Is there any good in an unregenerate man ?? Are all unregenerate men totaly narcissistic, that even there good deeds are from a egoistic heart?? Are all unregenerate men incapable of compassion and real Love for others???
Hi! 'ProudPapa'
Yuh know? It seems that every time I bump into one of your Threads/question my suspicion of them having something near a lit fuse behind them increases. :)
"Is there any good in an unregenerate man?".
There's gotta' be some kinna' explosion waitin' to go off with that one, ay?
Is there any value to a caterpillar?
Yes.
Is there more value when it undergoes a metamorphosis to become a butterfly?
Yes,indeed.
Our only good and perfect God boasts about how He gladly "feeds the birds of the air", "quenches the thirst of the wild donkey", "causes grass to grow for the cattle", and about how "high hills were created for the wild goats and the cliffs for the rock badgers".
So, how 'bout YOU tell me.
If God is so caring and kind with the animals of natural creation, why shouldn't we expect Him to be equally kind and caring towards the creature which He created after His own "image and likeness"?
"Unregenerate" should never imply a meaning of "worthless".
The word is intended to distinguish between those choosing to remain a caterpillar and those who volunteered to undergo a metamorphosis and become "new creatures" ... butterflies.
There are the regenerate who did the works of Jesus, and even greater works. These works follow them and determine the size and the stature of their spiritual, invisible bodies. These deeds are compared with fine linen, bright and pure, with which the saints are clothed. "For the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints" (Rev 19:8).
When "at that day" (last judgment) Christ judges the Gentiles who did not have God's law and were therefore unable to work for their righteousness, their deeds will show how much of the inner law of God functioned in their lives. "They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts". The measure that is used for this purpose is the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, (Ephesians 4:13). Jesus is the model or the standard, and everyone is judged in accordance with what Jesus did or was on earth. He is the measure, that is, the perfect man. Jews, Gentiles, and Christians will all be judged by the one measure.
Blayne wrote ///Yuh know? It seems that every time I bump into one of your Threads/question my suspicion of them having something near a lit fuse behind them increases.///
BOOOMM!!! Hey Blayne you have found yourself in a mind field, BOOOMMM!!!
I was bad about that when I first started posting here on SI, which was about the same time as you started posting.
But God has been dealing with me on that subject and the sin of Debate and the spirit behind debate and I have been furthering myself from that kind of tactic.
I have mixed feelings on this thread topic as have many of my more recent threads and am just bouncing Ideas off of others. Rather than having an absolute answer before asking the question as had been the case with many of my earler post.
Hi! 'ProudPapa'
Yer hilarious!
Yeah, when I myself reach back an' remember how I behaved in some Discussion Forums way-back-then, it brings a flush of embarrassment to my face. It's a remembering of those kinna' occasions when I utter a relieved sigh an' say, "Thank goodness for the anonymity at MouseLand!" (internet).
The Gospel of Blayne says, "As far as my Mouse is from my Keyboard, so far hath I remained anonymous in Mouseland." :)
Ummm, someone happened to mention to me that this SI Forum was at some period previous much more conducive to interaction between members an' whatever. But that the 'powers-that-be' have since harshly tightened the lid on things. Without any alternative, I was compelled to openly speak about my suspicion of lit fuses. Sorry 'bout that.
Anyways, I have recently discovered an alternative Forum which is not so entirely restricted as here and I now frequent that Site instead. Maybe one day we'll bump into each other there. I would like that very much.
Keep Smilin'!
Blayne
Blayne: Thank you for your post; I found it deep, and edifying. To whom much is given, much is required. Consider the downs syndrome Christian girl; filled with God's love. I have met her, and hung out with her, and it has been very sweet.
You mentioned that we would all be measured by one standard.
"The measure that is used for this purpose is the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, (Ephesians 4:13). Jesus is the model or the standard, and everyone is judged in accordance with what Jesus did or was on earth.
He is the measure, that is, the perfect man. Jews, Gentiles, and Christians will all be judged by the one measure.".Blayne.
Firstly , yes and no; because if one has been truly born again, and his indwelling is the authentic Holy Spirit of God in us, this one will be judged as to how he responded to God, while the unbeliever will not, He or she will be judged primarily as to why or how they rejected God, and the Savior.
"Also; THE FIRST WILL BE LAST, AND THE LAST FIRST!" This means that the weak ones, the last place [losers in the eyes of some, like my Downs syndrome girl..]] people, will be judged by a different standard than the Earthly one; "HAVE YOU LEARNED HOW TO LOVE?"
This is the great equalizer, from the EMPLEMENTOR of the flat world of Heaven, where the weak and the strong are judged by the mercy they gave, and how they responded to the mercy they gave. Agape Love is united with mercy through the Cross, and obedience and favor is given by God to those who practice agape Love, not do great things, or have big ministries.
It is here that the widow and the orphan can shine, and Lazarus, the beggar too, and it is here that the Priest class may be shocked to hear that all of their religious activity in a pyramid oriented ministry that they perceived put them on top, did the exact opposite, and propelled them to the bottom of the line; or worse....out side the line altogether.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity!
I foresee a lot of Pastors hearing this, especially those who loved the preeminence. [ 3John]...and I see a lot of my down syndrome young-uns right up front a dancin'.
The last will be first too.
Hi! 'BrotherTom'
'BrotherTom', I jus' couldn't resist offering you some consideration towards your comment saying:
->Also; THE FIRST WILL BE LAST, AND THE LAST FIRST!" This means that the weak ones, the last place [losers in the eyes of some, like my Downs syndrome girl..]] people, will be judged by a different standard than the Earthly one; "HAVE YOU LEARNED HOW TO LOVE?"
Dear Blayne,
"Regretfully, this comment will end my continued participation at SI."
This is a great loss to those remaining at SI. It appears that God is calling His people out of SI.
WS
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