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richrock Apr 4, 2013

Does anyone have any helpful insights into what authority we have over the works of the enemy, the enemy himself, over demons - and also, how we would discern the difference between trials and oppression from the enemy?

Had a discussion with a Christian brother about this, but noticed no reference to scripture to support any claims. All it boiled down to was that nothing bad should happen to us, we need to take authority over the works of the enemy that come against us. However, the recent upheavals in work and home I would see as trials because they have caused me to seek God with more of my heart, to give it to Him and say, 'Your will be done on my life'.

My limited understanding is that all authority is given to Christ - Matt 28:18-20, and we are to be in Him to partake of, but not have, all authority.

Help!

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PaulWest Apr 4, 2013

Dear friend, this subject is near and dear to me and God in His grace has given me a certain measure of light in the area of spiritual warfare. I would be more than happy to share with you what I have learned. I can tell you that Satan and his forces were conclusively defeated on the cross 2000 years ago and if you are in Christ he cannot touch a hair on your head without God's permission.

All his weapons have been taken away. The way he gets to Christians today is through the mind, by presenting temptations to draw out the lusts of the flesh. This is why we are exhorted to walk in the Spirit and have the mind of Christ.

We have power over Satan in that all his advances can be resisted and overcome. And even if God allows him to harm us physically, we know it will ultimately work for our good. I can go into much greater detail but I am using a cell phone to type this. I have written two books at length that totally expose the designs of spiritual darkness and how to win total victory over all the world, flesh and devil through the grace of the New Covenant. I would be more than happy to share these with you and with anyone else who desires to know how to be set free from sin's power and demonic oppression.

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richrock Apr 4, 2013

I would certainly appreciate more information, if you want to email me it's in my profile.

I understand that resisting is our power, when we are submitted to God. But I guess the essential question is - is it biblical to proactively proclaim territory, or rebuke him over situations in our lives?

In my situation, I discerned it more as a trial, as the fruit of it is a change in my character as a Christian, relying on the strength of God to get me through a day, whatever that day may entail. My colleague sees it as a spiritual attack. Obviously we can't both be right in this situation - what he is rebuking and taking authority over could well be what God is teaching to say 'Trust Me'.

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PaulWest Apr 5, 2013

But I guess the essential question is - is it biblical to proactively proclaim territory, or rebuke him over situations in our lives?

Dear brother, in all things pertaining to doctrine and spiritual effort, I have found it most helpful to base my understandings off a four-fold evaluation: 1. Did Jesus do it? 2. Did Jesus teach it? 3. Did the apostles do it? 4. Did the apostles teach it? If it fails in all four categories, I will reject it, no matter who teaches it or does it. Do we ever see Jesus or the disciples "proclaiming territory" over demons? Or rebuking demons over situations in their own lives? It is true that Jesus told Satan to get behind Him when Peter attempted to frustrate God's plan through humanistic concern, but you'll notice upon careful reading that Jesus "turned and said to Peter" and not Satan. Both Jesus and Paul rebuked demons in their ministries - but these were in situations governing other people's lives. In others words, the demons were made manifest through others and dealt with by Jesus and Paul. The result was in the liberation of the person who was oppressed, blinded, or in sickness.

The Word of God actually brings an indictment against Christians who get too flippant and bossy with the powers of hell (Jude 1:9). Truthfully, I've never needed to rebuke a demon to get victory over some situation or trial which pertains to my own walk. For trials and temptations, I seek the power of grace through humility and the Spirit of Life in Christ elevates me above the obstacle and brings me to a position of overcoming. That is how we vanquish the designs of Satan in our own lives. But in the lives of others who do not have this kind of faith for grace, virtual dominion in Jesus' name over devils may be in order, as evidenced multiple times in scripture. The important thing to see is that the deliverance and unbinding should not be for ourselves, but for others. We should already be being led in triumph (II Cor. 2:14).

What do you think?

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richrock Apr 5, 2013

Brother,

Thank you for these words. In as much as we can guide by giving opinions, you have given me a principle. Do we indeed see Jesus or the apostles performing or recording such?

I will study this based on that principle. Foolish of me to forget that.

Let me spend the weekend in the Word, and I will see what it says to me afterwards.

I also had come to mind the seven sons of Sceva, who seem to have tried in their own strength and arrogance. The outcome was not what they desired to see!

Rich

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davidkeel Apr 5, 2013

I'm sorry Richrock I don't have a great deal of scriptures but what I have learnt goes along similar lines to Paul on the forum here.

Nothing in my christian life seemed to work for me. I mean the normal things like prayer, fasting, Bible reading to strengthen me or even faith. Because God wanted my heart not my good deeds.

One day on a train and completely fed up with being a Christian yo-yo and being disdained by believers I tried to forgive someone. I knew this shouldn't be a half hearted attempt so I decided that every time a wrong thought came to my mind about that person, I would forcefully reject those thoughts outright. I decided I would never have anger or hate for them again.
It wasn't easy but I got the victory, so much so that I met the person the following day and had no bad feelings towards them whatsoever. I count that as being miraculous.

God blessed me immensely for this and a lot of bad fortune I seemed to have in my life was changed. My cars would no longer wbreak down at the most unfortunate times for example.

Shortly after this I forgave my manager at work and a door was opened for me to leave that place for something better.

Years later I began to repent of everything that was wrong in my life. I didn't realise I could do this for a long time. It was a hard battle but the Lord blessed me so much and he was close to me every day from that time on.

That verse of scripture where it talks about no-one being able to snatch us out of Gods hand was quite a revelation to me. Prior to repenting I used to 'claim' all of those kinds of verses as being my inheritance. But when I saw what it really meant I understood it better.

John 10v27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.... I give them eternal life and they shall never perish .... no one can snatch them out of my hand.

Actually it's the word 'hear' in the first line of this verse which is crucial because it has a Greek meaning which means that you listen in order for you to obey that command.

So much so that other Bible translations of this verse change the word from 'hear' to 'listen'.

So it's obeying Gods word to us which is the important part here.

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twayneb Apr 5, 2013

I think what Bro. Paul has said is spot on. The enemy has already been defeated. His only real power against us is the power of deception. He is a liar and the father of lies. In that case, the real spiritual warfare in our personal lives is described in 2 Cor. 10:5-6. A born again believer has the authority and power through Christ to defeat any attack of the enemy in this realm. So if we are being defeated, it is because we are allowing ourselves to be defeated, perhaps through ignorance, apathy, inattention to the things of God, etc..

As far as rebuking demons, there is scriptural example of this every time a demon was cast out of a person. Jesus did it, and taught His disciples about it. The apostles did it. Sometimes the demon would be causing behavioral manifestations in the person, and sometimes the demon would be causing a physical manifestation of sickness or disease.

As far as demonic influence over regions goes, I do believe scripture teaches that this sometimes happens. That is what principalities, in my opinion, refers to. In speaking of Pergamos, Jesus said that it was where Satan's seat was. This indicates a Satanic power ruling over that city. However, I have never seen anything scripturally that indicates that we as believers are called to take any authority over these things or to "do battle" with them in an effort to pull them down. As a born again believer, these things have no power or authority over me. They have already been defeated, and their time of authority over these areas is short. I think the whole spiritual warfare movement got off in this area. I recall hearing about a group that went to ancient Ephasus to "pull down the principality of Diana of the Ephesians over that area". I honestly see it as a great waste of money and time based on error.

Had a discussion with a Christian brother about this, but noticed no reference to scripture to support any claims. All it boiled down to was that nothing bad should happen to us, we need to take authority over the works of the enemy that come against us. However, the recent upheavals in work and home I would see as trials because they have caused me to seek God with more of my heart, to give it to Him and say, 'Your will be done on my life'.

In saying all of this, I do realize that we often face very negative things in our lives that we think of as trials. I would question (or discern I guess) where these things come from.

Remember that we are told in 2 Cor. that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds. We are then told that our warfare is against imaginations, thoughts, and things that come against the knowledge of God. In Eph. 6 we are told that we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, power, and spiritual wickedness in high places. So the battle is in the spiritual realm.

The physical things that we face often have spiritual causes, but they often have "natural" causes as well, as a result of living in a sin cursed world. For example, we get sick. Sometimes that sickness is natural, the flu for example. Sometimes that sickness is spiritually motivated and is the result of someone being bound by, for example, a spirit of infirmity. But I would never say that a sickness comes from God. While I may turn more attentively to God as a result of that sickness, I do not believe it came from God for that purpose. For then, what would I do with the admonition to love my wife a Christ loved the church? Would I think it a Godly thing to intentionally expose my wife to disease in an attempt to make her turn to Christ? Sickness is a manifestation of original sin in the flesh of mankind. Through Adam's sin came sickness to the human race. I can open myself up to sickness through sin, or I can get sick simply because someone with the flu sneezed in my face.

But I would not make that same statement concerning things that I simply think are uncomfortable to whatever degree. For example, suppose I ignore God speaking to me about quitting my job and going another direction. I might have good reason to ignore him in my own mind, money issues, security, retirement, and a host of other "responsible" decisions. But my ignoring God causes me to step out of His grace for my life. Things go south and I lose my job. Perhaps God did say, "Ok, I will have to move you by turning your boss against you." I struggle to make ends meet. I lose my car and have to buy a junker. I lose my house and live in a small apartment. My family struggles to eat. Definitely not pleasant or easy on the flesh. Then, I turn to God and repent of my disobedience. I go His direction, step back into His blessing, and find my financial house coming back into order as His blessings flow. This might seem a great trial, but it is only some discomfort of my own doing.

However, if I am doing God's will, it is inevitable that Satan will come against me and that I will fight battles. Perhaps I obey and the enemy comes against me in the financial realm. I begin to struggle. But, knowing I am in God's will, I persevere, knowing I am fighting, not a financial war, but a spiritual war. I can resist the devil in my own life. I can, I believe, command Him to leave my finances alone. I can continue to stand in faith for my circumstances, but I need to be sure I am in God's will as a foundational basis for my faith.

I hope you see the distinction I am trying to make. I don't believe God sends evil things to try us. I do believe that any time we step out from under His grace, we open ourselves up to the enemy to do what he naturally does in all cases, steal, kill, and destroy. I do believe that God may ask us to step into situations that will be very hard on our flesh, that may lead to our death or martyrdom, but will advance His kingdom. God said that He would show Paul how great things he must suffer for the sake of the gospel. And he did. After all, what is my physical life? I do believe that Satan will come against us and that we can take authority over those things. I also believe that we need revelation of the Holy Spirit to discern the difference between these things so that we might react appropriately.

Hope that all makes sense.

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