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PreachParsly Feb 14, 2005

Here is the link to it. I didnt want to paste the whole thing here. Environmental Christians

sermonindex Feb 14, 2005

thank you for that link.

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alanrepent Feb 14, 2005

maybe i'm totally out of line and someone can give me a little more BIBLICAL light on this, but christians should not be worrying about things like this. don't intentionally abuse the environment, but don't go out of your way to protect it either. there are much more important things to be done for the kingdom. look at what God says:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.do we really need to stress that much over an earth that's going to melt with fervent heat? it's like trying to put a fresh coat of paint on your house as you watch it burn down.

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PreachParsly Feb 14, 2005

Yes I agree with you completely alan. I mean sure dont purposely start destroying things but dont love the creation more than the Creator.

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Angyl Feb 14, 2005

In my opinion, there is a fairly fine line between being an abuser and someone who pushes the envelope of conservation too far.On the one hand, this Earth IS headed for destruction and we know, as Christians that absolutley no amount of "tree-hugging" is going to turn this place into paradise.On the other hand, however, that doesn't exactly leave us free to become careless with the world we've been given. I think that if Christians aren't careful, it is far too easy to try to apply the compassion and love Christ showed for us (people) and try to apply it across the board (people, animals, trees, etc.) That' NOT THE WAY IT IS TO BE.The earth and the animals in it, are a possession. OUR possession. They (it) are not on our level in any way, but we are called to be the caretakers of both the planet and the animal kingdom of this world.Like everything else in our lives, it is a Stewardship, and God will undoubtedly be calling all of us to account for how we handled what we were given. Now, having said all that, I believe a litmust test, if you will, for everyone in their care of the planet is a simple matter of priorities. If you are spending more time at Green Tree rallies than you do soul winning...If you spend more money making posters and flyers for events to keep people Earth Conscious than you do in your church...If you donate more to PETA than you give towards the work of God...then you've probably crossed the line. People...specificaly the souls of people, should come first, always and in every way. If, after you've thrown yourself into the work of God, you find yourself with a burden and time/energy/money to dedicate to saving animals and trees, then more power to ya.

sermonindex Feb 15, 2005

In my opinion, there is a fairly fine line between being an abuser and someone who pushes the envelope of conservation too far.Agreed.I also agreed with your viewpoint that this world is headed for destruction, and the ironic thing is that the creation might be the one to do it.Nuclear weaponry is interesting, in that what mankind has done is to mimic God for one second, meaning mankind can mimic the power of the sun, for one second, to annihilate other human beings.harnessed that power for one second, and you look up in the heavens and Master of the Universe has done it millions of times, millions of stars, millions of sustained fusion reactions, and we beat our breasts over a "nuclear arsenal".Since satan is prince of this world, guess who controls this arsenal? the arsenals of all the nations that now hold nukes, North Korea the newest club entrant.the devil holds the nukes.Jesus was warning us, turn the other cheek, love your enemies, sheath the sword, he who lives by the sword, will die by the sword.We're not gonna listen, are we?We're even so perverted, us humans, that we craft weapons of disease.......oh Lord, if that aint demonic, I don't know what is.Its coming, and now the children of Ishmael endeavour to get nukes. One of these days somebodies gonna call you (and me) and say these bonechilling words, "turn on to CNN", and we'll get the first sketchy reports of an IDF strike on Iranian nuclear facilities.You know what always rubs me the wrong way? and IS SINFUL, coz its gluttony and greed......these huge gas-guzzling behemoths you see tooling down the highways...that aint freedom, thats national gluttony.It will be interesting to see how James Dobson and Chuck Colson interface with the enviromental left........'s not gonna be a lotta love in that room....lol

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philologos Feb 15, 2005

And Jehovah God taketh the man, and causeth him to rest in the garden of Eden, to serve it, and to keep it. (Gen 2:15 YLT) This is the Young's Literal Translation. The original commission given to us was to 1. serve the creation2. guard the creationHow are we doing so far? and did God ever cancel this commission?

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RobertW Feb 15, 2005

How are we doing so far? Not too good seeing man allowed the Sin to enter in to it. Since then the whole thing has been in a state of inutility. I did a study of the creation some years ago and found that there was a time when everything was in a perfect state of symphonic equilibrium. Everything worked together in perfect harmony. As beautiful as creation is I believe it is but a shadow of what once was. Same thing holds true for man. We lost more than we realize with the fall. did God ever cancel this commission?I don't know that He did. One thing I feel totally convicted about is littering (for example). Some folk just toss all kinds of things into the outdoors as if it were free. I can't do that myself. I think the primary way in which we are to slow the decay of society is by being salt and light. This is not the natural world as in nature, but in terms of priority I think it goes without saying thst it comes first and foremost. But we ought not to abuse the creation either. Just a few thoughts...God Bless,-Robert

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