Miami cannibal (Warning-not for weak at heart)

The Miami cannibal Rudy Eugene just days before the attack was studying a Bible and learning how he could be more holy. Two days later he was shot while naked and eating the face of another man. ( more info at link and much more if you google the thread topic)

http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/2012/05/31/miami-cannibal-attacker-rudy-eugene-was-holding-a-bible-and-meeting-a-friend-the-last-time-his-girlfriend-saw-him

Apparent cause is linked to a new hallucinogenic drug, bath salts.

For those of you planning to tough it out during the tribulation period, bear in mind that these drugs, along with many other unfathomable mind altering tools will be at the disposal of the Antichrist to be used in food, water or whatever. As it progresses, he will not just be discussing things over a nice cup of tea.

Being killed immediately will be one thing, but he is not interested in killing your body to send you to heaven, but in laying claim to your soul. For this he will use all means at his disposal. Precedent: Drugs have been used in past by many antichrists to aid in the destruction of souls.

OJ

Brother,

It just seems this man was addicted to drugs and not a possible christian:

"The girlfriend, who did not want to give her name, told the newspaper Eugene smoked marijuana often but did not use harder drugs. The attack has since been linked to “bath salts” — the street name for a powerful synthesized drug that has been likened to a potent mix of cocaine and speed."

When drugs are taken "willingly" there is a potential of opening yourself up to demon possession or oppression heavily.

This National Post story is Not giving the true picture of this man At All.

And you're using this slanted version of what this man was truly like that's been in other News Stories since day one, as a case against Post-trib believers - period.

If you go to thetreeofliberty [news] forum, this story Plus the full video of this atrocity is posted there since the day it happened - if you need 'gore' to force your own views. There's at least two threads on this on there and this is what I meant when I posted to Greg in his News thread this week, that there are crimes that are even shocking Police. There's another account on that same News forum about another case of cannibalism since you like "shock and awe" - but using it HERE and for your own reasons - because you're pre-trib and attack anyone that doesn't agree with you on 'any' belief of yours - you resort to these extremes.

This man that did this crime and was killed by the police WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN by ANY MEANS. He was POSSESSED if you'd have researched far enough and your comparison falls flat - as Richard Wurmbrand was DRUGGED plus exposed to things beyond words in torture
and we could speak of the multiple thousands of Martyrs through-out history that GOD HIMSELF BRINGS THROUGH VICTORIOUSLY.

HE CALLS HIS LAST DAYS SAINTS THE OVERCOMERS and HE GETS THEM THROUGH!

I don't and am not yelling - but your perception of GOD & the Overcomers is being clouded once again by your hatred toward any that don't agree with you.

I find your reasoning and motive for posting this HERE as 'sick' and an even lower low for you, for a lack of a better word.

The LORD Has a Bride and HE's known before the foundation of the world "those that are HIS" and no power formed against 'them' shall "rob their souls" - as He also knows HOW they will individually die and never puts more on us than we can bear - and that's The Bible - not your version though.

When drugs are taken "willingly" there is a potential of opening yourself up to demon possession or oppression heavily.

Interestingly enough Greg I witnessed the results when an "old friend" gave my mother a drink that we had later learned was spiked with LSD. It certainly wasn't taken "willingly" and without going into details, after destroying the house, she wasn't terribly far from doing what this man did. The dark side is exposed with drugs whether taken willingly or unwillingly.

NONE of us are invulnerable. Drugs were used in several of the persecutions past and will be used in future, yet the Christian has been and will be preserved in spite of hallucinogens or come what may. The Lord preserves them that are His unto Himself, in spite of these things.

2 Timothy 4:18   And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen

That is the beauty and security of a salvation that cannot be lost.

OJ

I find your reasoning and motive for posting this HERE as 'sick' and an even lower low for you, for a lack of a better word.

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the bed today, must be time for your nap now. :-)

OJ

from Joe: "Being killed immediately will be one thing, but he is not interested in killing your body to send you to heaven, but in laying claim to your soul. For this he will use all means at his disposal. Precedent: Drugs have been used in past by many antichrists to aid in the destruction of souls."

And this is supposed to give the babes in Christ Courage, Blayne?

This is a dangerous post and not what GOD says to His "Saints" in His Word. That drugs will be forced on them and they'll lose their soul.

You're a new guy here, Blayne - so mind you that some of us that have been here a lot longer, may know what they're reading.

I don't care too much about what certain folks feel about me, I only care how the young or the weak in Christ read these posts and what they're left with and not with what you 'think' my motives are based upon your own claimed former behavior.
I'm single-sighted in that way and too old to change my view or burden for the vulnerable now.
It's the young and weak in Christ that I see when I read these threads and that's the only ones that I'm concerned for and praying for in these days that we're going to all have to live through. Us older ones have had our chance to grow in our knowledge and assurance in Christ - they haven't and yet they're born-again into the hardest generation that has ever been and some so newly saved, maybe just within this month - and all you have to say does not show any concern for 'them'.
You're not a webmaster here - so get to know the people here and their burdens and the more 'dangerous' faults first.

Take your own advise as well.
Thanks!

It appears that the nap didn't help....

Just letting you know what you will be up against JIG.

OJ

Sis Sandra, I saw this on the news site when it happened and I felt very strongly in my spirit to not post it here. There are limits and there are sensitive folks here. And chances of the impressionable as well. Not impressionable to act in the manner as this demon possessed man - but impressionable enough to be subject to fears - most especially as the OP started off with dis-info that the man was possibly Saved and that they too could be given drugs and lose their soul.

Greg's post wasn't there when I hit reply but I do see how Mr. Joe changed his tune after our posts. Suddenly - in his second post - GOD is able to keep Christians but that wasn't the message conveyed in the Opener.

You could google this. I can't, as I've said, post links about this here.

GOD help us all from those amongst us. Those are the ones that you Don't expect things from, that we get from the world that hates us.

GOD Bless!

Ann

Apparently everyone here is in agreement that studying the Bible and trying to be more holy does not mean that one is a Christian. Note: I did not make an allusion that he was a Christian, just stated some facts. The interesting point in all of this was how far a man could be degraded in just a couple days with chemicals, and that these chemicals will be used in future on professing Christians just as they have been in the past, except now they are new and really improved to do that which the forces of evil want to do.

But now that everyone has brought it up, I would like to hear what it is that makes this man different from any of you?

OJ

Suddenly - in his second post - GOD is able to keep Christians but that wasn't the message conveyed in the Opener.

The message conveyed in the original is that the Antichrist will have good tools to sort out the pretenders. He will lay claim to the souls that belong to him, no matter how high their profession.

BTW God always keeps Christians JIG, you are the one who preaches that Christians can lose their salvation and therefore have no hope to offer in such a situation. A true Christian is always entirely secure in Christ, come what may.

In the meantime, don't strain a muscle patting yourself on the back...

OJ

Not sure the nature/intention of your question, but we can start here:
I'm born again of God's Spirit and he obviously was not. Other than that, (& before I was born again from the kingdom of darkness and into the kingdom of His marvelous light) - there wasn't probably a lot of difference. Maybe we listened to different music, had different pet sins, and liked different toppings on our pizza, but we were of the same spiritual Father at the time, the devil. Thank God He adopted me as a son and brought me into the fold!

I'm born again of God's Spirit and he obviously was not.

I am not sure that you can claim that just yet. What we know from the evidence is that he was studying the Bible and wanting to be more holy, but also had a drug problem. Then under the influence of a super drug (we don't know how it got into him yet) he became something other than what he wanted to be. That same drug could cause you to do something similar, and then we would have to write you off as well, without the drug this is a bit easier, but with it things can be much more complicated.

OJ

Remember this simple truth — if you did nothing to earn your salvation, you can do nothing to lose it.

A hearty amen!

OJ