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I am a mess and I need Jesus: A billion miles away from God

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deltadom Mar 17, 2012

John 6:37 KJV
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.

What do you do if you feel a billion miles away from god and you repent. Have you ever felt that you have so many situations that your life is beyond repair and so is the world.

What do you do other than spend hours in prayer when you feel millions of miles from the Lord.
Sometimes I feel so overwhelmed by the events and things happening and I wonder whether that God is answering and asking God whether I have sinned in the past. It seems with the world my stamina in prayer has decreased.

I so long for prayer that can change parliament like John Knox or Elijah or can save sinners.
Sometimes like david I feel overwhelmed and there are many enemies around me and sin.

Have u had any examples where your prayers have changed things in parliament or someone in the persecuted church?
Has anyone found it increasingly hard to pray with the flood of events in the world?
Is anyone scared of the heresies that you may full into ?
How many people have outward lives that look good but inside a mess?
How many people would admit they are a mess before people in church?
Do we practise what we preach in pulpits?
Do any you of long for longer times with God but do not have the physical energy or your heart is so broken that you find it hard to pray?

sermonindex Mar 17, 2012

(quote)"How many people would admit they are a mess before people in church?
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Do any you of long for longer times with God but do not have the physical energy or your heart is so broken that you find it hard to pray?"(/quote)

did you read my journal?? i wish i had wisdom brother, but we just attended a huge blessing of a conference, after being out of a regular fellowship for 1.5 yrs., and i left feeling overwhelmingly defeated instead of on fire. i cried off/on the 5 hour drive home.

i look forward to wisdom shared in this thread, and prayers.

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Sidewalk Mar 17, 2012

The reason you can feel a billion miles from God one minute and the loving warmth of His intimate presence the next is because He is not far off. Sin separates us from God and each other, repentant love pulls us back together.

Feelings themselves are so unreliable. Fatigue, blood sugar levels, caffeine- and a host of other stresses will move your feelings all over the map. Committing yourself to the doing of righteousness will overpower the feelings and replace that merry-go-round with joy.

Not to be confused with happiness, joy is the knowledge that you are loved and that Jesus is pleased with you. Way better than feelings, joy gives you both the energy and desire to do things pleasing to Him.

Suddenly there is no billion mile gap.

And the effectual fervent prayer of you the righteous man will avail much!

sermonindex Mar 17, 2012

Sometimes I feel so overwhelmed by the events and things happening and I wonder whether that God is answering and asking God whether I have sinned in the past. It seems with the world my stamina in prayer has decreased.
My brother you and I and everyone else have been duped by religious men.

Yes, we've been told that we need to do many things to live this Christian life and we simply cannot.

What if I told you that God would like for you to just be yourself with Him? As if being yourself when you go to the grocery store, or being yourself when you sit down with your family to eat?

We act one way when we are supposedly in God's presence and another way when we deal with the world. We've been conditioned, so that when our expectation fails we feel alone and distraught. Then we turn to something else that makes us feel happy. If we were already just being normal with God in the first place by including Him in everything that we do and not being someone else when we are with Him in Church or doing "churchy" stuff, we wouldn't have to turn to something else to make us feel happy.

God is not a billion miles away, but our expectation of Him is. Our perception of this walk is a billion miles away.

God came to Adam at the cool of the day, once a day God came to him to fellowship. Today we don't have that cool of the day in which God shows up, we have Him 24/7 living in us day by day. I pray to Him when I go to the grocery store, when I go to the loo, when I am doing the dishes or working on my bike. He is constantly there. We've been conditioned to pray a certain time of the day to give Him "our time". All the time is His time because He is in us all the time.

The best thing to do brother is to turn off the news network. Back in the day when they didn't have the News Media, nobody got word about a catastrophe for several months depending on where they were. So it's not important that you know whats going on in the world. Many a man has shut himself away in a cave or a closet closed his ears to what the world is saying only to want to hear what the Spirit of the Lord is saying. Your not obligated to know what the world is vomiting out.

When praying for someone that you care for and your tearing down principalities and powers it takes a lot of dedication and determination to persevere, but you have to want it.

When your in doubt stop praying. Yes you heard me. Stop. You need to find out what you want from God. Once you know what you want, nothing will stop you from obtaining it. Then proceed to pray again and don't stop praying until you've obtained what your seeking. Your going to find roadblocks but they are set up there for your learning. They are set there by God to see what you are going to do with them. Are you going to run through a troop and leap over the wall, or sit down and wallow in your unbelief?

You have to know what you want. That is most important. Once you know, you'll be unstoppable.

As for heresies, you'll be surprised of what wrong teachings that we have embraced thinking that they are sound doctrine. I wouldn't worry too much about it, because when you pray prayers like, "teach me your ways Lord", or "search me Lord and see if they be any wicked way in me", if your willing He will show you those "ways" that are in you that are not His ways and again I say, if your willing (because many are not) He will remove it by giving you truth, and receiving truth is like swallowing an elephant pill. The other will fall away.

I think what your worried about the most D'Dom is being ready. You look at the world, you look at the state of the Church and you look at yourself and hope is slipping away, you feel despair and wonder if you'll make it.

Let me take you back to a world after Christ died and was resurrected. We see those days as Days of Glory and yet there was fear. Those disciples had just lost their only voice that had protected them from the angry world around them to a cloud.

They had to be careful how they went out in public lest they be nabbed by anyone that might have seen them with Jesus. The Roman world with it's grip in the region was very raw, the occupation being long and both Jew and Roman were very much at war with each other and the disciples was just another bag of problems to the Jews that they had to deal with if they were to be trouble.

Yes, Jesus was taken away and promises were given, but a few days of Him being gone, the fear would have settled back in as to what they planned to do next. They were told to stay in Jerusalem, that alone was tricky but they obeyed the command. When the day came that God came into that upper room, they came out changed men. With boldness and one accord, Peter preached a sermon. Before he was denying His Lord now he is preaching to thousands and having no fear of what could possibly happen next.

D'Dom, We need to be filled with the Holy Spirit, we need to walk out as changed men. Paul commands that we be filled all the time. We cannot walk in our own strength and expect things to continue on the way they are, we need His strength to overcome.

Long hours in prayer is a calling. Not everyone has that calling. The Apostles had that calling, other men and women as well down through the ages. But for the man who is married, it's a little bit more complicated. When your one flesh you can't just do what you want to, you have to ask one another for time to be alone. She or you may have a need to talk about some things and you want to pray but she needs to talk, you have to give her your time to have the talk and then you can pray. If you reverse it and press on to pray, your going to have trouble in the home. In order to put God first you have to love your wife.

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jimp Mar 17, 2012

hi,you certainly have fallen into believing lies and things that do not concern you. God raises up and pulls down kingdoms.God is the head of the church.in john 3:16 we see a misstranslation of a small word that shows the closeness we have with Christ...for whosoever believs into Him(gr.eis=into not in or on)we are in Christ and He is in us.my oldest son and his wife were married in a rc church and became very active in rc churches wherever they moved...i have been praying for he and his wife and their 3 children and my 2 great grandchildren to be saved for years this year they told me that all were saved and filled with the Spirit and are working to evangelize those in the rc church.God id in control and all you need to worry about is your enemy, the man in the mirror.jimp His grace is sufficientfor thee.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Mar 18, 2012

Hi deltadom,

Dear brother, you can never be "a billion miles away from God."

The Lord is near you no matter where you go and no matter how far you feel from Him.

Our God is the only true Living God. He is omnipotent and omniscient. He sees you and knows you even better than you know yourself. And, as much as He knows you, He loves you, brother.

God is not confined to how we feel about ourselves. While we were yet sinners -- He came to this Earth to die for us! SO GREAT IS HIS LOVE!!!

The Lord is not bound to anything. He is not bound to the past, present or future. He is the same God who knows the End from the Beginning (Isaiah 46:10). He is the same God who took John to the future and showed him things that were going to happen THOUSANDS of years later! This wasn't difficult -- because God is already there!

The God that we cry out to is here now...with you...as well as in the future. The God that we speak with knew us before He ever created the Earth or this universe.

We speak to a God who is unbound and untamed by time. He CREATED Eternity and the Lord hears us/sees us/knows us and the rest of this world while already there.

Be encouraged, dear brother! NOTHING can separate you from His love! Nothing. Just continue to long for Him...to desire to know Him. God can only be pleased with the heart that is desperate for Him -- even when we don't "feel" that such "desperation."

He has ALWAYS longed to hold you in His arms and draw you to Himself. There is no greater "father" in this world. Just rest in the knowledge that He longs for you even more than we long for Him. This is the epitome of faith. We must believe that He is...and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Be encouraged, brother.


PSALM 139 (KJV)

1 O lord, thou hast searched me, and known me.

2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.

3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.

4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether.

5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.

6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.

7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?

8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.

9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;

10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.

11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.

12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.

15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.

16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.

17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!

18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.

19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.

20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.

21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:

24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

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robertsj Mar 18, 2012

My friend, I totally can empathize with your feelings and
thoughts. I too would like to offer 2 scripture verses:

“A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax
shall he not quench…” Is. 42:3.

“For He Himself knows our frame; He is mindful that we
are but dust.” Ps. 103:14.

These two scripture versus are so glorious and wonderful!
I have been down a path that seems to get narrower and
narrower, and feeling that God as abandoned me or at least
on the other side of the universe. Oh, if you would just
grab a hold of these two versus and let them take root in
your heart! My friend, these scriptures provide such a
light. This light not only lights a darkened path for me
but shines in my heart. Christ is such a solid rock that
when you fall (or even crawl) upon Him you won’t fall off.


I have been praying for you and will continue to pray.

~jr

sermonindex Mar 18, 2012

Hey, brother i just watched this message by Jim Logan yesterday or friday night, take a look at it is called Dark Night of the Soul, hope it helps. But i can emphasize with you brother.

sermonindex Mar 18, 2012

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ginnyrose Mar 18, 2012

Dominic,

There is a lot of turmoil in the world today and when we look at it we get overwhelmed. I do, too. Then I remember Jesus.

Remember when Peter asked Jesus if he can walk on the water and he bade him 'come'? Peter walked on the water as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus, but started sinking when he looked around at the waves.

Dominic, we are walking on water and the waves are high and rough, they threaten to swamp us, drown us; but look to Jesus, he will take your hand, stabilize you.

On the practical level, I suggest you limit your reading of the news, religious or secular. Get with the WORD and allow it to fill you. This will quiet the turmoil in your spirit like nothing else can. This is what I do.

EDIT: By doing so, one will gain a brand new perspective of what is going on this world today - it just looks like Jesus' return is so very close because He says things will get worse and worse and will there still be any faith left? How would you answer that? You are not responsible for others but you are for yourself...

God bless.

ginnyrose

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onemite Mar 18, 2012

People have already posted some really wonderful and encouraging things from the Word here.
This sermon helped me a lot. It made good sense to me and has worked its way into my brain. The Holy Spirit still reminds me of these truths when I'm feeling overwhelmed. Maybe it will help you too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWWRUvqnKv0

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