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MichaelLiao Mar 17, 2012

Dear Brethren,

I just want to ask about true repentance as opposed to false repentance. I've been reading some articles on true repentance and they explain the motives of why we repent. Many times I read these articles and I get convicted. I wished my motives were a lot more pure in repenting, but it seems at times it is repentance out of consequence, and not an abhorrence to sin. I've read about repentance being God-centred and not man-centred, and all these things are true, but it seems hard to pull it off. Sometimes my willingness to repent is weak due to much fear overtaking me. I ask for your prayers but also please reply to this one question:

How is true repentance performed?

In Christ,

- Michael Liao

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MichaelLiao Mar 17, 2012

http://www.gospeltruth.net/1836LTPC/ltpc09_tandf_repentance.htm

http://www.ccwonline.org/repent.html

Here are some of the articles on repentance I've read.

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hulsey Mar 17, 2012

Here is a post from 2010. Joyful_Heart posted an article by David Wilkerson called It Began With Repentance. It's a worthy read.

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=36624&forum=45&2

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Sree Mar 17, 2012

To show you true repentance I have to show you the false one.
John Chapter 8 shows us the Pharisees who went to stone the adulterous women. When Jesus showed them their sinful life they put the stone down and turned away from stoning her. If repentance is only turning away from our actions and to accept that we are sinners then the Pharisees have done it there. I would believe that even they felt sorry for their sinful life. But something was missing there because if the Pharisees truly repented there then they won't have crucified Jesus. The only thing missing was that they turned back to their own life thinking that they can live Sinless life by their own effort. This is a lie that our flesh tells us to have confidence in him. Instead if the Pharisees had fallen on the feet of Jesus asking him to save them from their sinful life then Jesus would have given them the spring of living water that will save them.

Even in my life many times I felt sorry for sinning against God and cried out loud but what I did after that will only show whether they were true tears or crocodile tears. If they were true then I would cling to Jesus and will ask his spirit to guide me saying I have no confidence in Flesh. If it was false then I would have walked back like Pharisees thinking that I can live a sinless life myself.

God showed me this and it really helped me to repent and cling to Jesus. I pray that this truth will work for you too.

In short Repentance is to,
1. Hate our sins
2. Turn back from them like how the Prodigal son turned from Pigs food.
3. Walk towards Jesus like how the Prodigal son walked towards his father.

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passerby Mar 18, 2012

I was an ordinary sinner until sometime when my brother invited me to a sunday service at their campus fellowship.

There a missionary was preaching the gospel and there I met Jesus, I guess as savior and Lord.

After the service it seemed like an ordinary day, but something has really changed in my heart, their was that drive to turn away from sinning, to pray, to read the bible, to depend on God for my life.

As if God became someone close to me, I fear Him yet I am comfortable with Him as if He wanted me to depend on Him like a father.

If that is repentance, I realize that it is an ongoing process, it is polished over and over again, being so painful, very challenging, and disheartening at times.

As I recollect, repentance started that day when I put my trust in Jesus as a result of new birth. It is not perfect yet, but when I am so discouraged about it all, about myself, there in my heart it echoes " my grace is sufficient for you".

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brothagary Mar 18, 2012

true repentance is a supanatural gift from god

the bible talks about only god grants repentance

in comes by true spirtual conviction
when he comes the spirit of truth,he will convictd the world of sin ,rightesness and judment

i think in repentance will carrie a strong conviction of sin ,and a hatred for sin ,a cry as the prophert cryed ,i am a man of unclean lips and i dwell in the midts of an unclean people ,, it will produce a scence that only jesus is righeousand holy ,and absaultly pure and will convict of a scence of impending judment upon the world ,and us unless we turn to god
sin
righeousness
judgment

and will produces ,fruits of the spirit , or fruits of repentance ,,,,,a changed life

i believe somtimes this is a striking expereance
and in others a more gradual reality

false repentence will not do these things

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jimp Mar 18, 2012

hi,sin ful man can not repent from sin for if he could he would not need a redeemer. what he does is turns his life from self rule to Jesus rule. this is what we mean when we say ask for Jesus to come and be our Lord. altars are made for sacrifices,so when you go to the altar,you go to die.God births you as a new creation only after the old is dead to self and then becomes alive to God.jimp

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Sree Mar 18, 2012


hi,sin ful man can not repent from sin for if he could he would not need a redeemer.

A Christian Repentance is the process of turning back to redeemer from his sinful life with a Change of Heart. The meaning of Repentance itself is to turn back. You do not need a redeemer to turn back. Many drug addicts turn back from their addiction without any Jesus. A true disciple is one who understands that he is so weak that he needs a savior so that he does not fall again after repentance. This is salvation that the Savior protects you from falling.
Without repentance no one can be born again. This is very first message of New Covenant and sad that people are still struggling to understand this truth.

No groom will be ready to even accept a bride who is unwilling to leave her ex-boyfriend. If the bride says I will be with you 6 days a week but just 1 day I will spend with my ex every week, then no Groom will be willing to accept her.

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jimp Mar 18, 2012

sree, a groom loves a bride that gives her entire life to him to honor him. it is not about sin, it is about who are you serving...who are you dedicated to.who is your LOrd? is it yourself or Jesus?jimp

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brothagary Mar 18, 2012

i think true repentence is not done by the unbelieveing mind ,,but in faith ,tho it may start out small and the faith it is married too might be small

it seems to be a two fold experance ...turning from sin in faith and toward god in faith

and a person must experance something of regenration to be able to do this ,,weather it be the birth of regenration ,or a type of preveinal grace that draws a man into repentance ,,,,,,,it cant be done with out regenerating grace ,,and if it could be done apart from gods supatatural power ,then man doesnt need god to save him

no man can come to me unless my father draw him

jesus spoke those words to those who were dead in sins

all of salvation is of the lord ,from the beginning to the end ,,,,,,man as dead in sins cant cause his carnal mind to recieve the desire to do a spirtaul thing like repent and believe ,,,unless god changes him ,and as the bible says grants him a messure of faith

man in no ways can grant him self the ability to repent and believe,,,,,,but he can recieve

all the glory and thanks be to our god who saves

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Sree Mar 18, 2012

sree, a groom loves a bride that gives her entire life to him to honor him. it is not about sin, it is about who are you serving...who are you dedicated to.who is your LOrd? is it yourself or Jesus?

Who a person is serving is based on whether there is Sin in his life or not. According to the words of Jesus,

John 8:34 :- Truly, truly, I say to you, everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin.

Jesus also said that a slave cannot serve 2 masters. So how is that a man with un-confessed and un-repented sin can serve God when he is already a slave to sin? He cannot, he is deceiving him self. God is not deceived.

It is regarding these people that Jesus talked about in Matthew 7-22, where he said "DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS". They were thinking that they are serving God by their actions but Jesus said I do not know you. I am sure these people did some service otherwise no one can say a lie to Jesus on that day or mock at him.

Am not here to teach nor to correct anyone who is believing in unscriptural doctrines, but spreading such unscriptural stuff and there by causing little ones to stumble is a greater sin.

sermonindex Mar 18, 2012

Please Check this out.

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=42547&forum=36&2

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jimp Mar 18, 2012

hi, over 50 years ago i asked my father what love was and he told me it was being able to clean urine and defication off of someone for years with joy and not regreting a moment. when you are not sinning the emphases is on you but when you serve the emphases is on He Whom you serve. these are not my sheep because I was hungry and they fed me not....and not of your self so that you can boast...your best is like filthy rags...jimp

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passerby Mar 18, 2012

I rather actually repent than know profoundly the definition of repentance thereof.

When I was converted I am almost completely theologically ignorant except that I heard and realize John 3:16, and if my memory serves me right, Romans 3:26.

My concept of sin was so rudimentary then, but early on I have this sense of drifting towards holiness, christian perfection, of dying to the world and to myself, on to serving God and loving my neighbors. The direction of my life is just so different from my former thoughts and aspirations.

I guess it really started when I trusted Jesus for my life.

No, I am not going to promote easy-believism, my point is, as 'Brothagary' implied, true repentance that goes on with our salvation, is a work of God. Without Him we are, but just chasing the wind.

Nor_ that I am going to promote antinomianism. The scripture says God will put the law into our mind and write it on hearts (Jer 31:33). I guess they are the same law that He gave to Abraham, to Moses, to David, and to His Apostles, but now, their is much enlightenment, much grace, empowerment, and charity.

Christians are not meant to live wantonly, "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity" (2 Tim 2:19).


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Christinyou Mar 20, 2012

What is the only sin needed to be repented of for salvation.

Unbelief.

The rest comes from Holy Spirit conviction and the Spirit of Christ in us through sanctification.

John 16:7-15 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

In Christ: Phillip

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jimp Mar 20, 2012

dear philip, wonderful post... i have known many a person who were hooked on this that or theother and got off of (repented from )their sin and habits through shear will power or step programs. unless they turn their lives over to Christ they remain lost as kooter brown. you must believe on Jesus and into Jesus and yield your life to Him.He already conquered sin for you at the cross.you emphases on sin amazes me. He is the way... He is the door ...He is the life... it is the turning your life aver to Him that you gain access to His kingdom. He is the narrow gate and life in Him is the only path that leads to His rewards.jimp my message to philip ended with post.

sermonindex Mar 20, 2012

The statement, "All our righteousness is like filthy rags" has been wrongly taken out of context by many.


The first chapter of Isaiah clarifies the reason for rejecting as filthy rags the righteousness of the people in Judah and Jerusalem. Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken Yahweh, they have provoked the Holy One of Israel unto anger, they are gone away backward. Isaiah 1:4


They are likened to Sodom and Gomorrah (Isa 1:10-11). Yet they offered many sacrifices and prayers (How the faithful city has become a harlot, she who was full of justice! Righteousness once lodged in her" (Isa 1:21)


Whilst they continued to worship, they also continued to do much evil. Yahweh repudiated their false righteousness as filthy rags —or as he puts it in another metaphor here, "Your silver has become dross" (Isa 1:22).


We must understand that hypocrites who pretend to worship Yahweh while deliberately practicing evil, thinking they can fool him, are the ones whose righteousness is like filthy rags. Their righteousness is soiled by their own unrepented sins.


Hence, when Isaiah says, "All our righteousness is like filthy rags" he is speaking on behalf of the nation, an apostate people in decline —not on behalf of those who who turn to the Creator for salvation and seek to follow his righteousness (Isa 45:22-25, Isa 55:6-12).


In conclusion, If I'm a habitual womanizer trying to quit my addiction, and turn to practicing righteousness; but I'm confronted with this message --that my efforts are like "filthy rags" why should I quit my sinful habit? after all my efforts are like filthy rags before Yahweh.

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Christinyou Mar 20, 2012

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"""dear philip, wonderful post... i have known many a person who were hooked on this that or theother and got off of (repented from )their sin and habits through shear will power or step programs. unless they turn their lives over to Christ they remain lost as kooter brown. you must believe on Jesus and into Jesus and yield your life to Him.He already conquered sin for you at the cross.you emphases on sin amazes me. He is the way... He is the door ...He is the life... it is the turning your life aver to Him that you gain access to His kingdom. He is the narrow gate and life in Him is the only path that leads to His rewards.jimp my message to philip ended with post."""

Is this not what true sanctification is all about, The Christ in us coming forth through us as us?

Colossians 1:27-29 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus: Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

Througt Him, by Him, in Him and Him in us is the only thing that changes dirty rags to white robes of righteousness, me being sanctified through His righteousness in me. That is my labour, striving according to His working, which worketh in me mightily.


In Christ: Phillip

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wijnand Mar 20, 2012

Repentance is to turn from you're sin. If there is an hatred in you're heart, you desire to be free, then turn you're back to them and run from them (= Repentance) and look to Christ (= Faith).

If you don't have a desire to be free from sin, then go to Christ for a new heart, for a change.

Seek His face until you have found Him! Give you're live to Him in surrender.

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jimp Mar 20, 2012

hi, when one gives his life over to Jesus and away from self rule,he then automatically is turning away from sin and the source of sin. in 25 years of hearing confessions, an ex priest said that noone ever confessed to covetting. this is the beginning of all sin and it is egoscentric.th man in the mirror is your enemy and your problem and needs to placed in Jesus as a yielded sacrifice to be saved. john 3:16 says that whosoever believes into(eis greek)Him shall have eternal zoe life.jimp

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