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Abraham, My Friend_54

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philologos Jan 25, 2005

Abraham, My FriendThe Making of a Praying Man_54The Child of PromiseThe typology of Isaac does not only relate to the true Son but also to all true sons. Paul, the apostle, refers to Isaac as a ‘child of promise’; Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. (Gal 4:28 KJV) This verse is the last of a series of 10 references to ‘promise’ in the letter to the churches of Galatia. Paul, immediately goes on to say But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. (Gal 4:29 KJV) We have to understand the nature and purpose of the Law to understand the implications of this. We must never slip into the kind of thinking that regards the Law as an enemy; Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. (Gal 3:21 KJV) Paul expands this truth in the letter to the Romans; Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. (Rom 7:12 KJV) and again in his letter to Timothy; But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; (1Ti 1:8 KJV) This last reference takes us to the heart of the problem. In its essential nature the ‘law is good if…’ Almost everything in life ‘is good if…’; an axe, a knife, and more surprising things like anger and hate; they are all ‘good if…’The ‘law is good, if a man use it lawfully’; this is an ‘if-then’ clause. The clear implication is that if it is used for the wrong purpose it is no longer ‘good’ in absolute terms. This had been the problem of the law for the Jewish people; they had not used it ‘lawfully’. That is to say they I had not used it for the purpose for which it was intended. They had used it as a ladder by which they could achieve merit and consequent acceptance with God. It is absolutely true that there are only two ‘faiths’ in the whole of world history; the first says ‘something in my hand I bring’, and the other says ‘nothing in my hand I bring’. The rest of religion is peripheral; the heart of the first ‘faith’ is I can and must do something to contribute to my salvation. The heart of the second ‘faith’ is that I cannot and must not!Again, in Romans, Paul expounds this issue; For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. (Rom 10:2-4 KJV) One definition of the fanatic is someone who doubles his effort when he has forgotten his aim. If we have the wrong destination in mind the doubling of our effort will actually result in us becoming farther away from the right destination. The simple fact of the matter is that the Law was never intended as a route to God. Anyone who uses it to get to God is not using it ‘lawfully’ and the result will be death rather than life. For the Christian in his daily walk the same truth will operate. If I attempt to ‘do’ something to qualify me for acceptance with God I am not using that thing ‘lawfully’ and the result will be, not life, but a death. If I repent in order to gain acceptance with God, I am not using repentance ‘lawfully’ and the result will be death not life. If I attempt to use prayer or bible reading or fasting or any ‘thing’ to gain or improve my acceptance with God it will bring a ‘death’ into my experience of Him. The purpose of these disciplines is not ‘acceptance with God’.Likewise the purpose of ‘doing’ the Law, is not acceptance with God. This ‘doing’ of the Law is sometimes expressed, in the New Testament, as the ‘works of the Law’. What then was the purpose of the law? That is a question which Paul himself asks… and answers. Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made… (Gal 3:19-20a NASB) It was ‘added’ says Paul ‘until’. These two words are vital for a proper understanding of the nature and purpose of the Law; it was additional and it was temporary. The Law then was a temporary expedient with a definite cut-off date.But why was it ‘added’? Because of transgressions. That is to say the focus of the Law was not salvation but sin. It put sin firmly in the spotlight. It made it possible, in a measure, to quantify sin. The Law was never intended as a means of qualification and consequent salvation but as a measure of disqualification and the utter impossibility of ‘achieving’ salvation by personal merit. Again, Romans provides an expansion; What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, "you shall not covet." (Rom 7:7 NASB) It was as a result of the Law that Paul recognised his true condition. Anyone can fool themselves into believing they are fit, until someone sets up a standard for fitness; this was Paul’s personal testimony. So then, the Law is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good. Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful. (Rom 7:12-13 NASB) As a result of the Law ‘sin’ was recognised in its true colours; utterly sinful[i/].There was another function of the Law which was to funnel the people of Israel into only one possible direction. If they adhered to the Law and its provisions it was a one-way street with no turn-offs which must inevitably lead to Christ. If you have ever watched sheep being transported and seen the way the farmer uses fences and gates to determine exactly where the sheep are going. They trot along in their little woolly-headed ignorance and each step leads them closer to the place that the farmer wants them to be. But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. (Gal 3:22-23 NASB) The NASB’s ‘kept in custody’ is not too strong; the word means to be under armed guard!Paul then gives another description to the Law; it was, he says, our Child-Conductor; paidag?gos, i.e. a guardian and guide of boys. Among the Greeks and the Romans the name was applied to trustworthy slaves who were charged with the duty of supervising the life and morals of boys belonging to the better class. The boys were not allowed so much as to step out of the house without them before arriving at the age of manhood. The Message Version has one of its frequent ‘direct hits’ here; The law was like those Greek tutors, with which you are familiar, who escort children to school and protect them from danger or distraction, making sure the children will really get to the place they set out for. (Gal 3:24 MSG) That was the other function of the Law; making sure that the ‘children’ really got to the place they set out for.In these passages Paul frequently uses phrases to divide time; ‘until the Seed should come’, ‘before faith came’, ‘faith which would be revealed later’, ‘faith having come’. He is clearly distinguishing a new era that postdates the era of the Law; these eras are mutually exclusive. There is a clear time-line in his writings at this point. Something has changed. Something ‘was not’ but ‘is now’. The paidag?gos, the superintending function of the Law, was only active up to this point. Up until this point, this was a ‘lawful’ function of the Law, but beyond this point such a function of the Law would be ‘unlawful’. At this point the paidag?gos was redundant; But, faith having come, we are no longer under a tutor; (Gal 3:25 Darby) Throughout this section Paul has constantly used the personal pronoun ‘we’; he is referring to those, like himself, who had been ‘under the Law’. When the Law has done its job of bringing Paul and his Jewish Christian brethren to genuine conviction of sin and to Christ, its work is over. We can see why Paul was so adamant that the Law having been honourably retired could not be re-commissioned in the lives of Gentiles who had already come to Christ; it could have no legitimate, lawful, purpose in their lives.Are the Law and the Promise in conflict with each other? Not if the Law is used ‘lawfully’. An axe and a surgeon’s scalpel are not in competition with each other, unless someone is using one of these tools ‘unlawfully’. Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. (Gal 3:21 KJV) The Law had not been given to ‘give life’ but to ‘describe death’ and to channel men into the only ‘giver of life’. It never was intended to be a ‘life giving’ Law, but was always intended to shut up every other possibility and to direct men to the ‘life giving Saviour’. Did you notice how Paul described Christ in his Galatians explanation of the nature and purpose of the Law? He might have simply said ‘Christ’ or ‘the Lord’ but he wants us to be sure to follow the flow of his thinking so he describes Christ as “the Seed… to whom the promise was made”. (Gal 3:19) Salvation was always to have been as the result of God ‘keeping His promise’, not of man ‘keeping the Law’. Christ is the Promise-Bearer. Of the 10 references to ‘promise’ in Galatians, 8 of them are in the last 16 verses of Chapter 3. If we asked the question ‘but what is the promise’ we could provide many different aspects of the one true answer. The promise is Christ, and He is the Promise Bearer. But how can Christ become real to me? How can I receive the promise? Christ died, according to Paul’s argument here…That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith. (Gal 3:14 KJV)Isaac, of course, was not ‘born of the Spirit’ in his natural birth. Paul is using the ‘type’ of Isaac as one whose life was due to the direct intervention of God. Isaac’s was not a ‘virgin’ birth but it would not have been possible without the workings of God’s ‘life-giving’ Spirit in the bodies of Abraham and Sarah. Nevertheless his birth was a direct result of God keeping His promise and as such he can serve as a type for the ‘Spirit born’. All who have received the Spirit of the Son are ‘children of promise’ as Isaac was. Their beginnings and the whole of their lives are the consequence, not of men keeping Law, but of God keeping His promise. They are the reality of which Isaac was the type. In their live there can be no mutual peaceful co-existence of the era of the Law and the era of the Spirit. If the old era of the Law and the flesh is allowed to survive there will inevitably be a relentless harassing of that which lives in the Spirit.

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RobertW Jan 25, 2005

Hi Bro. Ron,But why was it ‘added’? Because of transgressions. That is to say the focus of the Law was not salvation but sin.Would you say that the transgressions were commited against the law of God written upon their hearts? Otherwise what would they have been transgressing? Where no law is there is no transgression. It seems that the law they were transgressing was that law men and women are born with knowing in a general sense the difference between right and wrong. Could it be that they transgressed their conscience until it was of no effect and God had to set the law in front of their faces again in written form? Almost like they would not acknowledge their sinfulness because their was no written law?

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philologos Jan 25, 2005

Where no law is there is no transgression. It seems that the law they were transgressing was that law men and women are born with knowing in a general sense the difference between right and wrong. Yes, I think so. There has and always has been and always will be some kind of law.Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. (Rom 5:14 KJV)Adam's was not a Sinai-type transgression, but at its heart was the same 'not Thy will, but mine be done' (I have intentionally turned that sentence around to make my point) In one sense the law has never changed; it has always been "thou shalt love...", the Sinai law was a local and specific application of that same basic law, designed to show the state of the heart.

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RobertW Jan 25, 2005

In one sense the law has never changed; it has always been "thou shalt love...", the Sinai law was a local and specific application of that same basic law, designed to show the state of the heart.Do you ever find it profitable to read through the law? What should we glean from those writings?God Bless,-Robert

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philologos Jan 25, 2005

Do you ever find it profitable to read through the law? What should we glean from those writings?Yes, I do, but I am always reading what I call my 'New Old Testament', that is the Old Testament read in the light of the New. What should we glean? God's intolerance for sin; His refusal to compromise; the cost of sin. It is not hard to see the underlying 'heart' of most of the Old Testament legislation.

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RobertW Jan 25, 2005

Do you think there is anything we can glean in terms of our behavior towards God and man?God Bless,-Robert

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philologos Jan 27, 2005

Sorry, Robert, I missed this one.Do you think there is anything we can glean in terms of our behavior towards God and man?I'm note sure I can answer this without starting at Genesis! This is how I seek to read the scriptures in my devotional time. I prepared some introductory notes for students at our Church Life School some years ago. Each student had a scheduled 'devotional time' which included 'devotional bible reading'. The notes included a paragraph...How shall I read my Bible portion?\tSlowly. Prayerfully. Thoughtfully. Keeping in mind, not only the Bible context, but also your own personal context. Has God been speaking to you in your church meeting, or through your contacts with others? Don't look for coincidences but keep the heart open to hear what God's word to you is at this present time. Don't use this time to prepare a topic for preaching later, but with these points mind.As I read this passage is there…?• A truth which speaks to my heart.• An attitude of mine which needs to be changed.• A choice for me to make.• A sin to avoid or confess.• A promise that I can make my own.• A command for me to obey.• A victory or a defeat that I can learn from.• A glimpse of God's character that I can feed on.

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RobertW Jan 27, 2005

Thanks Bro. Ron. A sin to avoid or confess.• A promise that I can make my own.• A command for me to obey.• A victory or a defeat that I can learn from.• A glimpse of God's character that I can feed on.I am reading through the pentateuch in my personal reading time and I keep coming to the passage that states, "you should not seeth a kid in its mothers milk." (paraphrased). I have heard this passage used frequently to show how 'frivoulous' the law supposedly is or one about making a fence around the roof (something like that). Yet, in the first passage I quoted I see a great truth there that carries over into all kinds of areas. Simply put, some things simply should not be done as they are an gross insult and disregard for the party in question. I can't quite articulate what I want to say here. It is just something that agrees with my conscience that would be wrong to do. Its almost like saying, if your going to seeth a kid at least have the decency to not do it in its own mothers milk. It would be like borrowing my neighbors phone to call the police on him. Am I making sense here?

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rookie Jan 27, 2005

Br Robert wrote:Would you say that the transgressions were commited against the law of God written upon their hearts? Otherwise what would they have been transgressing?Ezekiel chapter 20 will answer your question if you are willing to hear. God had made a covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and their decendents after them to be their God. God did not abandon the nation of Israel while they lived in Egypt for 430 years. Instead God made the nation of Israel prosper during that time. The God of Abraham also was the God of the decendents that lived during this period. God's hand was so present that it cause the Egyptians to murder the newborn of Israel for fear of losing control of their land to the people of God. What does Scripture say?Ezek. 20:5 “Say to them, “Thus says the Lord GOD: “On the day when I chose Israel and raised My hand in an oath to the descendants of the house of Jacob, and made Myself known to them in the land of Egypt, I raised My hand in an oath to them, saying, ‘I am the LORD your God.’ 6 On that day I raised My hand in an oath to them, to bring them out of the land of Egypt into a land that I had searched out for them, “flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands. 7 Then I said to them, “Each of you, throw away the abominations which are before his eyes, and do not defile yourselves with the idols of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.’ 8 But they rebelled against Me and would not obey Me. They did not all cast away the abominations which were before their eyes, nor did they forsake the idols of Egypt. Then I said, “I will pour out My fury on them and fulfill My anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt.’ 9 But I acted for My name’s sake, that it should not be profaned before the Gentiles among whom they were, in whose sight I had made Myself known to them, to bring them out of the land of Egypt. Ezek. 20:10 “Therefore I made them go out of the land of Egypt and brought them into the wilderness. 11 And I gave them My statutes and showed them My judgments, “which, if a man does, he shall live by them.’ 12 Moreover I also gave them My Sabbaths, to be a sign between them and Me, that they might know that I am the LORD who sanctifies them. If you meditate on these verses, one will see that God made an oath to protect HIS people. He told them to seperate themselves from all that is unholy. Yet they would not. So what then did God do? Once He brought them out of Egypt He gave them the written law. They disobeyed His voice while they lived in Egypt, just like we disobey His voice today.In ChristJeff

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rookie Feb 1, 2005

Brother Robert,What does Ezekiel 20 teach? Did God have a covenant with those who lived during the 430 years in Egypt and what covenant were they under? What did God ask of His people while they lived under His covenant? In ChristJeff

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philologos Feb 2, 2005

What does Ezekiel 20 teach? Did God have a covenant with those who lived during the 430 years in Egypt and what covenant were they under? What did God ask of His people while they lived under His covenant?Sometimes covenants are sub-sets of other covenants. The whole world, including the people who became 'Israel' were already under Noah's covenant. (Gen 9:8-17The covenant enjoined upon the people in Egypt was 'added for the sake of transgressions until the Seed should come to whom the promise was made'. It was essentialy and I-you covenant. ('you' being plural; it had a corporate application. The Abraham covenant was always an I-thou (a person to person) covenant which required renewal in every generation.Ezekiel 20 was addressed to a remnant of a remnant, and reminds them of the day that God 'chose Israel'. It reminds them that God lifted up His hand (took an oath)to bring them in (Ezek 20:5) and later lifted up his hand (took an oath) that He would not bring them in! (EZek 20:15) He took another oath that He would scatter them among the heathen. (Ezek 20:23)The passage continues in prophecy that God will give the house of Israel a choice for the future. (20:39) 'Israel' must choose, but all that chose to serve Him in the land are now designated 'Israel'. This is an Israel from out of Israel. (20:40) This 'Israel' would experience deep repentance (20:43) But this is the consequence (see also 36:23-38 and esp v31) of regeneration. This is not a general promise exclusive to 'Israel' but to the 'Israel out of Israel', later described by Paul as 'the Israel of God' (Gal 6:16) an Israel which includes all in Christ; For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God. (Gal 6:15-16 KJV)

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rookie Feb 3, 2005

Ezek. 20:5 “Say to them, “Thus says the Lord GOD: “On the day when I chose Israel and raised My hand in an oath to the descendants of the house of Jacob, and made Myself known to them in the land of Egypt, I raised My hand in an oath to them, saying, ‘I am the LORD your God.’ 6 On that day I raised My hand in an oath to them, to bring them out of the land of Egypt into a land that I had searched out for them, “flowing with milk and honey,’ the glory of all lands. 7 Then I said to them, “Each of you, throw away the abominations which are before his eyes, and do not defile yourselves with the idols of Egypt. I am the LORD your God.’ Brother Ron wrote:The Abraham covenant was always an I-thou (a person to person) covenant which required renewal in every generation.In the preceeding verses, God states that He would be their God and He called on “Each of you," to remove all things that is not holy. So I do agree with you that the Abrahamic Covenant is between God and each individual. I also submit that what we see in verses 5 through 7 is the testimony of God establishing His covenant in that generation. In ChristJeff

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philologos Feb 3, 2005

Jeff writes: I also submit that what we see in verses 5 through 7 is the testimony of God establishing His covenant in that generation. It is, clearly. This was the Sinai Covenant; known also as the Old Covenant. Do you mean only that generation? Are you implying that it had to be re-established with succeeding generation?

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rookie Feb 4, 2005

No.I believe verses 5-7 of Ezekiel 20 describe the Abrahamic Covenant that was made to the generation from the time Moses was a baby until he returned 80 later. God made the covenant with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and each generation in their time. So Joseph, in his generation also recieved the Oath that God would be his God. Joseph's sons also recieved the same covenant with in their generation. When does this covenant ever end?In ChristJeff

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philologos Feb 4, 2005

I believe verses 5-7 of Ezekiel 20 describe the Abrahamic Covenant that was made to the generation from the time Moses was a baby until he returned 80 later.I think you are mistaken. These verses have Egypt as their setting; in each of the three verses the word Egypt is repeated. Deliverance from Egypt was never part of the Abraham covenant.This is the covenant referred to in Ezekiel 16 where God addresses it to Jerusalem; v8 declares 'I entered into a covenant with thee'; this was at least 800 years after Sinai and the people of Moses. It was to last for far longer than a generation. In fact, until He should come to whom the promise was made. This covenant lasted the whole age of the Law.

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rookie Feb 7, 2005

God told Abraham:Genesis 15: 13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full. God promised this to Abraham that He would be God to his seed in each of their generations. It is through faith that a remnant has always existed according to grace. The remnant exists through faith. Ezekiel 20:8 But they rebelled against Me and would not obey Me. They did not all cast away the abominations which were before their eyes, nor did they forsake the idols of Egypt. Then I said, “I will pour out My fury on them and fulfill My anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt.’ 9 But I acted for My name’s sake, that it should not be profaned before the Gentiles among whom they were, in whose sight I had made Myself known to them, to bring them out of the land of Egypt. At what time did they rebell according to these Scriptures? Before or after God led them out of Egypt?In ChristJeff

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rookie Feb 7, 2005

Further more, Stephen spoke:Acts 7:8 Then He gave him the covenant of circumcision; and so Abraham begot Isaac and circumcised him on the eighth day; and Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot the twelve patriarchs. What is the covenant of circumcision. Is it part of the Abrahamic covenant? In ChristJeff

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