Ravi Zacharias speaks at the Mormon Tabernacle

He spoke at the UN too. Don't know what to make of it.

I had downloaded the audio of his message when it was presented but could never get myself to listen to it because I was afraid - because I always liked him so much.
That message was in my computer that died - so I just did a search for it and now it's transcripted. {etr}

http://www.rzim.org/usa/usfv/tabid/436/articleid/96/cbmoduleid/1045/default.aspx

Yeah, that's the problem with these big named preachers. They'll speak anywhere, giving no thought to the fact that their presence automatically endorses the beliefs of the organization. For instance, this one preacher who's stuff I used to really like (the Apostle Paul), spoke to a whole group of Pagans in the Areopagus...right in the midst of all of their idols and pagan gods! And this other guy, Jesus of Nazareth, had the audacity to preach in Sheol!

The nerve of these guys.

I know right! Like how the apostle Paul stood up in Areopagus and told them that the Divine Nature was not a One fashioned out of gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. (Acts 17:29) And then following up by saying that God has commanded all men everywhere to repent.

I'm sure that's what was being preached in the LDS temple right? The same way Paul did it, saying that the Jesus that the Mormons serve and believe to be the half-brother of Satan isn't the real Jesus. And that God has commanded that they repent. Just like Paul did it.

Right?

Confronted the idols and told them that their precepts of God and who Christ is are inherently and fatally flawed and cannot save them, and that the time of ignorance was over and now repentance was commanded?

Luke 24

"and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day,and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem."

I didn't hear one reference to repentance in the message that was preached to the Mormons, who are just as lost as any other heathen.

And Jesus didn't mix words much in John 4 when confronted with someone who said that Jews and Samaritans basically worshipped the same God. He didn't let that masquerade go for a second and directly answered that God MUST be worshipped in spirit AND in truth.

The Mormons most certainly do not worship in truth. Christ and Paul must be our examples when preaching to the lost, but we have to make sure we do it the same way they did, and not skirt around the essentials that have to FIRST be established.

To try and use any other method or reasoning is disingenuous to the context and the example left for us.

it does not matter where all the problems are for a river pilot if he stays in the channel. the gospel is our channel.

So Jesus, Paul, and all the rest of the apostles weren't really living the Gospel when they warned of all the problems, and preached against the errors of their day, correct?

paul, as you said pointed to a slab to the unknown god and preached the gospel.if you are a pastor or the leadeer of those you have led to Christ or are responsible for then you can criticize and warn those in your fold ...otherwise shut up.

What about a few verses down from there where he called idols false and said God commanded that they repent? Or the verses before where he was provoked (literally to anger as the Greek seems to make it appear) when he saw the idols receiving glory instead of God?

The ones in that circumstance being told about their error were certainly not in Paul's fold. He found common ground between them, but he didn't just leave it at that. He confronted the error that they believed. He essentially said, "You may have gotten something right, but here's where you've gone off." I would again ask for Scripture references and precedents to validate what you're saying. The Bible's filled with the opposite. "The Bible is both pro-active (positive – The gospel, the good news) and reactive (negative -pointing out error)."

I'm not judging any men personally, I'm simply stating what they're saying in light of how the Word shows us an example. God will ultimately judge all men, however the Word of God will help us to judge the things that they say and do on earth (1 Cor 2:15), which will be apparent to all. If anyone has an issue with that they can take it up with the Author. I didn't write it.

And again, I've never said one word against Mr. Zacharias on this thread. I did not call him a false teacher, a false brother, a deceiver, or anything like that. The only thing I'm doing is comparing the example of what Paul and Jesus said and did to what's being preached to the lost today, as there is not a man alive who's actions are not to be examined against the Biblical example left for us. If that's the Biblical definition of the type of "judging" we're not supposed to be doing, then...

Did Jesus "sanction" the beliefs of the pharisees and saducees when he preached in the temple? Did Jesus "sanction" the beliefs of the Samaritans when He preached to the woman at the well? Do evangelist of today sanction the actions of the Homosexuals when they preach in the "Tenderloin District" of San Francisco? It matters not HERE we preach, but WHAT we preach!

You're right. But in all of those situations, Jesus never compromised the truth for the sake of "peace". He went directly for their error, and exposed it for what it was. Error. He didn't "sanction" their error in their arena, he addressed it as error, and pulled no punches about it, or tried to appear relevant. To brush over error for the sake of "unity" has never been God's idea of evangelism. The truth was preached at the sake of the preachers life, and ultimately it was required of them. Almost all of them, actually. To say anything else doesn't line up with the Bible.

Think Jesus and all of the apostles were killed and/or persecuted because they were just "sticking to the truth and not pointing out error and false beliefs?"

They made no compromise on the truth, and pointed it out the same way a father would cry out to his young child playing in the road or trying to put a fork in an electrical socket. But like selfish children the world thinks that dad's only trying to ruin their fun.

The argument made in this thread that one can not preach in the bastion of the enemy is false, one can; as long as one preaches the inerrant Word of God, confronting the false beliefs of those he is preaching to, which in some cases, may endanger one's life.

EXACTLY. Couldn't have said it better myself.

I bet we could be good friends!

For sure, man.