Evangelism - Ten Shekels and a Shirt - Ray Comfort??

I hope the title wasn't too confusing.I listened to 'Ten Shekels and a Shirt' today and it really blew me away. What a powerful message. I am just unsure of something that I don't think he clarified, how do we evangelise without being humanistic?I like the teaching of Ray Comfort and always felt comfortable with his approach to demonstrating someone's condition and then if they have a broken and contrite heart to share the good news of the gospel.Reidhead suggest that if you inform someone that they are heading to hell and they cling to Jesus to go to heaven that that is humanistic?? (In regards to his mission to Africa)How do we then evangelise to someone if you can't tell them their true condition? Will people really come to Christ because Christ deserves the reward of His suffering? I know for myself being saved, that the point of doing it for Christ's glory as He deserves it has really encouraged me to evangelise more just not sure if that would work for the 'unsaved' and bring them to Christ?I will be listening to the message again just incase I totally missed something that he said (I was driving when I heard the message).God Bless.

Reidhead suggest that if you inform someone that they are heading to hell and they cling to Jesus to go to heaven that that is humanistic?? (In regards to his mission to Africa)I don't believe that Mr. Reidhead would not want us to tell sinners about hell. He simply would desire that the focus of our hearts and our message be the glory of God and how He can be satisfied, not how man can be satisfied. Remember Mr. Reidhead called man's happiness a by-product and not a prime product. This doesn't mean we don't talk about the by-product at all but rather that it shouldn't be talked about primarily, as a drawing card to Jesus. Our talking about the condition of man(using the law), and the provision God has made for that condition (grace),should not turn into an appeal for what man can get out of God but rather awaken the man to realize the goodness of our God and how worthy He is of our absolute all.Mr. Reidhead is combating the humantistic gospel that has taken man's hapiness to the extreme and the forefront of much of what passes for evangelism today instead of in the background where it belongs. Jesus Christ and Him crucified belongs up front!In Christ,Ron

Mr_Nath wrote:I am just unsure of something that I don't think he clarified, how do we evangelise without being humanistic?I also heard the same thing, and was shot down for trying to apply it to need based evangelism. How it seems to be settling in my heart is the fact the the sinner repents because he has violated the laws of a holy God and stolen his glory, not because he is going to hell, in that order.

What I recived from that message was that it boils down to your motives. I belive telling others of the Jugement to come is very nessesary and then show them the way out of it. I think, its the motives behind it, not nessesarily how its preached. (but im a firm beliver of preaching law, judgement, then grace in other words i agree with Comfort.) Are you evangelizing because you feel as though they are poor little inocent sinners? Or you belive that The Lamb that was slain deserves the reward of His suffering? Is it for the glory of God, or to try to make people better?

We also need to remember that "Ten Shekels and a Shirt" was just one message among many years of Reidhead's ministry. This quote by Reidhead is in Ray Comfort's "The Evidence Bible":"If I had my way, I would declare a maratorium on public preaching of 'the plan of salvation' in America for one or two years. Then I would call on everyone who has use of the airwaves and the pulpits to preach the holiness of God, the righteousness of God, and the Law of God, until sinners would cry out, 'What must we do to be saved?' Then I would take them off in a corner and whisper the gospel to them. Don't use John 3:16. Such drastic action is needed because we have gospel-hardened a generation of sinners by telling them how to be saved before they have any understanding why they need to be saved."

Sir, if you are indeed that concerned about it, do this: Find someone to meet with, at least once a week, and pray with them on those specific topics. Mutual accountability is a wonderful thing, and group intercession has been an amazing part of my life, the little bit I have been involved in.That, and revival (or caring for the community), and prayer for spiritual leadership was pretty high on Paul's to-do list :-)

oboy wrote:We also need to remember that "Ten Shekels and a Shirt" was just one message among many years of Reidhead's ministry. This quote by Reidhead is in Ray Comfort's "The Evidence Bible":"If I had my way, I would declare a maratorium on public preaching of 'the plan of salvation' in America for one or two years. Then I would call on everyone who has use of the airwaves and the pulpits to preach the holiness of God, the righteousness of God, and the Law of God, until sinners would cry out, 'What must we do to be saved?' Then I would take them off in a corner and whisper the gospel to them. Don't use John 3:16. Such drastic action is needed because we have gospel-hardened a generation of sinners by telling them how to be saved before they have any understanding why they need to be saved."This Reidhead has a similar quote to this in his seromn Except Ye Repent, if you want to put it into context. Also on this theme The Right Use Of The Law.

Jesse writes:I have listened to Ten Shekel Shirt by Paris Reidhead and Hells Best Kept Secret by Ray Comfort countless times each. I love both messages very much! We must use the Law in our evangelism, and we must do all things for the glory of God.When I preach to sinners, my message is the same as the Apostle Pauls:Acts 17:30-31"Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, BECAUSE He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead."Can you tell me where you find Paul 'using the Law in his evangelism'?

Romans 7:1-61 † Are you unaware, brothers (for I am speaking to people who know the law), that the law has jurisdiction over one as long as one lives?2 Thus a married woman is bound by law to her living husband; but if her husband dies, she is released from the law in respect to her husband.3 Consequently, while her husband is alive she will be called an adulteress if she consorts with another man. But if her husband dies she is free from that law, and she is not an adulteress if she consorts with another man.4 In the same way, my brothers, you also were put to death to the law through the body of Christ, so that you might belong to another, to the one who was raised from the dead in order that we might bear fruit for God.5 For when we were in the flesh, our sinful passions, awakened by the law, worked in our members to bear fruit for death.6 But now we are released from the law, dead to what held us captive, so that we may serve in the newness of the spirit and not under the obsolete letter.The New American Bible :Note: The Law was known first then Christ revealed then the Law became Obsolete.

Did those Paul was speaking to already understand repentance, sin and the law? In our post-modern world I often find the simple ABC plan of salvation in churches without an explanation of what sin really us.Can our post-modern world really repent with the use of the law, and an education of what sin is?Our culture of tolerance believes everything is pretty much OK, and that includes future destiny and lifestyle. I struggle with how to explain the Gospel, and what tracts to hand out. I struggle with this issue often. I am always lead back to the Bible.

Sounds pretty much like the Greeks Paul was preaching to in Acts 17.

Did those Paul was speaking to already understand repentance, sin and the law? In our post-modern world I often find the simple ABC plan of salvation in churches without an explanation of what sin really us.THANK YOU!!!You have exactly stated the main problem with sooo many "Christians" today. I've seen people who can recite the "plan of salvation" and say "yes, I belive that," but are obviously (you can tell just by looking at their life, their priorities, their blatant sins) not born again. The common theme is that they have no concept at all of what sin is. So many are teaching that sin is poor self-esteem or not having enough faith to get healed, or so much other nonsense. But even amongst the evangelical community, we get a definition of sin sometimes that is something like "going against God's plan for you life" which I guess is techinically true, but it's so vague that it can mean whatever you want it to mean. I've actually heard someone say "well, I married the wrong person and that was my sin, so now divorcing him is repentence."Which, as a side note, is the reason I love Ray Comfort's evangelism and tracts so much. There are a couple things I disagree with him about (mostly minor points actually - hmmm... now that I think about it, I can only think of one, but that's irrelevant anyway), but he more than makes up for that by actually showing people what their sins are. Most tracts will tell you all about Jesus, and then give the plan of salvation with the first step as "admit you're a sinner." That's true, but what's a sinner? I've seen people listen to some of these messages/tracts who are not saved and end up feeling more comfortable after that because they already "believe" those things.