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proudpapa Sep 29, 2013

My hope is built on nothing less
Than Jesus’ blood and righteousness;
I dare not trust the sweetest frame,
But wholly lean on Jesus’ name. Refrain:
On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand;
All other ground is sinking sand,
All other ground is sinking sand.

When darkness veils His lovely face,
I rest on His unchanging grace;
In every high and stormy gale,
My anchor holds within the veil.
His oath, His covenant, His blood
Support me in the whelming flood;
When all around my soul gives way,
He then is all my hope and stay.
When He shall come with trumpet sound,
Oh, may I then in Him be found;
Dressed in His righteousness alone,
Faultless to stand before the throne.


A book that many of us are familier with on SI. If I remember correctly was critical of this song. ( I believe this was the song)

recently the group that I fellowship with, are going through that book.

a good question was asked, after reading the critical statement in the book.

The question was, If we are not trusting in 'Jesus’ blood and righteousness' than what else is their to trust in our own righteousness ?

The question was a good one.

I do not have the book in front of me, so I am hesitant to give the name of the book or the name of the author, in the case that I am misunderstanding something.

If you are familer with the book and what I am referring to what are your thoughts ?

If you are not familer with what I am writing of, what is your opinion ? is the song some how endorseing cheap grace, I personally do not get that impression from the larics, but what are your thoughts ?

The first time I went through the book, I did not catch the part about being critical of this song, but ever since we went through that part as a group I have been disturbed by it, since so much of the rest of the book seemed full of good information

what is everyones thoughts ?

sermonindex Sep 30, 2013

One of my favorite hymns which reflects much of my own beliefs...........bro Frank

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Heydave Sep 30, 2013

One of my favourites too!

My hope can be built on nothing less than Christ.

Regarding cheap grace, I don't understand how that could be attributed to Jesus' blood. There is nothing cheap about that...when I think what He paid for me! Also there is nothing cheap in a life that 'wholly leans of Jesus name'. It will cost us everything.

Great song!

sermonindex Sep 30, 2013

Great hymn! Great words! Great truth! I hold to it, confess it. Believe it.

Bearmaster.

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proudpapa Sep 30, 2013

Everyone has expressed my thoughts about this song perfectly.

I will have to borrow the book that was critical of it, and make sure that indeed that, this was the song and specifically what it critically said about it, but I have been disturbed ever since we went through that part of the book.

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proudpapa Oct 13, 2013

The Solid Rock hymn was the hymn that was slandered, the book is : "The Kingdom That Turned the World Upside Down" by David Bercot p 22 :

Bercot speaking about the hymn writes :
"The only passage in Scripture that speaks of building on the rock instead of on the sinking sand is the passage ... from the sermon on the mount. Jesus made it absoulutly clear that the only way we can build on that rock is to do what He preached in that sermon. His grace is trully unchanging, but he extends it only to those who love and obey him.

Yet this popular hymn totally ignores the very words of Jesus and teaches instead that we build on the rock by simply trusting in Jesus grace and righteousness to cover us - regardless of how we live. And guess who most proffessing Christians choose to believe (1) Jesus Himself or (2) this hymn writer and others who preach a Gospel of easy - believism."

what is everyones thoughts about Bercots statements ?


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davidc Oct 13, 2013

Bercot writes

"His grace is truly unchanging, but he extends it only to those who love and obey him"

If that was really the case, we would all be lost.

2Ti 2:13 if we are unfaithful, *he* abides faithful, for he cannot deny himself.

David

sermonindex Oct 13, 2013

Bercott touches on some truth. If one believes that what Jesus did affords us the opportunity to live any way that we please, gives us a license to sin, then Bercott is right. I would argue that every genuine saint would recoil in horror at that notion, just like Paul did, and say " God forbid." Now those saints can sing with all their hearts " On Christ the Solid Rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand." His mistake is in thinking that if you believe that Christ did it all and on Him alone we stand before God then you will live a life that is not honoring to God. No, you can and will do both.

The very least every genuine saint can do is live out the life that is in them and that life is Christ. Now genuine saints will fall, of this there is no doubt, but then we have an advocate. The difference between the genuine saint is that he finds his advocate waiting for Him before the throne of grace as he comes seeking to be punished, the sinner, the recipient of cheap grace believe's they have an insurance policy, and they can live life in a state of perpetual indulgence. The saint is horrified when he falls, the sinner, the cheap grace recipient, the unregenerate , smiles smugly and takes comfort, false comfort in the notion that " he has that covered." God help him as he hears the words " depart from me ye workers of iniquity for I never knew you." It is the Cain and Abel syndrome. As always, you will know them by their fruit............bro Frank

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Elibeth Oct 13, 2013

Bro Papa,
I love the song,from deep within.

I was thinking that Mr.Bercot might not see 'Grace' in it's true meaning.,that
I believe ,there are many that do not see this Word as it is meant it to be,..it is .only God' mercy, if we can.

I really do believe this VERY IMPORTANT word has been distorted.
And that Satan would want it distorted.

If we see it as :
* The Devine influence upon the heart,and it's reflection in the life' ,

(The enableing power of the Holy Spirit drawing us)

Then it fit's this song perfectly.

Blessings,
elizabeth

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