightening and demons fleeing, homosexual spirits breaking etc. And thru miracles souls will turn to a living God.

But I wonder now. Bc God uses everything to bring a soul into the kingdom. Movies and books I know God has spoken to me thru.

I'm asking bc I can't seem to enjoy anything anymore and I'm a bit frozen. I hate this world and don't know how to run with the horses anymore. I know God has given me a lot of talents and I worry I'm not doing anything with them. But at the same time I just feel like I'm supposed to be dropping all of that and fast and pray which I'm unable to do.for dozens of reasons.

My life has stopped for the past 6 years, I'm homeless by next month. I feel like I'm supposed to fast and touch nothing of this world but maybe I'm being an extremist?

Your thoughts, prayers, testimonies would be appreciated...

Bless you all :)

E

Elibeth Dec 23, 2011

Oh Desertlilly,

I know I cannot put on paper, like so many can,but it sounds to me God is drawing you unto Himself.
My thoughts for you is to seek the kingdom of God.
But you. Might say..But how do I seek ' the Kingdom of God ?
To seek 'the Kingdom of God ,is to seek the King ,who is Jesus.
To say..as Paul said'What would Thou have for me to do Lord ?'

There is times we actually have a need to get alone, just with God ..and His Word.
There are so many voices ..until we just need to hear Him teaching us.
I have found this to be true.
Oh, we might be peculiar.. Set apart....so the world thinks..
Also there are times, when we need to come out from among
some and their teachings.

Next ,I want to share with you about the Kingdom of God .....What the Lord has taught me..(I hope to share the fuller testimony of this sometime later.)

Jesus said the gospel was the 'gospel of the Kingdom of God.'
He preached 'the gospel of the Kingdom'
Paul said,..and he preached 'the Gospel of God ....same one that Jesus preached.

The Kingdom of God ,is a place where a King ,...who is Jesus Rules and is Lord. And that is what He is calling us into....the Word says..that the Kingdom is in us.
As King he comes in ,by way of the Holy Spirit to lead / guide us...be Lord in our lives.
...does it sound strange..? But it is True...Truth.

Well I guess that all for now,

Oh, how I do love the people of God too.

Elizabeth

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Yeshuasboy Dec 23, 2011

If you "belong" to 3 churches hopefully someone could share their home with you, unless God has another plan that is.
I feel for ya though in that situation - I've been there a few times myself.
Being we are strangers and pilgrims here, I find all that new kingdom theology a big hoax, that does nothing but feed the flesh, and have found not one preacher endorsing that theology to be meek and lowly like the Lord of Lord and King of Kings - so, I really don't like the spirit behind the message.
Anyway, by what I discern from your post, I do feel that God is working; and that in faith, as He calls you out of the world, I do hope you even evermore experience His goodness, His strength in your weakness, and His power made perfect in your life to trample down the powers of darkness in this wicked and perverse generation.
God be with you, in you, and through you for His glory that is able to save to the utmost.

D

David_G Dec 23, 2011

The 7 Mountain Heresy. (Mystery Babylon is on 7 Hills) The Kingdom of God will arrive when Jesus comes back at the start of the Millennium. No sooner no later.
Does that Church teach anything related to the end times?

I came out of a "Kingdom Now" Charismatic Church. They don't teach on the End Times.

II PETER CHAPTER 3
THIS second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

sermonindex Dec 23, 2011

Lol. You would think Id have places to Ho but thus far I seem to be cast out and avoided until I can get this kundslinu spirit or familiar spirit off of me.

I still keep in contact but this warefare is unbearable. I'm starting to slide and go towards the charasmatics bc my soul is literally tied with them and possibly fighting against them.

Somehow I'm on their channel and they're helping me by blocking a spiritual passage way that the enemy implanted in my butt. It's quite horrible.

I remember 5 months ago when these spirits broke into every single orifice of my.body there was no else, they started coming in thru my second toe on my left side. So I wore rubber bands to work. I almost had to get my foot amputated. Oddly enough, Hindu women wear rings on that toe to specifically ward off a nasty male spirit.

What I'm learning about the spiritual. Is that no body knows. But the occult seems to know. If the charadmatics weren't so silent about it I wouldn't be so angry with them.

It's like our souls are all tied together. I know it. I'm not the same person. It's like Ezekiel 13. I've spoken out against them, blew the trumpet, but I'm starting to lose faith.

The name of Jesus doesn't work, my spirit seems like its under my feet somewhere. This familiar spirit seems to travel thru ppl push itself into any one of the cords that are entangling me and all I see us the occult winning.

I'm wondering maybe I just don't know something and give in. I used to be meek. I used to be on fire but now I'm just a zombie. Not much different from a scientologist.

This isolation is driving me crazy. And I'm reaching out on sermon index.

Anyway please pray for deliverance and thanks for the encouraging words...

sermonindex Dec 23, 2011

Yea they taught on endtimes. But I didn't pay too much attention. I trust only in the Holy Spirit.

I mean I know that no church is perfect bc in revelations Satan was sitting in all of them. I believe everything has truth to it.

But I'm just at a loss right now. My connection to God is lost. Ive had no compass for 2 years now. All my chakras are broken into, there's a constant battle above my head, these huge mists of bending light. Even the Christians are fighting against eachother. As of now I'm allowing the chatasmatics to win bc they're covering my butt. While the others want to get in it.

I'm know that I'm under attack. And there tied souls. Bc they seem to travel thru me. I sound insane but I assure you I was Normal before I believe the Masons did this to me. Because they're either running the charasmatic church or they're hiding in it. which they from my understanding conjure up the Egyptian Gods from Genesis.

I guess I'm not trying to be woe is me. But honestly ARM yourselves with purity bc this jezebel spirit or kundalini spirit or familiar spirit attaches to anyone with a hint of guilt, shame, or sexual sin. It will suck the annoinying right out if you.

Purity I'm understanding is key.
Thanks for letting me vent.

Jesus is Real.... He has to be.

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Yeshuasboy Dec 23, 2011

Better to be alone here and now though, than in the dungeon of hell consumed with one's own painful thoughts and unable to obtain mercy from the Lord.
SermonIndex is a good site to reach out on.
I'd recommend that you pm Mr Greg Gordon and let him know where you live perhaps so that he may find a possible God-fearing pastor for you to see in that area, and perhaps some God-fearing brothers and sisters that abide in Christ consistently.
Be careful of meeting people on-line. Loneliness to some can be quite a heavy burden at times. They can handle it in the flesh for so long, and then run out into all sorts of wickedness thereafter. Or the devil gets them believing they will never find honest brothers and sisters in Christ, so they lose faith eventually all together.
Regardless, salvation is Christ, and salvation is extremely personal. There will be times when one must walk alone with God, or even walk alone to seek Him until He is found by revealing Himself to the creature.

sermonindex Dec 23, 2011

Thanks yeshuaboy.

Good council on lonliness. One of the reasons I don't go out is this spirit. I read that the jezebel spirit no matter how ugly you make yourself look, will attract and distort communications BTW people.
Which even going to the grocery store I get leared at.

thank you for your wisdom and council.
Revelations2
24 “Now to you I say, and [h] to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will ~~[i]~~ put on you no other burden. 25 But hold fast what you have till I come.

When Jesus says that He won't put on me anymore burden and to hold fast, do you think I just have to live with this or is thete deliverance, you think?

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EvangelTam Dec 23, 2011

Hey,

So I just wanna encourge you to pray and seek God.
The Kingdom of Heaven is a Spiritual reality inside of every believer that expresses itself in how we live!

Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Luke 17:21

also an OT reference to this:

How blessed is the man whose strength is in You, In whose heart are the highways to Zion! Psalm 84:5

This inward Spiritual reality where we abide in, breaks in the physical reality around us through our obedience to Christ. When Christ died He tore the veil allowing the Kingdom of Heaven to break in!

That is why in the gospels He preached the`Kingdom of Heaven is at hand`` Because it had not come yet
However after He died it DID come first with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit the Kingdom of Heaven spread with power!

This is the gospel of the Kingdom! We are not to use man`s methods to take the kingdom by going into it but rather we must take it by Faith and obedience to the King of the Kingdom - One soul at a time!

The reason why the 7 mountain thingy doesnt work is because it tries to impose outward change on society by taking it over, which will never work! Communism tried and failed and I think the whole point of the OT was to show us that we have nothing inside of us that is pleasing to God.

We need a change from the insideout, from the heart thorugh the power of the Holy Spirit living inside of us!

If you are truly born again
The Holy Spirit is living inside of you guiding you into all truth. He is your counselor! SEEK HIM and SEEK Him for deliverance and for the Baptism to fill you up!

I will pray for you.
IN Christ
Evangel

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Yeshuasboy Dec 23, 2011

Christ did come to set captives free, and we have to believe His promises to His children, but at the same time abide by the conditions He gives to us in order for those promises to be fulfilled in His time, and in His way.
We have to set our minds on things above, and not on this Earth.
There was a time in my life years ago, when I opened the door of my heart to deceitful spirits. Man, I put the fire in my lap and I got burned pretty good. But, God is good, God is Love, but He is also jealous. I'm almost amazed I haven't grieved His Spirit away because of my continual stupidity and unbelief at times from dabbling with wickedness years ago.
So, yes, there is hope but only in Him. And I didn't say here what I said so that anyone would be as foolish as me and somehow decide to put God to the test as I have done - because, one will suffer for it in this life - you give the devil a foothold, and he will take it. But some spirits must go out by prayer and fasting as He leads.
Truly, His yoke is easy and His burden is light.
We all must be careful what we bring into our lives, because with some things we may just bring in a curse with it, or a snare, where had we heeded God's simple insruction to begin with, we would have by-passed many self-inflicted sores. I speak for myself when I say these things, and am not trying at all to project my own experiences as anyone else's.

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mguldner Dec 23, 2011

Desertlily

I have read some of the other threads you have started and I see a pattern of "helplessness" in your words and what you are saying. This may seem clique but what you are doing is giving the enemy just enough rope to hang you with. Meaning you are saying things like "I can't shake this spirit" etc. The truth however is YOU CAN. Christ has given you authority in His Holy Name, USE IT. Don't ask God take this spirit away, say in the Name of Jesus Christ I bind this spirit and I break every tie my soul has with it. Repent of the Kundalini and Christ will heal your heart.

When you feel that spirit come on strong put it in its place, even Jezebel was put in her place by who? KING Jehu with the intercession of Elisha. What we have in Christ is a KING that has already slain the beast HE is the victor. Then Christ the King made us all soldiers and gave us a badge showing His Authority is with us, but like a police officer it doesn't do them any good if they don't flash the badge.

You are a wonderful child of God not some push over waste of space and life, You were made for His Glory Honor and Praise THIS is a High calling! Be completely dependant on the Holy Spirit as those other spirits come after, stand firm in Christ as your fortress and defense and they will flee, not because your so awesome and great but because the God you serve is so awesome and great.

Also if the charimatic church you are attending is promoting this kundalini spirit I would break all ties, physically and spiritually. Do this with the same authority as you did in rebuking the spirit.

Yet one more thing, spirits are free for alling you because you have a door(s) open, these can be unresolved pain from your past, unforgiveness, biterness, a secret sin you want to hold onto, or mearly listening to the devil to much and not listening to God enough, scan your heart and mind and body for those open doors and shut them with the Authority of Christ because if Christ closes it, nothing can open it.

And Most importantly Trust Christ with everything (the lesson I am learning here lately) He is your authority apart from Him you have zero authority. I hope this helps you in some way

God Bless,
Matthew