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no_stamp Jan 17, 2005

Hi I'm interested to know who here is a bachelor? What is your reason for being a bachelor. Is it by choice? Like is it to do with what Paul says about those who are married will face many troubles, and that a married man will be concerned with the affairs of this world - how he can please his wife and his interests are divided. But an unmarried man will be concerned about the Lord's affairs - how he can please the Lord. So therefore you choose to remain unmarried. Or are you married because you burn with passion and cannot control yourself and because you would just like to live with a wife and have children?For the last 3 years Ive been saying I dont want to get married I want to be single. One reason is that I think to myself if I struggle to maintain a relationship with God then how can I maintain a decent relationship with my wife. Also I think it is very difficult to find a women who will be prepared to live a difficult life for Christ. Lastly I look at marriages today and see them in so much trouble and the wife and husband has lost their love for each other. Marriage is high maintenance compared to living by yourself. Living by yourself you can go to any degree for Christ. Were the disciples married after Jesus left? Were the prophets married? I think it would be difficult to be married and go to the lengths the prophets and disciples went to.

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philologos Jan 18, 2005

Were the disciples married after Jesus left? Were the prophets married? I think it would be difficult to be married and go to the lengths the prophets and disciples went to.Paul's comments seem to indicate that the 'norm' (though not any kind of requirement) was that the early Christian 'leaders' were married.Do we not have a right to take along a believing wife, even as the rest of the apostles and the brothers of the Lord and Cephas? (1Co 9:5 NASB)

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PreachParsly Jan 18, 2005

I am bachelor. Mainly because I'm a 20 yr old college student. I'm not really looking for a wife or girl friend but when I do get one she will deffinately increase or push my relationship with Christ or she would not be the one for me. I am not married but I would not see how it would hinder your relationship with God if she is seeking just as you are. It would be crazy to think that it would because God ordained marriage. Why would God create something for your pleasure that would draw you away from Him? When a marriage is seeking God it will work out fine. But what you must remember is that there are 3 stages to love and marriage. They are related to your Total Man or the 3 parts God has made you: spirit, soul, and body. Most dont go past the body or soul. Body would be a love or attraction just because of physical appearence. Soul (which is our mind will and emotions)would be a love that might be because you have something in common. For example you both like horses or something, maybe even because you both are christians. But spirit is the true stage of love. Most couples dont get to that stage but when 2 connect in spirt and are married it makes them one seeking God. :-)

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philologos Jan 18, 2005

Hi PreachBut what you must remember is that there are 3 stages to love and marriage. They are related to your Total Man or the 3 parts God has made you: spirit, soul, and body. Most dont go past the body or soul. Body would be a love or attraction just because of physical appearence. Soul (which is our mind will and emotions)would be a love that might be because you have something in common. For example you both like horses or something, maybe even because you both are christians. But spirit is the true stage of love. Most couples dont get to that stage but when 2 connect in spirt and are married it makes them one seeking God.We celebrated our 40th wedding anniversary earlier this month. That's my main quailification for asking the question; 'biblically, why do you think marriage, in which two become one flesh, should also result in union of soul and spirit?'

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PreachParsly Jan 18, 2005

Maybe I should have clarified myself more. What I was trying to show was that there is a love that is deeper than just physical attraction (which would be what you see ie. body) and "having something in common" (which would be your soul or mind). I didnt mean to infer that it was a union of soul and spirt. I should have placed the word body or flesh after i said it makes them one... I was tring to get accross that there is a love that is deeper that physical looks and emotions and thoughts which can change frequently. Do you agree with this? please share your thoughts, i am sure you have much more insight on a sucessful Godly marriage than i do. What do you belive it means for 2 to become 1? and possibly instead of using the word stages i could have used depths of love. The world knows no deeper than a physical or soulical love whether that is inbetween a marriage or any type of relationship. Im sorry i will try to clarify myself more but i was running late so i was in a hurry.

sermonindex Jan 19, 2005

Hi I'm interested to know who here is a bachelor? What is your reason for being a bachelor. Is it by choice? Yea I am 25 years old and am single also. And soon to be a student :-P I have had some of what you could call quote unquote girlfriends. But really when it came down to it, it was not pleasing to the Lord. I am totally convinced in my mind that to know a girl who is in the Lord that encourages you and leads you closer to God is good but to have a girlfriend with all the physical kissing, hugging, holding hands, etc is pretty wordly and doesnt need to take place unless you are sure that God is leading you to pursue her as a wife. I think Ron's scripture he quoted is right on and it is the norm. But God does call people to be single. I feel myself I WILL need a wife and am praying for God to lead me to that one person and confirm it. But our main motives and desires have to be God and He will take care of all other things.. I encourage people not to get into the rat race of dating and trying to find but rather rest in God and know He will lead and guide us in right paths if our heart is FULLY set on him.Some good discussions on this topic are in this recent thread also: Is there a perfect someone?

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openairboy Jan 19, 2005

I am a bachelor, 29 years old, and it is partially by choice and partially out of desire. Well, I should say "lack of desire" maybe. Honestly, I haven't really met anyone that has interested me or they have and has been completely inoppurtune to say the least.Turning 29, however, has given me a greater desire to get married.

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deltadom Apr 9, 2005

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lyndon Apr 10, 2005

RonWe celebrated our 40th wedding anniversary earlier this month. That's my main quailification for asking the question; 'biblically, why do you think marriage, in which two become one flesh, should also result in union of soul and spirit?'This is more of a question than an answer, but what does God see as a marriage? We often read that somebody took someone as his wife but, the bible seems to be somewhat lacking on a ceremony or procedure.On another note shouldn't there be a difference in how we as christians approach marriage, as apposed to those outside the faith. I can't really give a biblical example but it would be my personal opinion that two 'followers of the way' given up to each other in marriage must have a connection in the spirit.This is something that is still going through my mind and I haven't formed any conclusions yet, but as a young guy, would appreciate any insight that could be given.Lyndon

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_Disciple_ Apr 10, 2005

i am, i'm now 21, and what Josh said: "it will have to increase my relationship with Christ" otherwise it will keep me from God.and for me i say "The Lord is my Shepherd, i shall not want" i'm not looking for a girlfriend, i want to live for Him, and if He has someone for me, He will show me, He guides me!i once was searching for a girl by myself without God, and God broke it out of my life in a very hard way, but He renewed my mind so much, that i want to live for my first love Jesus Christ, and i don't care if i have to go as a bachelor through life or as a married men, it's up to Him!btw i made a kind of statement to God, to keep my eyes on my first love Jesus Christ, and not going around worrying or searching hopeing i could find someone."it is better to enter The Kingdom of God alone/single, than to be cast in to hell with wife and all" in Him who guides our path!William

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Eli_Barnabas Apr 11, 2005

I'm 19 and single... but I find I'm much more eager to seek God than to seek a future mate. I feel I could take whatever the Lord may require, whether marriage or not. I would love to serve God completely without a wife but I would also love to serve Him with one!The way I see it, and God has shown me a cool thing in the Word, is this (for those who are 'seeking' a wife):Remember the time Jesus told Peter to cast a line into the water and catch a fish, and the fish would have a coin in it? Well, if Jesus hadn't told him to do that, Peter could fish all the rest of his days and never catch the fish with the coin. Through obedience and trust in Jesus, Peter cast one line and snagged the winner. I believe it is the same in looking for a wife. Don't seek one out in your own strength, wisdom and skill, but seek first the kingdom... be obedient to God and trust that when He says "Go fish", then the very first one you snag will be the one with the coin in it!Neat, huh?In Christ,-Eli

sermonindex Apr 11, 2005

I am a 37 year old pup, just a litte wet behind the ears.I have never married because I had no desires for the opposite sex, those who have read my testimony know why. I have never touched a female or know what it is to kiss one, accept my dear Mother.Sometimes I like the idea of having a wife, one who has control of her emotions, not up and down and flighty.Other times I would like to be completely devoted to God with no interruptions.Karl 8-)

sermonindex Apr 11, 2005

Sometimes I like the idea of having a wife, one who has control of her emotions, not up and down and flighty.Hmm... when you find one like that, let me know! LOLSeriously tho... if God has a woman for you, or the other guys on here, then she will be someone who will build a relationship that will bring you closer to God. Looking on your own without praying for God's wisdom will surely hook you up with a relationship that will bring you further from God. But God designed marriage for several reasons, but I think the most important reason is to enhance your relationship with Him.Until I became a father I never understood God's relationship to me as Father. I never completely understood what Father went thru when His Son died on the cross.Until I was married I never completely understood Christ's love for the church as His bride. Never completely understood how He will feel when His church (bride) is delivered up to Him. I remember seeing my wife coming down the isle.. and son, my heart was racing with excitement (and nervousness)... how much more will Christ's heart race when His bride appears before Him?Other times I would like to be completely devoted to God with no interruptions.Perhaps thats what He's called you to. bro...Krispy

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wallrepairer Apr 11, 2005

This was an interesting discussion for me to read as a single female. Congratulations to many of you who said that you were seeking God first and trusting him to bring along the right person. I am 35, have never dated and am unsure whether I will ever be married but am happy to leave that decision up to God. I have observed a desperation in people build as they hit their late 20s and early 30s. I have watched many people run into marriage who would have never married if they were younger or truly 'seeking God.'I have watched so many women put their lives on hold and simply wait for the man to come along and complete their lives and give them direction. It is so sad that they can't rejoice and embrace the gift of being single. I have loved being single. It has allowed me the opportunity to follow an interesting career working with charities and people in need, I have travelled and lived in a variety of countries doing church planting and evangelism. I currently run my own business and take in foster children who have challenging behaviour. If people sit and wait for their partner or embark on activities to seek out their partner then they are wasting their talents and the gift of life that has been given them. Time marches on and we have only this one life. Go for God, and he will sort out everything else. Keep your head and keep your heart before Him. Thank you for helping me see that there are many men with the right priorities out there.

sermonindex Apr 11, 2005

Krispy wrote: Hmm... when you find one like that, let me know! LOLDon't make cracks like that Krispy...LWMMS.....I just had my upper Wisdom teeth removed today. All my wisdom is gone.LWMMS = Laughing With My Mouth Shut Karl :-P

sermonindex Apr 11, 2005

I just had my upper Wisdom teeth removed today...I'm having one removed in a couple weeks. I can hardly wait.Krispy

sermonindex Apr 11, 2005

I have watched so many women put their lives on hold and simply wait for the man to come along and complete their lives and give them direction. It is so sad that they can't rejoice and embrace the gift of being single.Since I'm 37 and been married almost 16 years, I am probably not the best person to address this... but...God has given most folks a desire to have a mate. It's the way He made us. BUT like everything else, that desire has to be brought under His control... His will. And I think most dont, and that would explain the desperation you're speaking of, wallrepairer.Good post.Krispy

sermonindex Apr 11, 2005

But really when it came down to it, it was not pleasing to the Lord. I am totally convinced in my mind that to know a girl who is in the Lord that encourages you and leads you closer to God is good but to have a girlfriend with all the physical kissing, hugging, holding hands, etc is pretty wordly and doesnt need to take place unless you are sure that God is leading you to pursue her as a wife.As I said before in a post I think that dating and having an girlfriend is pretty much something that is unbiblical and not really a good route for a Christian. I think the best thing to do is to get to know a person as a friend and seek the Lord together and in groups. As the Lord confirms and speaks to your heart then you go and intiate an courtship which really has its intentions of marriage. Courtship is not an excuse to "fool around" thats not the point of it and probably as I said above hugging, kissing, etc really doesn't even need to be done. The Lord will enable and confirm about marriage and as my hermenutics teacher said there always is not an casting of the lots. If the girl is Christian, you like her, and you are both strong in the Lord and have feeling for each other then that could possibly be your wife. The point is not for personal fulfillment or selfishness but to seek something that is good but compliments our relationship with God.

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philologos Apr 12, 2005

Hi LyndonWe had a little discussion on some aspects of your question quite a while ago. In particular I was interested to try to find the original elements of 'marriage' from the scriptures from the original Gen 2 statement of 'two being one'. You will find it hereOn another note shouldn't there be a difference in how we as christians approach marriage, as apposed to those outside the faith. I can't really give a biblical example but it would be my personal opinion that two 'followers of the way' given up to each other in marriage must have a connection in the spirit. I think you are right, but the only verse I can think to substantiate it is the phrase 'in the Lord' from The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord. (1Co 7:39 KJV)Although some servants of God have served Him wonderfully without the 'support' of their wives. John Wesley and William Carey are two that spring to mind, although their histories were very different. To have a godly wife is the surely the greatest 'natural' blessing imaginable, although the rest of you will just have to put up with second best... the most wonderful woman in the world is making my coffee!

sermonindex Apr 12, 2005

As I said before in a post I think that dating and having an girlfriend is pretty much something that is unbiblical and not really a good route for a Christian. I think the best thing to do is to get to know a person as a friend and seek the Lord together and in groups. As the Lord confirms and speaks to your heart then you go and intiate an courtship which really has its intentions of marriage. Courtship is not an excuse to "fool around" thats not the point of it and probably as I said above hugging, kissing, etc really doesn't even need to be done. The Lord will enable and confirm about marriage and as my hermenutics teacher said there always is not an casting of the lots. If the girl is Christian, you like her, and you are both strong in the Lord and have feeling for each other then that could possibly be your wife. The point is not for personal fulfillment or selfishness but to seek something that is good but compliments our relationship with God.I agree with this 100% ... Krispy

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