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Richard Roberts alleged DUI

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twayneb Jan 25, 2012

Just saw the story. It reminded me of a verse.

For the enemy roams to and fro throughout the earth as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour.

None of us are immune to the temptations and attacks of the enemy. We all need to seek to put in place around us a group of solid and committed brothers and sisters with whom we can enter an intimate and open relationship. We need to speak into the lives of one another and hold one another up.

We should pray for this brother that he be restored.

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DEADn Jan 25, 2012

I saw this on CNN at work recently and I wondered if it was Richard Roberts. The human side of me wants to point the finger but I crucified those thoughts. Not sure what is going on with Richard but I bet he must be going through alot of issues within himself and doesn't know where to turn?

I have often wondered if I ever got so depressed would I ever turn to alcohol or some other alternative to deal with it? I don't care for the taste of alcohol. I can drink a wine cooler but it takes a while. I will take a sip of sangria, if my wife orders one, but that is it. Seeing drunk people is what helps me stay away from the whole alcohol thing.

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MrBillPro Jan 25, 2012

I wonder if sometimes the Lord allows these things to happen. "after all he is still in control" so that we "Christians" might see were all still fallible, and we should not beat ourselves up when we sin, but when we sin come to him. I personally don't know what happened with Richard Roberts, but no one on earth is immune to sin,and sometimes when folks are struggling with sin, it might take something like this to help them turn them around. Just a few thoughts.

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Yeshuasboy Jan 25, 2012

Yes, if it is Richard Owen Roberts, and these allegations are true, do pray for the man and support the brother in all ways of meekness and the love of God as the Spirit leads.

sermonindex Jan 25, 2012

Generally speaking people do not get arrested for DUI the first time they ever drink an alcoholic drink. This could be a sign that he really has a problem, and we should pray for him. Even tho it's always hard when we get exposed, we should be thankful because God exposes us in order to make us more like Him and force us to deal with sin in our lives.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...

Krispy

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ccchhhrrriiisss Jan 25, 2012

Hi Yeshuasboy,

This isn't the same person.

http://tinyurl.com/richardrobertsarrest

The "Richard Roberts" who was arrested for DUI is the son of deceased TV healing/prosperity evangelist Oral Roberts and founder of the defunct "City of Faith." This "Richard Roberts" is the former president of Oral Roberts University and currently hosts a TV show called "The Place for Miracles: Your Hour of Healing."

This person is not related to (or affiliated with) "Richard Owens Robert."

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Yeshuasboy Jan 25, 2012

Thank God for that.
May the Lord help this other man come to true brokenness of spirit that the Lord may fill him.
Thank you Chris for correcting my thoughts.

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MrBillPro Jan 25, 2012

Even tho it's always hard when we get exposed, we should be thankful because God exposes us in order to make us more like Him and force us to deal with sin in our lives.

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone...

Krispy

Amen Brother! Preach on!

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sonsigns Jan 26, 2012

Dear twaynebar,

It is sad to hear about Richard Roberts, this adds another stripe upon Christ's back and could cause some to fall away from the Faith.

The word of God warns us as well as equips the body of Christ against the attacks of the enemy. For this reason more than ever, it is so important that we as individuals in the body of Christ, to seek God and his Kingdom and grow in his grace.

You are right on target when you quoted

"For the enemy roams to and fro throughout the earth as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour".

We need to remember the fight isn't ours it is Christ's alone.

The devil wants to kill, steal and destroy the Body of Christ and really all of man kind which is Gods creation. Sin is sin and our enemy will flaunt our sins in front of the world, if he thinks it will bruise Jesus's heal.

I have personally felt in my spirit, now more than ever, that there is a move of God, happening right now, you and everyone reading this reply, might have felt it as well. A move that requires more of an individual effort and commitment Because of fearing the Lord and holiness is such a big part of this movement.

Jesus said in Luke 12:48, "For unto whomsoever much is given, of him (her, or them) shall much be required", Italics mine.

God is going to require much, much more, of the body of Christ, in these last days. We aren't going to be able to move in the gifts of the spirit and then go out and live like the world. No Way! It is only fitting that Judgement starts in the house of the Lord, firstly.Amen

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sonofthunder Jan 26, 2012

Drinking for the full effect of it - and alcoholism. Getting drunk is what the scriptures highly condemn. ie no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom. Remember dui can mean just a few drinks. you dont have to be necessarily drunk to exceed the limit ...just deemed unfit to drive. Not condoning anything though. Just a few thngs to consider also -

sermonindex Jan 26, 2012

sonofthunder...

I dont know about Down Under, but in the US cops rarely randomly pull someone over to see if they are drunk. Unless he went thru a road block there was something about his driving that tipped off the cops.

It also says he failed the routine tests they gave (walking, speech, etc).

Either way, we need to pray for the man.

Krispy

sermonindex Jan 26, 2012

14For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

"For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.

"If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.

Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not."...........

This statement is from the most spiritual man in the New Testament, Paul the Apostle. He went on to declare himself a wretched man, because of this conflict; Sin manifesting in me. I have it, daily, as does everyone reading this, who is truly born again.

Somehow, in our religious culture, we demand that the PRIEST CLASS, the MINISTRY CLASS "PASTORS"....do not have sin, but dwell in a pristine state of holiness. It is an unwritten commandment, but real. Only the pew class, the "common people", sin...and these must confess their sin to one another.

This idea of ministry has caused more division and destruction to body life, and the body than any other, in my opinion. Richard Roberts is just a brother..but he bit into the apple that he was above that....which turned him into the elite, the Pastor!...the Priest over millions.

In his mind, he could never share his struggles with the common brother or sister; They would lose respect for him. This is rooted in pride, but it is how the Ministry Class MUST respond. If they do not, then everyone will see that they are just like everyone else; barren, needy, and struggling...needing a Savior daily, and needing a Cross daily to deny themselves, and that satanic nature that we are without the cross.

When this inward battle is left unchecked, often the stronghold of the "flesh"..[satanic nature we are..] gains ascendancy...and prevails. There has been a flood of famous preachers exposed lately. They are just men, like you and me. Men fail, and struggle, just like Paul the apostle.

If we were related in the body, I would invite him over for coffee, and give my mercy away to him, as we sought Jesus to cleanse. That day he would be cleansed, get up, and go on. He is just a brother..who fails just like me...

This will probably cause him to be excommunicated by many though.....as he probably has no authentic church that could minister to him.

"And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

"Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much."

This system is broken.

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sonsigns Jan 26, 2012

Besides blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, sin is sin. Roberts was caught drinking while intoxicated according to law, whether it was one drink or three doesn't matter. He was driving his car at a high rate of speed which endangered others on the highway.

If Roberts was caught in adultery would it be any worse?

Roberts endangered his life (which isn't really his life but Gods) he endangered others by being in the state he was in and really he was using his car as a weapon and probably would have been charged if he had been involved in an accident.

I think this brother needs to step down from the pulpit and receive counseling.

Richard will be in my prayers

sermonindex Jan 26, 2012

yep... I agree with you. I dont think anyone who has commented thinks that this should be winked at and he's off the hook.

Krispy

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