Can an Evangelical Christian Vote for a Mormon? by Franklin Graham

This bothers me because first he says that, " I think when we are voting for president we need to get the person who is absolutely the most qualified", but then goes on to say that. "our government leaders have turned their back on God and His laws and His statutes and we need to pray that God would give us a new crop of politicians, I don’t care if they are republicans or democrats, but who fear God and who will put God’s standards above everything else and who will take us back to the God of our fathers and that’s what we need to pray but right now our country is going in the wrong direction we need to make a change." Which is it? Sure someone can be both, but most won't be.

The problem is, I believe that no true Christians are in these positions and I pray that if one does stand up, us as a Christian people would stand together and put him in office. I don't care if he is the best qualified by this world's standard! David was qualified by God and that's the type of person we need desperately.

Are we to vote then? I believe we should vote even if it is a non-Christian. I don't want the one whose in to stay in, but I don't want the one that's running in, but I have to choose.

Bear,

I won't post anymore about this because I believe it will not profit anyone. I'm not mad or anything like that, but we just see it differently and I'm ok with that. I want to say this thought, I want God to effect everyone and I'm sure you do as well, but I want to get involved with as much of the world as I can. I mean, to be holy, righteous, justified, all by Christ, and in the world to be that light upon a hill. I know this though, the Spirit of God is in me and I'm surrendered to His will! He is leading me down His paths and I'm trying to follow as clearly as I can and if He shows me to do something or not do it I pray I do those things.

Blessings!

Bearmaster,

As I have pointed out previously, there are many sincere believers here who will vote. You shouldn't make suggestions or insinuations about our spiritual conditions.

Please season your posts with the grace to at least acknowledge that many believers do not share your opinion. Please refrain from suggesting that we have compromised our faith, feel no grief over sin...or that we don't preach the Gospel and make disciples...or haven't been crucified with Christ or retained our citizenship in Heaven.

Do you understand how your opinion can come across as condescending when it includes such insinuations or assumptions?

There are many sincere believers who meet with Christ daily in intimate prayer, worship and study of God's Word who might still feel a need or liberty to vote for one candidate over another in the election.

We may not agree on something like this. However, we should not conclude (especially in public) the worst of those with whom we may disagree on these (or other non-essential) matters.

We should encourage others to pray about it all...before they vote...and let the Holy Spirit lead and guide others in all such matters.

Chris if you chose to participate in the election then that is your perogative. But seeing that these two candidates are controlled by an antichtmrist spirit I will raise my voice and cry an alarm. I will encourage those who will listen to flee Babylon.

I encourage you to join me as we all flee Babylon. However, this includes the SPEECH and LANGUAGE of Babylon -- including the insinuations, assumptions and condescending remarks that are reminiscent of the children of Babylon.

But brother are you aware of tbe urgency of the hour?

Of course. I mention this in many of my posts, yet you continue to ask.

Chris do you see tbe reality of the world around you?

Of course.

Are you not aware of the coming storm of persecution?

Again, I have voiced as much in many of my posts. Why do you ask a question that should be obvious by the content of my posts on the subject? It is as if the question itself -- and each question like it -- is an insinuation.

Does it not cross your mind that either one of these candidates will accelerate that persecution?

One of these candidates already has.

Are you not aware of the deception of tbe evil one.

Again, this is a ridiculous question. How would you appreciate it if I asked you these same questions in many threads on this and other topics? Would you feel like the question itself is assuming the worst in you?

But, in answer to your question, YES. Yes, I am aware that Satan is a master of deception and the father of lies.

Chris you seem to think that this is a matter of political opinion taking place in an academic environment.

No, I don't.

Chris this is a matter of spiritual warfare and demonic forces.

The same is true of EVERYTHING in life -- including work, paying taxes, educating your children, etc... There is a spiritual war going on...but that doesn't mean that I get out of taxes or can sit around on SermonIndex collecting a government check (or living off of other believers) instead of getting up and working for my wife and family.

These forces are real. I say again these are demonic forces at work and they are real.

You don't have to tell me. I know that such things are real. I have seen things that I don't post here; however, please understand that I -- like all believers -- know such things are real.

Satan is weaving a deceptive web over evangelicals and they are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.

He has been doing this for thousands of years. Thankfully, through much intimate prayer and study of God's Word, I will not fall for his devices.

Some even prepared to call Mormons brethren in Christ. And that is wrong.

No one ever said differently. In fact, many of us have stated this same thing repeatedly. Yet, many of us feel that we can vote for Mitt Romney despite his religious views.

As long as I have breath I will cry alarm.

There is a difference between "crying" an "alarm" and insinuating that those who disagree with your opinion are guilty of the types of things that you insinuate. It would be helpful if you could make a distinction.

Though my voice will fall on deaf ears I will cry aloud for God's people to not participate in an election where two candidates controlled by demonic spirits vie for tbe highest office in tbe land.

Oh, believe me, we aren't "deaf." We hear you do this over and over again. However, it doesn't mean that we necessarily will agree with your opinions or that you are right. It also doesn't give you a right to insinuate or suggest the worst of those with whom you disagree.

The answer is simple. Flee Babylon and cleave unto Jesus.

Amen! It would help if you understood that we ARE fleeing Babylon. It would also help if others didn't try to insinuate that those with whom they disagree are refusing to do so.

Chris

by bearmaster on 2012/10/11 16:10:39

Yes, an evangelical Christian can vote for a Mormon and be quite comfortable with it. But then.the average evangelical, Christian has compromised his faith with the world. And feels no grief over his sin.

Now can one who denies himself, takes up his cross daily and follows Jesus Christ vote for a Mormon? My answer would be no. Because one who follows Christ in this fashion realizes his citizenship is in heaven. Such a person has crucified himself to the world and is cleaving as unto Christ.

Such a disciple will not grieve his Lord by voting for a cultist controlled by an antichrist spirit.

Bearmaster.

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bear, i don't vote because i follow the conviction of my heart but none of us has the right to say these kinds of things to another brother/sister in Christ because they are following their conscious before Christ and voting. You have said these kinds of things before and brother it just is not demonstrating the love of Christ to imply that other believers are less devoted to God or not grieved over their sin because they vote. You are judging the hearts of others based on your conviction and that is not right. How do you know that those who vote do not grieve over their sin? Has God given you a special word of knowledge, has He reveled the heart of another for you to see into? Please i ask you to consider, reread what you wrote here and think about what you have said, do you really know the heart of every brother and sister in Christ who chooses to vote that you can really stand by this post?

rdg

bear, how can you say Mitt Romney is more dangerous or deceptive, both men are fallen, both are sinners living for self, both are enemies of God and children of the enemy so how can one be worse then the other. both are in need of prayer, you speak of praying for the lost how many times have you prayed for either of these two men? Mitt Romney is not past saving, pray for him and president Obama both need prayer for their salvation. you say Mitt Romney is the leader of a cult religion, president Kennedy was the follower of a cult religion and God used him for his purpose and he will use whomever wins the next election for his purpose as well. nothing takes God by surprise, after all the one who wins is put into power by God.

i have appreciated much of what you have shared but i still ask you to reread your other post, your words were very judging toward other believers.

rdg

Bearmaster,

You are making assumptions again. No one is going "gaga" over Governor Romney. No one is endorsing the cult that he belongs to. Some people just think that he would be a better president.

You don't know whether or not Mitt Romney will be elected (regardless of the lack of doubt that you claim).

You can share your opinion...but you need to face the fact that many believers will listen to your opinion and disagree with it. You have no right to dismiss our faith and make vile suggestions about the condition of our faith.

It is a good thing to listen to the messages from the conference. It is a good thing to flee deception. It is good to understand that there is urgency in this hour. It is a good thing to "flee Babylon." However, you need to understand that this is true of ALL of us. To suggest otherwise can be a sign of spiritual pride that is publicly raised over those who you don't agree with.

None of us are being "moralists." If you are accusing anyone of this, then you need to stop. You also need to come to the realization that there are many believers here who want all of the things that you do in your life...but they may have a difference of opinion with you in regard to voting in November or deciding that one person might be better suited for the job of president than the other.

Bearmaster,

On this topic, it may be wise to "dust off your feet" and move along. Speak to those who will listen and hear.

Nothing personal against my Romney voting brothers and sisters, but it pains me too much to see deception fall inside the family.

I love you all, but this is deception.

I agree, Miccah. I often feel like dusting my feet on this matter too. However, it is continuously brought up.

Long ago, I pondered why we couldn't just share our view (making note that it is just that -- our view) and ask the brethren to PRAY intently before they make any decisions.

I do understand that you and some others think that it is "deception" if a person decides that Mitt Romney might be a better choice for president and, after prayer, feels the liberty or unction to support his candidacy. I understand.

Clearly: I hate Mormonism. I hate Catholicism. I hate Liberation Theology. However, I also pray long and hard about this -- as do many of the believers for whom some very condescending words are spoken (or, in this case, typed).

I do love you, Brother Miccah. However, we must leave some things up to the Holy Spirit. Let the Lord lead us. There is nothing wrong with sharing our view...especially when backed with Scripture...and then allowing the Lord to have His work.

After all, many of us are sincerely praying. We spend much time in prayer...daily. As a believer, the election is not high on my list or priorities when I go to God in my prayer closet. I long for HIM. I want to know HIM. I want to please HIM. I hunger and thirst to see HIS face. I desire to do HIS will. Yet, I do bring this up to Him. I search His Word to ascertain His thoughts as well.

The election will be over in a month. After that, I suspect that many believers will turn to squabbling over specific eschatology, Calvinism, Bible versions, the gifts of the Spirit and other such matters. One of the top two candidates will likely be the president. Yet, this doesn't change our need to go to God in prayer or present the Gospel to this lost and dying world.

I love you, brother. I just hope that you understand that this isn't nearly as significant as some would make it out to be...and that it is unlikely that all of us will agree upon this issue. Yet, before and after the election, we can still encourage one another in the faith as we each seek to walk with God.

May the Lord guide each of us.

Deception: the fact or condition of being deceived.

By definition, those under deception do not know they are deceived.

Sorry if my non-vote will not help get your guy in office. A no vote is a no vote. And I would rather not vote, then fall under deception.

(krispy quote)This much I can tell you: not voting for Romney, or not voting at all... is a vote for Obama. Obama is more than happy to see you sit this one out.
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i was agreeing with most of your post until this part. are you trying to "guilt" another believer into voting? some clarifying please??

i don't vote and yeah maybe by not voting Obama wins but its not my responsibility as a christian to vote, it is my responsibility to follow Jesus leading. all i know is i have to follow my conscious just like you are doing. i have prayed hard and long about this and i do not believe God wants me to vote. i will not push my understanding off on another believer and call them a sinner for voting, hope those who do vote can give the same consideration to those of us who feel led to not be involved with this worlds governments affairs.

rdg