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Healing is a temporary solution.

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tobity Apr 28, 2012

We get sick and die because were mortal.
Even divine healing is temporary, we will eventually sleep.
We need resurrected and immortal bodies, that's the permanent solution.

Sick saints, hang in their, it's going be alright in the end. Every hair on your head is known to Abba, every tear will be wiped away, it's going to be okay.

Look, we're all sick and dying, just some of us are more aware of it than others.

Christ will give us new bodies that never get sick and die!
No more Rolaids, pain pills, or HMO's! Yippee!

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Lysa Apr 29, 2012

Christ will give us new bodies that never get sick and die!
No more Rolaids, pain pills, or HMO's! Yippee!

tobity,

I dare say that we could have that today if we only believed! Yes, we will have to die but I don't read anywhere in the Bible where the saints of God have to die sick. Now, I do believe that we must change what we put into our bodies on a daily basis (I speak for myself) and eat more "natural" foods that has been around for 6000 years!

Healing "IS" the children's bread!

God bless you,
Lisa

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ginnyrose Apr 29, 2012

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Look, we're all sick and dying, just some of us are more aware of it than others.
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AMEN!

The older one gets the more aware you become of this reality. In the meantime one is called to redeem the time. I would suppose this would help in deterring, altering the intensity of the weakness inherent in the human body, especially in one that is wearing out.

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Trekker Apr 29, 2012

Tobity, you are sweet. Thank you for the attempt to encourage, on behalf of all of us with rotting carcasses. :P

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ginnyrose Apr 29, 2012

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Yes, we will have to die but I don't read anywhere in the Bible where the saints of God have to die sick.
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Ever consider Jacob's condition after he wrestled the angel? He was left walking with a cane.

Or, Paul's advice to Timothy that he should take a little wine for his oft affirmities?

Did you know heart attacks are painful?

Still, I am not aware of an post-apostalic writers who would have taught this and neither does the WORD - just that God can and does heal but not that it is a given or a guarantee it will happen.

AND if Christian dies because of an illness, how can he repent of his 'lack of faith' when he/she did trust the LORD? Lisa, don't you see this teaching generates more confusion then comfort? That this is based more on idealism then reality?

Lisa, I look at terminal illness as a blessing in disguise to the victim and his/her family. How? It is by warning these people this person will soon leave this life so he/she better get ready for that departure. AND if you don't and you go to hell you have no one else to blame but yourself! With terminal illness 'good-byes' can be said that will help the family deal with this loss. Been there, done that; seen it and they did it. Works wonderfully!

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ginnyrose Apr 29, 2012

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Thank you for the attempt to encourage, on behalf of all of us with rotting carcasses. :P


LOL

I hope you don't stink too bad! :-)

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rbanks Apr 29, 2012

I was going to just ignore this thread but maybe I can offer something to it.


I understand some of what you are saying tobity!


I also would like to make something clear that when the Lord Jesus heals a person they experience His virtue. They experience something from the Lord rather it be physical or spiritual and it is never a temporary solution.

Jesus and His attributes are never a temporary solution and we should never look at anything He does for us as a temporary solution.


I am not accusing you of anything but I just felt to make that clear because I hate temporary solutions and that is what you will get if you are trusting in anything else but our wonderful Lord Jesus Christ.


Blessings...from brother rbanks

sermonindex Apr 29, 2012

I appreciated your post, tobity. I understand what you're saying. Unless we're still here for the resurrection, we're going to die eventually and that's just a part of life - even if we're healed. Your point is simple enough.

It's the other words of comfort that you expressed, that when I read those words last night, when you posted them - I indeed felt The LORD's comfort 'through' them. Thank you!!
I'd also like to say that GOD also uses infirmities for very Good and specific to the individual purposes and in my case - I've grown in ways I couldn't have before when I was a busy-bee for Jesus. The times I've had with Him since 2002 have been priceless. When we pray with our whole hearts, "LORD, THY will be done." - He honors it fully.
I fought Him on my change of condition for two long miserable yrs - asking that He take this thorn away and it wasn't until I met another whole bunch of Christian women in similar conditions that were formerly also go-getters for The LORD and He also showed me what my new ministry would be, that I finally stopped fighting and realized, I'm where He wants me and has done absolute incredible things since. He can heal me completely any time He chooses as He's healed others that He's laid on my heart to be healed but I know what He's given me in these last 10 yrs of having to depend wholly on Him and it is worth more than anything else on earth that He could have given me. Learning "zero confidence in self/flesh" can sometimes come no other way and it is priceless. We don't realize how much we depend on our own minds, intellect, reasoning, 'self' confidence until He takes that away and we 'have to' depend on Him for almost every thought and also, when you can barely get vertical and He suddenly puts strength into you to accomplish something that He's called you to do.
Absolutely Amazing when it's All of Him and nothing of us and only He can receive the Glory when you know it would have been impossible for either your own mind or body to perform such a thing, nonetheless 'think' of it. Alleluia, What a Saviour - What a Friend!

GOD Bless you!

sermonindex Apr 29, 2012


I went off the computer just now and was reminded of His Words - "Will you Love me even though ..... ?"

sermonindex Apr 29, 2012


I went off the computer just now and was reminded of His Words - "Will you Love me even though ____ ____?"

Anyone of us could fill in that blank with whatever comes at us or to us.

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tobity Apr 30, 2012

Ha ha. Remember, the Devil,the World and the flesh are enemies of God.

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