An Apology to Mr Robert Wurtz

Although I have decided not to participate in the forum discussion for the foreseeable future I believe that it is only proper and reasonable to apologies to Mr Robert Wurtz for both of my posts that clearly were written in a poor spirit. As both of these posts included direct reference to Mr Wurtz own contribution this amounted to an irresponsible attitude on my part and clearly could have had only one effect. Therefore the claim that my comments were uncharitable, immoderate, divisive and unnecessary was a reasonable response to my posts by a moderator towards whom the comments were clearly directed.

Andrew M R Kelly

Thank you brother for your maturity in Christ to post this, I believe that is honouring to God and I look forward to the time both you and Robert can sit down in person and have godly fellowship together.

Praise the Lord bro Andrew. Good example of humility and maturity that we rarely see. I pray, like bro Greg, that one day both of you get to sit down with each other. Brother Robert is passionatley sold out to the Lord Jesus as I am sure that you are too bro Andrew.............bro Frank

Good stuff here guys. I know I have had to humble myself and apoloize several times on this forum... and the beautiful thing is that it always brought about restoration and a deeper love and respect for the person(s) I offended.

Krispy

If I may say something about things posted in haste and then regret later.

When we post something that has to be recanted, it's not the same as speaking verbally.

Verbally it's quick, but typing it is not that quick.

We have to type it, scroll down and hit submit. During the time of typing we have the opportunity of 'cooling' down and think rationally about what we are doing.

But many don't. We continue on typing and getting nastier as we type.

On other forums years ago, If someone rubbed my fur the wrong way theologically, I would lash back and I would type type and type and type my rebuttal and at the end of it all, I would look at it and hit delete because I had the wrong spirit.

I now use a method to the way I submit these postings, I re-read my posts and I play the part of the person who will read it and I'd be my own critic. Sometimes they never make it to print.

But the point that I want to say is that while we are typing we have all the time in the world to not go through with our 'get back' attitude.

Than on the other hand, God allows us to rant so He will humble us later. And how many times have we found ourselves there?

Brother Andrew, thank you for being open with us. God Bless.

If I may say something about things posted in haste and then regret later.

When we post something that has to be recanted, it's not the same as speaking verbally.

Verbally it's quick, but typing it is not that quick.

We have to type it, scroll down and hit submit. During the time of typing we have the opportunity of 'cooling' down and think rationally about what we are doing.

But many don't. We continue on typing and getting nastier as we type.

On other forums years ago, If someone rubbed my fur the wrong way theologically, I would lash back and I would type type and type and type my rebuttal and at the end of it all, I would look at it and hit delete because I had the wrong spirit.

I now use a method to the way I submit these postings, I re-read my posts and I play the part of the person who will read it and I'd be my own critic. Sometimes they never make it to print.

But the point that I want to say is that while we are typing we have all the time in the world to not go through with our 'get back' attitude.

Than on the other hand, God allows us to rant so He will humble us later. And how many times have we found ourselves there?

Well said.

If I may say something about things posted in haste and then regret later.

When we post something that has to be recanted, it's not the same as speaking verbally.

Verbally it's quick, but typing it is not that quick.

We have to type it, scroll down and hit submit. During the time of typing we have the opportunity of 'cooling' down and think rationally about what we are doing.

But many don't. We continue on typing and getting nastier as we type.

On other forums years ago, If someone rubbed my fur the wrong way theologically, I would lash back and I would type type and type and type my rebuttal and at the end of it all, I would look at it and hit delete because I had the wrong spirit.

I now use a method to the way I submit these postings, I re-read my posts and I play the part of the person who will read it and I'd be my own critic. Sometimes they never make it to print.

But the point that I want to say is that while we are typing we have all the time in the world to not go through with our 'get back' attitude.

Than on the other hand, God allows us to rant so He will humble us later. And how many times have we found ourselves there? Approved.

I am obliged to respond to the posts that have been left in this thread.

Firstly thank you to everyone for their gracious and sincere replies they are a true blessing and do glorify the Living God in the heavens. They are also a testimony to Christ and the salvation that is in Him.

Whilst these replies are a comfort, one reply stands out above all the others and has to be acknowledged because it is true and thoroughly true.

We are not earthbound natural and demonic. We are sons and daughters of the Living God. We do not have to do anything. We do not have to press the enter button. I did not have to. Yet I did and I knew even at the moment I did that it was wrong and that it would produce no good thing. Yet God is gracious and he has His way of humbling His servants even thought they themselves know that they are being proud and foolish; yet they press the button.

In the dessert Israel was given Manna yet they asked for meat. They were given the knowledge of setting nets and they had meat. Yet the Manna was sufficient. I thank God that he sets a net for our feet and thereby He teaches us the meat of humility. Discernment is of no use whatsoever if it produces a natural, fleshy and demonic outworking. Of itself it will produce nothing if it is not tempered with humility, gentleness and mercy. It must be so because this was how the Lord Jesus lived and He is our example.