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sermonindex Jan 26, 2005

Yesterday as I prayed between 3-4 A.M. I offered up to the Lord a couple of things. First, I said that when my current renter moved out...I would offer up my extra bedroom to a Seminary student locally here who has a reputation of getting up at 4 A.M. and praying and needed a place to stay rent FREE to finish his studies. Second, I offered up my house to turn it into a meeting place to hold 4-7 A.M. morning prayer for any who wanted to come in during this time frame and pray with all who are here every morning. The main theme will be Revival throughout the world and praying for lost souls' salvations. This way Jesus will be here...for when 2 or 3 are gathered together....!!!!! I came home last night from work and my current renter told me that he was approved for a house loan and will be out shopping for a place! So it looks like he could be leaving in the 1-3 months and we of course will stay friends and I will continue to pray for his salvation (besides...he is the best renter/roommate I can remember ever having). I was glad to hear his good news and sat and pondered....what is going on Lord?Hopefully God's plan is for both to happen....until we have too many people to fit in this place and we have to move to a bigger place to meet!!! I just wish there was a Church here that had a reputation for being open 24/7 for prayer....now that's an idea to take to Prayer!!First, God motivates me to start praying at 4 A.M. and then starts burdening my heart for the lost souls that no one is praying for. Then He gives me the ideas above and I pray for them. Suddenly, my renter/roommate gives me notice....what's going on Lord?!!? I am starting to think that he is going to grant a Revival!!!Time will tell...love serving God...it is full of the unknown!PJ

sermonindex Jan 30, 2005

Beloved, you can fill a dining hall with "saints" when you conduct a covered dish dinner. But hold a prayer meeting and you may just be alone. This is the age of apostacy, and most are just too busy to pray. Their life is not a prayer. They do now walk in fellowship with God. So if they were to come to a prayer meeting, it would not provide them with the entertainment thier carnal soul so craves. I'm not at all trying to discourage you. Quite the opposite. Keep on, even if it is only you. Just remember, there were only 8 people on the ark. Only 8. How few will be in that number when the Lord comes again? God knows. But it wont' be a crowd. This is the day of apostacy, not revival. Anyone can have a personal revival any time they choose. All they need do is repent. Take their life to the cross and leave it there. Put to death the desires of the flesh, and live 24/7 for God. That is God's desire. When our desire lines up with His desire, then we are in revival. Please pray for me, that I can take such a stand and live such a life. Thank you and God bless you.

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markm Jan 31, 2005

Sure not many will show up initially, but at least those who do show up are genuine. Would you rather start up a prayer meeting with 200 impostors or 2 genuine saints? Which group will hear from heaven? Time will tell. May God bless your mornings PJ. :)

sermonindex Jan 31, 2005

...of course you are right. A while back I ran an early morning prayer meeting online, from 5-6 am. in a chat room. I usually had 5 or 6 from different parts of the world. 5 or 6. We had some real spirit filled meetings and prayers answered. But one by one they just quit coming. Sigh. I would love to see a prayer room live here. I'd even be willing to host it. It's worth the sacrafice to get up that early in the morning and pray.

sermonindex Jan 31, 2005

I followed Prayer4AM's leading and went to prayer twice last week at 4am, and I have never suffered such intense spiritual warfare! :--) whenever the enemy comes at ya like that, you know the Spirit has you doing SOMETHING right. So, I endeavour to keep right at it this week.I like the whole idea, prayer room, paryer at 4am, crazy radical prayer with just a few hard core Spirit filled saints. I pray for you all right now.In Christ, Neil

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PreachParsly Jan 31, 2005

Beloved, you can fill a dining hall with "saints" when you conduct a covered dish dinner. But hold a prayer meeting and you may just be alone. This is the age of apostacy, and most are just too busy to pray. Their life is not a prayer. They do now walk in fellowship with God. So if they were to come to a prayer meeting, it would not provide them with the entertainment thier carnal soul so craves.I'm not at all trying to discourage you. Quite the opposite. Keep on, even if it is only you. Just remember, there were only 8 people on the ark. Only 8. How few will be in that number when the Lord comes again? God knows. But it wont' be a crowd. This is the day of apostacy, not revival. Anyone can have a personal revival any time they choose. All they need do is repent. Take their life to the cross and leave it there. Put to death the desires of the flesh, and live 24/7 for God. That is God's desire. When our desire lines up with His desire, then we are in revival. Please pray for me, that I can take such a stand and live such a life. Thank you and God bless you. Wow that was very negitive. I do understand : 1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; But I also understand: Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: Act 2:18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: You almost act like its impossible for a revival. That the only revival that can happen is within you. Yes i understand thats where is needs to start but i still belive what is said in Acts is not dead and gone.. its still happening (or going to happen). I understand the world will wax worse and worse but that has nothing to do with where the church CAN be. I know its not where is needs to be but you seem so doubtful that revival can even happen.

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rocklife Jan 31, 2005

I just wish there was a Church here that had a reputation for being open 24/7 for prayerWe have the temple open 24/7 already through Jesus Christ. Our body is a temple.Not to nitpick, but we need to remember that even if we aren't in a fancy church building, God always wants to hear from us, and for us to be thinking and loving Him always, in spirit and in action. Another sad fact of church thinking is so often, the building is seen as their private property, not God's. I know of one person escorted by police off "their private property" which says on the outside is a christian church of God. I am so glad we don't need church buildings to talk to God, he hears prayers even in prison.

sermonindex Feb 2, 2005

...but PreachParsly, we have been in the last days since Jesus was here last. His spirit has been poured out. We are now in the era of apostacy. If one does not recognize that, he/she may be a part of it. Jesus said that at His second coming, it would be as in the days of Noah. Beloved, there were only 8 on the Ark. Yes, yes, God can an will do as He chooses. I'm certain that He has things all planned out in ways we never dreamed of, even though we rightly understand in part some of what He has already said about it. Do I desire to see revival? Oh yes, I sure do. I want to see the real thing. Having experienced the manifest presence of God, I so strongly desire more of Him. I will not get what I desire until He is all I seek. Matthew 6:33. To pray for revival indicates to me that someone recognizes that some are in need of reviving. Reviving from what? Finally, revial is God's choosing, not mans. I like what Tommy Tenney once said, "you can no more hold a revival, than you can a hurricane". Selah. I marvel at assemblies who hang out a sign announcing "Revival" on such and such a date. What kind of testimony is that? How do they know that God is going to revive this dead bunch. Are they willing to repent and turn away from the rudiments of this world? I'm sorry if I seemed negative. I hope that what you understood to be negativity is actually grief. Grief over my own personal carnality, and that of those who in mass make up the church today in the USA. I so appreciate your comments. Thanks for sharing. :-o

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crsschk Feb 2, 2005

Thanks LahryFinally, revival is God's choosing, not mans. I like what Tommy Tenney once said, "you can no more hold a revival, than you can a hurricane". Selah. I marvel at assemblies who hang out a sign announcing "Revival" on such and such a date. What kind of testimony is that? How do they know that God is going to revive this dead bunch. Are they willing to repent and turn away from the rudiments of this world?You can be most certainly sure that anything but that will be happening there, seems to me that God would do the 'date setting' without any advanced notice. If I recall correctly most of the advance notice was either in judgment to come or to wait...(Acts) Not out of the realm of possibility, but that smacks of presumption and arrogance or maybe just an over exuberant faith...This is coming out all wrong, what am I trying to say?I guess it still seems that largely the greater numbers are still trying to get God to go along with their program(s) instead of us trying to go along with His. Even the prayers I have found personally often times are so self-centered or misconstrued as to just what prayer is. I am talking about myself here. More and more am finding that I don't even know how to pray..rightly. This came to mind this morning; "If I cannot pray Gods thoughts I would rather not bother."Who's will is it that we are pursuing?What is revival but that we come into agreement with what the Lord is doing, personally as well as corporately?I too understand your grief, but I also believe there is a 'revival' going on right now. It's not advertised, it's small and spread out all over the place, in quiet rooms and even churches with walls and those without, like I experienced this past weekend with a brother preaching to the blessed saints who are homeless. Not dramatic, not with giant 'signs and wonders', but with seemingly 'small' little miracles like heart conversion, sad that gets such little attention isn't it?We have even out of our own number here street preachers, who are doing under the radar type work that is bold, courageous, who to the eye's I am sure of many in the world of Christendom would think is producing little, but I will gander an opinion that it is doing much. We have become such an instant-cup-of-soup generation, that unless it is loud and over the top and happens within our little half hour attention span it's assumed worthless.No sir, I may be a fool, but from what I have observed just from the likes of our 'own' here and with that their hearts and the sharing that comes forth out that, the rumblings you hear in other parts of the world, the reports of persecution... the desire for Truth in the inward parts...It may not be advertised, it may just be 'The silent revival', simmering and who knows if it will turn to a boil. But maybe it doesn't need to. Knowing the way things tend to go anymore, it might be the worst thing that could happen, a big 'production' in the eyes of the world and then 'poof' it's over, business as usual, just a bunch of emotionalism... what's next?Said this before, I don't know what is going on, but something is definitely happening.

sermonindex Feb 3, 2005

This house shall be empty soon of everyone but me!!! My roommate said for sure .... one way or another he plans on being on his own by February 9th give or take a few days. My Sister called 1/2 hour after my roommate's good news about the house he put a bid on being accepted...she has found a home to move in (her current one was condemned), employment finally (been unemployed and looking hard for several months...she's mentally challenged) and will be able to stay in the neighbor where her grown children live (I had offered her my home if she needed a place to live and paying the bills she asked helped on paying). My roommate was surprised (I would even say shocked) when I offered to help with the down payment on his new home if he needed it....I told him....it's only my burial fund....but now one way or another God will make sure I am taken care of even in proper burial (hopefully a Pine Wood box and dropped in the ground with no services). Then at the same time frame Comcast Cable sent me my new Cable bill....I was shocked....so I discussed it with my roommate and told him I would be removing everything off the TV when he moves (since he watches it and does pay rent). Shopping for Rabbit Ears for the TV so in case I need the weather one day. There is no way I am going to spend $52.00 plus dollars on TV a month. I barely watch the thing...and it's not worth that kind of money and it's not worth $15.00 for their lowest quote. Soon the Christmas gift TV will be moved into storage and out of my living room. The dog gone thing is huge and yes it was a nice gift and watching the Passion of Christ on it was unbelievable....and it will be a great thing to use to watch other Spiritual Videos like Brother Sun, Sister Moon or The Hiding Place....Now....I will definitely wait on the Lord to see if this place is too stay empty. Most of the furniture goes (I like life simple and without stuff) so now I need to find folding chairs!!! I remember Dawson Trotman of the Navigators in the book Daws ... it talked of the discouragement he went through with people coming and fading away while he would continue to pray outdoors in all kinds of weather. Any ideas on how to get the news out of the 4-7 A.M. Prayer Meetings that will be held here 7 days a week? Praying for Revival throughout the world and the prayer request for our lost loved ones' salvations.PJ

sermonindex Feb 5, 2005

Well, Prayer4am, may I suggest that you not pray at 4 am. What? That's right. Jesus said, "If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me". Why not worhsip from 4am till whenever and see what happens. Go to the highways and biways and bid them to come in and worship. God's love goes beyond our needs, beloved. If He did not spare His only Son, what would He withhold from those who will worship Him? Mike, Praise the Lord. I would that you were close to Louisiana so I could visit you now and then, and we could grieve over our weaknesses together, and worship over His mercy and grace. Glory be to God, now and forevermore, amen.

sermonindex Feb 5, 2005

You may suggest all you want that I not pray at 4 A.M. The Devil himself has suggested it...even tried his best to put me back to sleep. My best friend suggests all the time. I hear the suggestions and know it is like Peter was to Jesus at times...get behind me Satan.I would no soon disobey God and what he has told me to do. I used to fight God....it's not a fight I choose to do anymore. I gladly obey and for the first time in my life I am happy!May I suggest to you .... stop being so in the world and in yourself and spend more time with God in prayer for others. We have enough Churches and Ministers who do not pray and do not have life that God wants to give out. Dr. Cho prays and look what has happened to his Church that he ministers to....and the Mountain that is known as "The Prayer Mountain" in Korea! Jesus was known to Pray and pray a lot before his work....and then he followed God and did his bidding....he then went out.....As a diamond is used to sharpen another diamond....I just loved reading your suggestion....it makes me realize how much God loves me! Don't you love being used by God even when you don't know it!!! God is Good!!!PJ

sermonindex Feb 5, 2005

I'm sorry, you seem to have took what I said the wrong way beloved. I'm so thrilled to know you and know that you pray so earnestly. Please include me in your prayers.What I was trying to aritculate, but failed miserably is that often times, time spent in private worship, praise, and thanksgiving get's more accomplished that just hitting on God with a list. Of course I've never heard you pray and have no basis or ability to qualify your prayers. I thank God that you are praying and also encouraging others, especially me, to pray even more. But if people refuse to pray, then they have no ministry. Praying has to be two way to be effective. God has to have time to speak to us as well. It is in hearing His voice that we get our marching orders and He defines our walk after the Spirit. Again, I'm so sorry I offended you. That was not my heart. You are such a blessing. Please forgive me.

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crsschk Feb 5, 2005

Ah...What could ever drag me away from being amongst the saints! We are such a mixed up collection of misfits, peculiar people indeed!And you just got to love it...The struggles of word-smiths or wannabes. Comforting to know that we are not alone in semi-failed attempts at giving expression by stringing together individual letters into some kind of cohesive whole.But the hearts shine through, the humility, the forgiveness, the want of taking and giving of correction, so that we might thereby grow into that glorious image that was promised. It's showing, in various ways, telling in what isn't often said.May I suggest to you .... stop being so in the world and in yourself and spend more time with God in prayer for others. We have enough Churches and Ministers who do not pray and do not have life that God wants to give out. Dr. Cho prays and look what has happened to his Church that he ministers to....and the Mountain that is known as "The Prayer Mountain" in Korea! Jesus was known to Pray and pray a lot before his work....and then he followed God and did his bidding....he then went out.....No reason to get snippy brother and sense that the intention may not have came out the way Lahry wanted it to as he stated. But also need to point out that I would urge you to look into Dr. Cho, am not totally up on everything that he espouses but have heard him speak in my old church and there are some very extra-biblical teachings, the whole "Fourth Dimension" and what not. Look into and draw your own conclusions, but this is not someone I would suggest you sit under. Be a good Berean and "see if these things are so"Having the worlds largest church does not necessitate the blessing of the Lord. Just a reading of The Revelation of Jesus Christ and to His displeasure with 6 of the 7 churches serving as a reminder.A couple of related links:http://www.cephasministry.com/paul_yonggi_cho.htmlhttp://www.apologeticsindex.org/c17.htmlThis is dangerous stuff brother, perhaps I am not being forceful enough after reviewing this again.Lahry,Thanks for being here brother. You are bringing much to us all. Appreciate your heart and love for the saints and knowing that you have been around this internet block more than a few times shows. Would love to come visit where you are, in fact would love to just go and visit all the 'churches' all over the world, not necessarily the 'buildings' but the temples, where the Holy Spirit dwells! (Hey, am I in the 'house/church thread?...no, I guess not, but that does seem to apply)A tour of the 'SI-ites'!, uh,oh..sense that cult word sneaking about ;-)

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crsschk Feb 5, 2005

By the way..I remember Dawson Trotman of the Navigators in the book Daws ... it talked of the discouragement he went through with people coming and fading away while he would continue to pray outdoors in all kinds of weather. Think that would be to be expected PJ. Recall that a revival once sparked from only two ladies given over to intercession. Any ideas on how to get the news out of the 4-7 A.M. Prayer Meetings that will be held here 7 days a week? Praying for Revival throughout the world and the prayer request for our lost loved ones' salvations.You may have part of the answer from your own words there; "Wait on the Lord". Seems simplistic, but the Lord sees your desire brother and think it is a mighty noble thing you are after here. Just want to encourage you PJ, there may be only one or there may be many so either way don't be discouraged. If I was in your neighborhood I would be right there with you, Lord willing and on that note if this is the Lords will for you got a feeling He will make a way for them to come and join you.

sermonindex Feb 5, 2005

I did not take it wrong....we were just chatting on here. And I was not offended in the least bit. I see my typing after only 1 cup of coffee so early could of used some re-thinking before typing. It was suppose to be light hearted reading for you.Did it wake you up?PJ

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crsschk Feb 5, 2005

"sounded" snippy to me brother and no, very well relaxed thank you...now I am sounding 'snippy' ;-) "Barbed" comes to mind, should know well enough, have gone fishing quite early in the morning before the coffee has kicked in as well here...Hope this doesn't turn into a coffee thread now :-)

sermonindex Feb 5, 2005

Recall that a revival once sparked from only two ladies given over to intercession. Mikey, you're talking about the two elderly half blind saints in the Hebrides Islands?yes?if so, I LOVE that story, in fact I love reading or hearing EVERYTHING about the Hebrides Revival.know why?.....coz it's this far off corner of the world, rural, windswept, LONELY place.Some of my favorite passages in the Bible, are detailing where Jesus went off to a LONELY place to pray.lonely....wilderness places, the other side of the Jordan, it always seems like the places where the spirit is nurtured and filled with the Spirit, are quiet lonely wilderness places....You know what might be a nice place to hike into to seek the Face and the Will of the Lord?the Ventana wilderness...right opposite of Big Sur.the Hebrew word for wilderness or desert is midbar, its also the title for Numbers be midbar .."In the Desert"....do you know what the Title for Deuteronomy is? in Hebrew?"elleh Ha de'barrim"..."These are the Words".I didnt write that to swing my knowledge about, but to say that, when you voice those words, there's Power there...you can feel it, its supernatural and God-breathed;"elleh ha De-barrim"Isnt Jesus wonderful?Back to the two elderly saints, its shows us that a guy (or girl)shut up in his prayer closet for one hour can change the world. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!!!!!GLORY!

sermonindex Feb 5, 2005

Peggy & Christine Smith: They Prayed A Promise In a small cottage by the roadside in the village of Barvas lived two elderly women, Peggy and Christine Smith. They were eighty-four and eighty-two years old. Peggy was blind and her sister almost bent double with arthritis. Unable to attend public worship, their humble cottage became a sanctuary where they met with God. To them came the promise: "I will pour water upon him that is thirsty and floods upon the dry ground," they pleaded this day and night in prayer. One night Peggy had a revelation, revival was coming and the church of her fathers would be crowded again with young people! She sent for the minister, the Rev. James Murray MacKay, and told him what God had shown her, asking him to call his elders and deacons together for special times of waiting upon God. In the same district a group of men praying in a barn experienced a foretaste of coming blessing. One night as they waited upon God a young deacon rose and read part of the twenty-fourth Psalm: "Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? Or who shall stand in His holy place? He that hath clean hands and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully. He shall receive the blessing from the Lord." Turning to the others he said: "Brethren, it seems to me just so much humbug to be waiting and praying as we are, if we ourselves are not rightly related to God." Then lifting his hands toward heaven he cried: "Oh God, are my hands clean? Is my heart pure?" He got no further, but fell prostrate to the floor. An awareness of God filled the barn and a stream of supernatural power was let lose in their lives. They had moved into a new sphere of God realization, believing implicitly in the promise of revival. But before leaving Peggy and her sister, another story must be told which further illustrates the holy intimacy of this woman with her Lord. When the movement was at its height Peggy sent for Duncan, asking him to go to a small, isolated village to hold a meeting. The people of this village did not favor the revival and had already made clear their policy of noninvolvement. Duncan explained the situation to Peggy and told her that he questioned the wisdom of her request. "Besides," he added, "I have no leadings to go to that place." She turned in the direction of his voice, her sightless eyes seemed to penetrate his soul. "Mr. Campbell, if you were living as near to God as you ought to be, He would reveal His secrets to you also." Duncan felt like a subordinate being reprimanded for defying his general. He humbly accepted the rebuke as from the Lord, and asked if he and Mr. MacKay could spend the morning in prayer with them. She agreed, and later as they knelt together in the cottage, Peggy prayed: "Lord, You remember what You told me this morning, that in this village You are going to save seven men who will become pillars in the church of my fathers. Lord, I have given Your message to Mr. Campbell and it seems he is not prepared to receive it. Oh Lord, give him wisdom, because he badly needs it!" "All right, Peggy, I'll go to the village," said Duncan when they had finished praying. She replied, "You'd better!" "And God will give you a congregation." Arriving in the village at seven o'clock they found a large bungalow crowded to capacity with many assembled outside. Duncan gave out his text: "The times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commandeth all men everywhere to repent." When he had finished preaching, a minister beckoned him to the end of the house to speak again to a number of people who were mourning over their sins - among them, Peggy's seven men!

sermonindex Feb 6, 2005

Good Morning.This was a blessing to read! I have seen God's faithfulness and power when in Boot Camp as the religious petty officer the company commanders had me pray each night for the weather they needed for the next day. I would pray out loud as soon as the lights went out. They the next morning we all listened to the weather and uniform of the day announcement. Every day they annouced the exact weather and uniform of the day for many weeks that the commanders asked me to pray for. The very last night the request was put in so that we would wear our rain coats the next day because the barracks were being inspected. Rain coats usually cost the commanders a lot of grief since they were rarely folded correctly and they did not want to spend their time to ensure that all of our's were perfect. I prayed as usual that night. The next morning though it looked stormy like, the announcement did not include wearing rain coats. The commander looked up to me as he was helping the guy who slept below me ensure his rain coat was folded correctly. He said, "Well I guess there isn't a God after all." Five minutes later roughly, they called over the P.A., "Uniform of the day is amended. Wear Rain Coats. Wear Rain Coats." I looked at the commander and he was white as a ghost and said to him, "Hmmm, I guess there is a God after all." He did not talk to me the last couple of days that we were there.One of the guys from Boot Camp met up with me several weeks after our time together in Chicago in school. He said to me, that he was impressed how God listened to me. I said that God listens to everyone who prays and is walking with him. Though my life was not through it's rebellious stage yet....I never forgot what the Lord did. It's one of the factors that brought me back to serve him permantly. The power of prayer...the faithfulness of God.PJ

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