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romanchog Jan 23, 2013

First I want to thank you all who have prayed for me while my husband was sick, and who contiue to pray and offer assistance since he passed away.

I come again to bother you and ask for more prayer.

I feel like I want to die.

After an encounter with someone yesterday, I realized that there will be no one on this earth who will love me or take care of me like my husband did. Everyone has their own agenda and are not truly interested in supporting me.

I feel alone.

I have no family emotional support and no church family either. I was dedicated to my husband and my children and never established any close friendships with anyone because I simply did not have the time. I have no one to lean on and no one to lift me up.

Already someone who my husband loved as a brother and I thought was going to be looking out for me has tried to defraud me. Fortunately, the Lord permitted me to find out about it.

I KNOW that God is good. I am trying to run to Him, but I can't even seem to crawl.

I tried to read the Word today, but don't even know what to read. I sat there with my Bible (actually my husband's bible, which is annotated by him) and flipped through the pages trying to find something that would speak to my Spirit.

I know that my husband would tell me, as does the Word, live in light of eternity. Right now I can't seem to get there. Eternity seems so far away, and life and troubles here are so pressing. I am so sick of this world.

I have my children whom I must live for. It is the only reason I get up in the morning, the only reason I cook, look for work, etc. This life seems to me so meaningless.

And I KNOW (though I don't feel) that my God has a purpose in all this. I just wonder what it could be. I have suffered almost constantly for the last 5 years with prodigal children, being accused by them of not even being their mother (not literally) even though I poured out my life for them, rejection from my parents and my siblings, the death of my father (unsaved). And now the Lord chooses to take my only friend and counselor. I don't understand why God thinks I need to suffer so much. Is there so much evil in me that needs to be cleansed?

I have sought always to live for Him.

Please God forgive me if I am sinning. I am not trying to judge You for I KNOW (even though I don't feel it) that You are Good. I need Your presence, I need to FEEL that You are with me, I need to HEAR Your voice so that I know where to go and what to do. Please LORd sustain me and give me strength for this journey.

sermonindex Jan 23, 2013

After an encounter with someone yesterday, I realized that there will be no one on this earth who will love me or take care of me like my husband did. Everyone has their own agenda and are not truly interested in supporting me.

It is truly distressing to hear of your encounter Sister, it is also good to know that the Lord kept you in it. Vengeance is Mine saith the Lord, I will repay. That man will soon know well enough in his own body where the mind of God is in these things.

Sister has not the Lord Himself set before you an opportunity to overcome all of your present difficulties by accepting that which is already freely given, and more besides if it please God? Understanding the pain of loss and the provocation which it has made lies at the heart of GodÂ’ healing power. Who but the Lord could raise up a thief in order to demonstrate the righteousness of God, to the fearful soul? Our trust must be the Lord Himself. In that knowledge we are kept and in that keeping we will prosper and come into unfathomable grace to overcome and to be at peace. From such a mind of trust even Satan himself cannot harm us or challenge our confidence in God.

In a mind of understanding that you are truly afraid to trust beyond that which you have learned, especially in the last year or so, it is impossible to e-mail you privately again. I just ask you Sister to consider the sovereignty of God and what a fearful thing it is to fall into His hands for the man or woman who sets a trap for those who are at the centre of His concern. I also comprehend that because you are presently unable to hear the Lord for yourself, you have no basis for trusting anyone beyond that which forms part of your husbands heritage. Hence the man who proved untrustworthy. The hand of the stranger will prove more difficult but by GodÂ’ intention it will also prove more satisfying and make certain that it is God who receives the praise and thanks for His goodness and mercy.

In this confidence dear Sister, in Christ, may the Lord give you peace.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Jan 23, 2013

Hello sister,

My wife and I are praying for you. Although we have never experienced what you are going through and did not know your husband, we do hurt with you.

I tried sending an email (with my wife at my side), but I don't know if you received it. Is there some way by which others can send you a small gift or word of encouragement?

As a brother in the Lord, I would encourage you to seek Christian family members (if you have any) or a local body for which you can turn to during times of need. This is one of the important rolls of the local Church.

Please be encouraged, dear sister. You are in our prayers and I am confident that the Lord will guide you through this "valley of the shadow of death."

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dohzman Jan 23, 2013

please forgive me if I should write without knowledge of your situation.As I understand your request it seems as if you have lost your husband.Loss is always difficult and with that loss are a whole bunch of feelings and often times guilt. The grieving process can last for many years.You need to know that the Lord understands and gives us all permission to grieve. Throughout the whole of the bible the Lord's people have grieved over loss, during the times when you are grieving, simply invite Jesus to grieve with you.Don't place a time limit on this process since it's different for everyone.

Looking at circumstances can sometimes lead to condemnation and get us to second guess who we are in Christ Jesus...and I know its easy sometimes to just say look to Jesus when everything within us and in our circumstances tries to force us to look everywhere else, this can be a trap meant to depress us.Elijah of old was instructed to get plenty of rest and eat properly. That is a good place to start physically. Spiritually he was warmed by the fire (God's presence?) feed by an Angel(food for the journey ahead) and he rested in the Love of God who wasn't done with him yet(there remains a rest for the people of God.)

Guilt over not reading the Word of God can be like a slippery slope and cause one to be overwhelmed with the where do I start and eventually they just give up on starting at all.Here's an idea that may help you. Take the book of Proverbs and read the chapter that goes with the day of the month, say January 25th, you would read Proverbs ch 25, if you miss a day, no sweat, just pick up on the day of the month ...an example would be you read 25,26 and missed reading on the 27th and today is the 28th...just read for today...the 28th...leave the 27th behind..Use this to help you get started and if you have time do more reading as you can in the other books, considering your present state you may want to consider to the Psalms.

"Now than there is no condemnation ....."
Practically speaking if you "do" the next thing that needs done you'll be just fine, I speak about life in general.
I hope that you can find the strength to find fellow believers in your local area especially a woman's group where you can get the moral support as well as the spiritual support to help you. I have use an old saying that goes like this, "the banana that strays from the bunch get pealed". Find some other bananas to hang with that share your love for Jesus, who can help you emotionally and spiritually with thier friendship and prayers.

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romanchog Jan 23, 2013

ccchhhrrriiisss and Mr. Kelly:
Thank you for your kindness.

Yes, chris, I did receive your e-mail. I will respond to you privately.

None of my family members are walking with the Lord (they all belog to a cult). All of my husband's siblings are saved, but none (except one who lives abroad) has demonstrated that they understand the meaning of fellowship and support in all the years that I have known them. They do not mean badly; they are just self-centered as so many of us have been and are. It still hurts me though that they don't seem to show any interest in even finding out what my needs are or even in just showing emotional support. I am expected by them to just go along as if nothing happened, attending all the family events (which are worldly and never involve God in any way).

My husband has a very close relative who is a Christian who was closer to him than all his siblings. I had thought I could count on him and his wife, especially because he was so often an encouragement to my husband during his illness and prayed such deep meaningful prayers for him. My husband loved for this man to pray for him; it brought him peace. Alas, it will not be possible for me to count on him, since it was this person who I found out tried to defraud me. I don't really know how to handle this, whether I should confront him or just pretend I don't know about it. I have prayed to God for guidance. I don't think his wife is aware of what he had planned.

So I find myself alone. Of course, I have my 6 children at home. But I am supposed to be sustaining them, not the other way around. Thank be to God that they are doing okay and (up to now) are taking the death of their Dad very well. I know that a time will come when they will get hit by the reality of his absence and I pray that at that point I will have the strenth to help them.

I also have 3 prodigals, two adult daughters and a son. My son has tried to be supportive, and that I appreciate. My daughters I know in their own way have tried to "be there" for me, but their "help" causes me more grief. I am struggling also in that I am now alone in dealing with their rebelliousness and ungodliness, which I have to make sure do not contaminate my younger ones.

Right now I do not have the strength. I know that God will give me what I need, otherwise He would not have let this happen. I think of Job, who lost all his children on the same day, as well as his health and the support of his wife. And then his friends came and accused him. He also felt like dying and wished not to be born. I pray that I can have the faith of Job, who suffered more than I.

I just want this pain in my chest to go away that seems to take my breath away, the loneliness, the fear of the unknown, of making mistakes that will be hurtful to my children or to me.

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mama27 Jan 24, 2013

I am praying, Natalie....since I also have prodigals, I know the wrenching pain associated with it....I have not lost a husband, but I watched my mother become a widow at age 49, and heard her many times say how she had to be strong for my brother and myself. Sometimes the painful things in life DO just take your breath away....I too, know the feeling of what you "ought" to be doing, but you can barely crawl. It sounds way too simplistic, but I have had many times where I just cried, "Jesus....you will have to carry this, because I cannot".... I think it is WAY too soon to be expecting yourself to be feeling better. As someone else posted, grief - especially losing a spouse - can take years. Know that many here are praying and you are loved, though there's no way we can take the pain away....

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arkp Jan 24, 2013

romanchog,

I am sadden to hear your inner most turmoil. May you recieve confirmation of that which you seek in peace and in the presence of his spirit and truth.

By Charles Spurgeon

I like to open the Bible and pray, "Lord God, let the words leap off the page into my soul; make them vivid, powerful, and fresh to my heart."

"How are we to handle this sword of 'It is written'? First, with deepest reverence. Let every word that God has spoken be law and gospel to you. Never trifle with it; never try to evade its force or change its meaning. God speaks to you in this book as much as if he came to the top of Sinai and lifted up his voice with thunder.

I like to open the Bible and pray, 'Lord God, let the words leap off the page into my soul; make them vivid, powerful, and fresh to my heart.'"

Our Lord Himself felt the power of the Word. It was not so much the devil who felt the power of 'It is written" as Christ Himself. The manhood of Christ felt an awe of the Word of God, and so the Word became a power to Christ. To trifle with Scripture is to deprive yourself of its aid. Reverence it, and look up to God with devout gratitude for having given it to you.

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ginnyrose Jan 24, 2013

After Regina died I met a widow in a store and she asked me how I was doing. (Regina was our 25 YO daughter that died from a glioblastoma, was married and had two children.) I do not recall saying a whole lot but she said, "Just trust Jesus." Natalie, these words have come back and ministered to me more then anything else could. And it still does, "Just trust Jesus." Of course, it is not these words that bring comfort, it is the act of Trusting Jesus that does.

Natalie, there is no hope, no comfort that can ever surpass Jesus' comfort - no one. Just stay there by Him, take a hold of that door knob and rattle it until it opens. It will.

I know when our son-in-law was grieving over the loss of his wife, he would lie in bed and just cry with his children. Do not know how many crying sessions they had, but tears are normal and not to be shunned.

Yes, I know dealing with prodigals is very hard, so hard...I say it is worse then dealing with the death of a child...

God bless you and will continue to pray for you.

Sandra

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ginnyrose Jan 25, 2013

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" I don't understand why God thinks I need to suffer so much. Is there so much evil in me that needs to be cleansed?"
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Natalie, I know you are in deep grief...your security has had its props knocked out from under you. You are asking many serious questions and they are a result from the blessings you have enjoyed over many years.

You feel a need to know why God chose to remove your husband from your life and home. I doubt any human being can answer this question and least of all you.

For one thing, God is NOT punishing you. Death is a promise - was one made before you or me ever lived - it has been operational ever since Adam and Eve sinned. Only a couple people have escaped it and those that did how do you think others responded to their escape, being left?

You say your husband was a godly man - be thankful you experienced that. Being bereft of it makes you much more aware of how blessed you were, hence the grief. Not many wives can say that.

It is not because you have so much evil that God removed him from your home...let me share an important principle the LORD laid on my heart after he took Regina.

I used to wonder why he took a young mother who loved her children - she had a lot to live for...WHY? I used to think that this is one question I am going to ask God when I get to heaven, "WHY?" In time I came to realize God does not owe me an explanation at all. He is God and can jolly well do as he pleases without anyone else's permission! AND...by the time I will get to heaven it will not matter at all anyways, so I have decided to forgo that question when I get there.

ANOTHER...I believe each of God's children has a mission to fulfill on earth. When this mission is completed, God will take them home - to live beyond this time would be counterproductive. He/she could become a hindrance to God's work. True, I have no scripture to defend this position but I do believe this to be the case - the LORD impressed this upon my mind as I was dealing with grief.

If this person would live beyond God's intended purpose it could cause more grief then what his/her death would have caused had he/she died earlier. There are testimonies of people who were terminally ill who the LORD allowed to survive because of the demands of loved ones only to cause a LOT of grief to the family because they ended up living for the devil or their existence made life increasingly difficult for their loved ones.

Natalie, it is OK to weep...but know that when God calls his children home it was no accident but supervised by God himself.

You mentioned how you think your children are handling it well....just make double sure this is the case. They may see how it is effecting you and will refuse to divulge their own feelings to you because they do not want to burden you any further but they do need comfort and reassurance. They need you...

Praying for you...

Sandra

sermonindex Jan 29, 2013

Natalie. I'm sorry for all the things that happened to you. I'm not sure I can completely relate to how you feel. But I do know what it feels like "to want to die". I'm going through so many trials right now, I really would not mind if I got ran over by a truck today.

Here is the short version.

I'm a male younger professional who had a decent career. I was making a decent salary but I felt like I did not know Christ. After I got laid off, I had enough saved up, and a good financial cushion to start a company. God told me, don't start a company, knowing me is more important, forsake all and follow me. Seek the kingdom first and all these things shall be added. Do you trust me codek, how much do you really want to know me? How important am I to you. Don't you know that you are more important than sparrows and they are taken care of? Will you forsake all to follow me?

Here is a little background. God has NEVER come through in my life. I followed Him with all my heart and I got slaughtered for decades. I befriend the outcasts in high school including someone with down syndrome in his 30's. My friends would all make fun of me and say why did you bring that weirdo to church. Someone remarked "wow, you actually believe in God". This is very sad because she said this in a bible study. I guess no one else "actually believed in God". Another person once said to me "wow, you actually do what God tells you to do"(she was inferring that most christians talk the big talk but never actually do what Jesus commands) Following God completely ruined my life and I never got to know him. There was no purpose in all the stupid hardships I went through.

But like a moron, I thought to myself. Maybe I didn't try hard enough, I didn't literally give up everything before.

So I did what he asked, whoever this God was. I really tried to find God and I did as I was told. I gave up everything. I would go to church, do evangelism, feed the homeless, feed my fellow brothers, read the word, pray. All I did was seek Christ and serve my bros/sisters since 2009.

I wanted to find a job but God kept saying, don't worry God will provide. I was down to my last thousand dollars, on the brink of bankruptcy and God was nowhere to be seen. All of my so called friends who wept with me in prayer were nowhere to be found. They all deserted me. I was tricked by God into doing this and I regret it everyday. I was truly about to go bankrupt, I even applied for food stamps. Yet no one offered me donations or any help. A couple people thankfully gave me some good advice. But besides a few, most would "just pray for me". I learned a valuable lesson that day, you can't trust people, and even the most holy christians will not give you $100 to help you. One even ridiculed me on the phone telling me how stupid all of this was. This is really seeking after God, you put everything on the line, including your life, folks, it isn't stupid cause it is impractical.

I gave up on God, disobeyed him and found a job. I found temporary work but my boss was evil. He made us temp workers work a 24hour shift so he would look good. And he would threaten us if we reported him to the agency because he would not allow us to get paid for this overtime. I stood up to him and he found a reason to let me go. I then told God to shove it and started looking for another job. I had to move 6 hours away for this job. This wasn't answered prayer, this was me finding a job. Only this situation was even worse. The org I worked was evil beyond imagination and everyone was out to get each other. I couldn't handle the stress so I gained 35lbs in 3 months and had to go on disability. I lost 250k in savings, lost income, etc for the last couple of years to seek Christ, only to have all my friends and so called bro/sisters in christ abandon me and to be ridiculed for the most part on this forum.

None of these people on this thread could actually talk except for ginnyrose cause they don't know what it feels like to "willfully give up everything" for Christ to find him.

Instead of just offering token prayers, what you really need is money. Since, supposedly the people on this forum are such strong believers, I believe they should be willing to give even a small donation of some kind. I am about to go on food stamps again and don't have a job and used up everything and I got into a lot of credit card debt, but I can offer a 50 dollar donation for now because this is what you need along with prayer. It isn't much but this is all I can give right now. If I can find a job within the next month, I can assist further and even in greater amounts. If you need further donations, I am willing to assist in any way possible since I am unable to do a lot on my own but I'm gifted in the area of business somewhat, so I can help in other ways. Also, I can help you setup a paypal type account where people can more freely donate. I'm doing this because I don't think you currently have the experience or skillset to run your own company right now. And if I truly said that I follow Christ, how can I stand here and do nothing.

Isn't this what the church of acts did? And isn't this what we so lack in the church today? Aren't we suppose to be the hands and feet of Christ? How can we not even offer to you a small donation and say " we love each other as ourselves" Do we really "give to all who ask"

HOW ARE WE ANY DIFFERENT FROM THE WORLD? TO ME, WE ALL LOOK THE SAME.

I am so sick of christians who offer all these prayers yet don't give up anything for others while they are living decently. I don't have much of anything anymore but I offer you this because this is what Christ commands.

Please email me at codek1424@yahoo.com to further discuss.

disclaimer to scammers: i'm not stupid.

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jimp Jan 29, 2013

hi codex, it is hard for me to believe that God would tell someone today not to work if able. paul labored at his trade troughout his ministry and the bible says if you don't work you don't eat.that being said ;you cannot unscramble scrambled eggs and i respect your intent and will be praying for both of you.i live on 900.00 amo. and would have helped when i was working.jimp

sermonindex Jan 29, 2013

jimp, I respectfully have to say that you don't know what he said to me. This is what I heard and keep hearing for the last 3 years. He messed up everything in my life so I don't even have the will to find a job. I'm trying to get up but I can't. Don't you think I would just rather get a job, and get on with my life and stop complaining on sermonindex? Do you think I really don't want to find a job right now or before? Didn't I get two jobs before? Did I sit on my lazy ass this whole time? Do you think I really enjoy SUFFERING this much?

What do I have to gain by doing all of this? I have much to lose by doing this and I lost it all.

Tell that to Joni Earecksen Tada who was a quadriplegic since her teens and now has cancer. What did she do to deserve that?

How is what happened to Natalie, practical? Are you blaming her for needing a miracle in this situation? Are you saying that she is too lazy to get a job also? Is this her fault?

God does whatever he wants to do. How do you have all the answers yet everytime I say something, I'm being judgemental(kiros)?

Do you think God is always practical? God is anything but practical. How else does he show his power?

God also told Abraham to kill his own son, didn't he? Why would he tell Abraham, "you'll be the father of many nations" then wait til Sarah is 100 years old to have Isaac, then tell him to kill his own son? How is that practical?

How impractical was:
-story of wall of Jericho
-David defeating Goliath with 3 pebbles?
-All of Jesus's miracles
-countless other examples, a man of your experience knows this.

God loves doing things the roundabout, non-sensical, non-logical way. He likes drama.

If we did everything "practically", why would we need God.

In the old testament, why didn't God just let everything be done "practically"?

Aren't you judging me right now by saying that(remember your comments on kiros) in another thread. You're a hypocrite, jimp

I'm not asking everyone to monetarily contribute to Natalie but I find it hard to believe that NO ONE is able to help. And I'm not asking anyone to help me financially at all.

This shouldn't be "done as the spirit leads". If you profess faith in Christ, how is this not automatic.

I really wonder if you guys are really saved.

M

Miccah Jan 29, 2013

codek. You need a swift kick in the tail.

Your post was one of the most pathetic posts that I have read in a while. Since you do not take any Biblical advice that anyone will give, I will give you some Biblical advice mixed in with some worldly advice.

MAN UP! Stop blaming everything on everyone else but yourself. You created your own situation, now you do not like the outcome or the answer/non-answer that you received from the Lord.

To hear a "Christian" give such horrible advice to a grieving women is beyond reprehensible. What kind of man are you?

You are better off just throwing yourself at the feet of Jesus and begging for mercy...

Praying for you sister.

sermonindex Jan 29, 2013

Miccah, I should go to over to Wisconsin and and beat you to a pulp. You sit on your ass and all you say is a token "i'll pray for you" and have the audacity to criticize me? You won't give 2 dollars to help this lady.

What worldy advice? There is no such thing as worldly advice for a christian. What are you talking about, pharisee?

And I am not a Christian, I get rejected by God everyday yet I still seek him to the extent of losing it all to find him.
I am not saved. If I die today, I will go to hell. Do you understand my predicament? Do you know what kind of stress I'm under to be rejected by God everyday to the point I don't even know if this is real anymore because of hypocrites like you. Would you weep, would you hurt, would you shed a tear if I died and went to hell, Miccah?

I'm not gonna lie to her and say "oh, God will save you and I'll pray for you" when I see endless prayer requests go unanswered by a God that "sometimes" answers his prayer when he feels like it. Take a look at "miracles that follow the plow" section. This lady needs real help and I'm more than willing as an non-christian to help her unlike you. It's not lip service like most of you hypocrites who spend so much time arguing over who knows the bible more yet don't lift a finger to help the homeless or people dying out there.

It's because of idiot LIARS like you that I ended up in this situation. 3 years ago, all I heard was "don't worry codek, God will save the day. I'll pray for you". So I waited on God and NOTHING HAPPENED. I didn't want money, I wanted to meet God. I had the money and I gave it up in faith. God has never answered a prayer in my or anyone I know's life. But you want me to lie to her just so she could feel better? So you can say I prayed for a sister and so YOU can feel better? You evil Satanic piece of crap. You probably told me the same thing 3 years ago and probably forgot to pray for me and yet you didn't lift a finger to tangibly help me. Well, I'm not gonna give her that false hope and set her up for failure like all you pharisees.

How dare you say that I got into this mess myself? How do you know, Pharisee? I was following God's orders against my gut, instinct, and desire. I did this to find Christ. How dare you say I got into this myself. I did what I was instructed to do. Why would I do this on my own? What would be the rationale behind that? It was in direct obedience to what I thought God was saying and yet you ridicule me.

What have to done for Christ? What did you give up willingly to follow Christ? How have you suffered for him, Mr. Christian? Do you know what it feels like to want to die everyday?

You are one of the biggest hypocrites I've ever seen. I really should go over to wisconsin and beat you to a pulp.

What if Natalie waits on God for years and He doesn't show up like the thousands of prayers that go unanswered in "miracles that follow the plow". How do you know that God will answer her prayers? Can you guarantee it? And if you care so much, you can't give her a small donation, you cheap, stingy pharisee?

Prayer without action means NOTHING.

What have you done and why can't you give a small donation to Natalie?

J

jimp Jan 29, 2013

codex , i feel your pain and i know what it means to quit and follow God and to give until it is gone.i lived in many fine homes that i have owned and live in a dorm room with no kitchen and a shared bath.istill get joy over the monies that i gave away and give now.Jesus still is our source and the joy of the Lord is still my strength. remember what the star in fiddler on the roof said to God while he was going through his troubles"and we are you chosen people...would you choose someone else fore a while". it is possible that your greatest days are in front of you.that is my prayer for you.jimp

sermonindex Jan 29, 2013

jimp, sir. I really don't matter here. It's not about the suffering. The biggest reason I'm in agony is I gave up everything to find Christ. AND I DON'T HAVE CHRIST. That's the worst part. That's what I gave up everything to find, not wealth.

What angers me is that, so called christians everywhere who supposedly have felt the love of Christ and are saved cannot show love to others. All I hear is "I'll pray for you" with no action. Not everyone on sermonindex is struggling. Some are doing well.

That's why the church is dead and that's why you guys are ultimately stumbling blocks to people like me. I want to believe Christ but all I see is weak prayer, with no answered prayer, a God not willing to show up, a people who know the bible so well but do not know how to do the simplest things like loving other people and being transparent. This is not a dig on this forum but all christians I've seen in my life.

It's about doing the right thing and no one is. That's why I have to speak up cause NONE OF YOU WILL.

How can you just stand there and do nothing? How do you read Jesus's harsh words in the gospels and yet all that comes out of your mouth is "i'll pray for you" Maybe God wants you to actually give up something for one another instead of saying token meaningless prayers. Maybe that's why he doesn't answer your prayers cause you don't care about one another. Actually care. Isn't that what the church of Acts did?

Read the lyrics by Keith Green, Asleep in the light.

THIS IS ALL OF YOU ON THIS FORUM. You know God and his love yet you DON'T CARE ABOUT OTHERS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHamV1pfMJU

Do you see, do you see
All the people sinking down
Don't you care, don't you care
Are you gonna let them drown

How can you be so numb
Not to care if they come
You close your eyes
And pretend the job's done

"Oh bless me Lord, bless me Lord"
You know it's all I ever hear
No one aches, no one hurts
No one even sheds one tear

But He cries, He weeps, He bleeds
And He cares for your needs
And you just lay back
And keep soaking it in,
Oh, can't you see it's such a sin?

Cause He brings people to your door,
And you turn them away
As you smile and say,
"God bless you, be at peace"
And all heaven just weeps
Cause Jesus came to your door
You've left him out on the streets

Open up open up
And give yourself away
You see the need, you hear the cries
So how can you delay

God's calling and you're the one
But like Jonah you run
He's told you to speak
But you keep holding it in,
Oh can't you see it's such a sin?

The world is sleeping in the dark
That the church just can't fight
Cause it's asleep in the light
How can you be so dead
When you've been so well fed
Jesus rose from the grave
And you, you can't even get out of bed

Oh, Jesus rose from the dead
Come on, get out of your bed

How can you be so numb
Not to care if they come
You close your eyes
And pretend the job's done
You close your eyes
And pretend the job's done

Don't close your eyes
Don't pretend the jobs done
Come away, come away, come away with Me my love,
Come away, from this mess, come away with Me, my love.

Hey Mr. Christian, Miccah. are you willing to lay down your life for Natalie? Do you ache, do you hurt, do you shed a tear for Natalie? huh do you or are you okay with your token prayer.

The reason that none of the prayers in the miracles follow the plow section are unanswered is because you guys are suppose to be God's hands and feet and all you do is sit there and say token prayers because of you hardened, NUMB heart. Do you really think when I see you guys, I'm impressed and want to have Jesus to be cold, manipulative, numb fake christians with no actual REAL LOVE, like you guys? like you Miccah? When have you loved someone like yourself? What have you given up for others? You brood of vipers.

Who is willing to lay down there life for their brother?
Who???????????? No one on sermonindex. NONE. And all of you will have to answer for that one day. How can you call yourself a christian?

I don't see anyone and you guys are suppose to be experts at knowing Christ, SO HOW CAN I BELIEVE?

Where are the Keith Greens who actually did what they preached?

Keith Green - The Sheep And The Goats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix8ddosjg-k

Is it about token prayer in the above Keith Green video or what you "DO" to the least of them?

Who is willing to lay down there life for their brother?
Who???????????? If these things are impossible, why would Jesus say such harsh things, if it's not possible.

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Either Jesus was wrong and what he said in the gospels is impossible

OR

You guys are a bunch of advanced hypocrites who know the word yet don't know how to love one another as yourselves.

That's why there is a thread like this about superficial friendships at church. How many superficial friendships do we have on this forum? Do we really love each other on here like we love ourselves? Hell no. Cause if we did, we would do much more than token prayers.

https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=47972&forum=35&24

For example, Miccah, he will pray a token prayer for Natalie maybe a couple of times and he will forget her. He doesn't really care about what happens? He just wants to be polite.
That's why the church has such a bad reputation.

Miccah, DO SOMETHING. IF YOU REALLY CARE ABOUT NATALIE, DO SOMETHING

ALL OF US NEED TO HELP NATALIE WITH MORE THAN JUST A TOKEN PRAYER. DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW IT FEELS TO WANT TO DIE. I DO.

Cause He brings Natalie to your door,
And you turn her away
As you smile and say,
"God bless you, be at peace"
And all heaven just weeps
Cause Jesus came to your door
You've left him out on the streets

M

mama27 Jan 29, 2013

I don't have the time to read all of this thread which has turned into contention....but some of us HAVE done something beyond "just praying"....the Lord would just not have us to advertise it. Blessings...

M

MaryJane Jan 29, 2013

Natalie

I will be in prayer for you and have been. I was sorry to hear of the death of your dear husband. I know your heart is hurting and through these dark times it is indeed difficult to find HIM but HE is still there. Your husband knew that JESUS would be there for you and put his trust in HIM. I know it is difficult and the enemy would like to cause you to stumble but hold tight to the LORD and know HE loves you so much more then you can ever imagine.

God bless
maryjane

M

Miccah Jan 29, 2013

codek.

I meet men like you all the time. You are the worst kind that there is. Trying to lead struggling Christians away from Christ and into worldly thinking. As a Christian man, it is our (Christian men's) responsibility to protect each other from men like yourself.

Think what you want about me, it matters not. If you are looking for faults in me, I can give you 2 lifetimes worth of faults. If you are looking for me to boast on what I do, you will not recieve it.

Yet, Jesus is still Lord and His mercy extends even to the worst of us, including me.

I stand by everything that I said to you.

M

Miccah Jan 29, 2013

Sister. I appologize for hijacking your thread. I will not comment again to codek on here. Please forgive me.

Know that He is with you.