The Gospel of John (The Movie) ...

At this time of the year i'll watch most of the movies depicting "The Greatest Story Ever Told" no matter how old, just to mouth along with the words of Jesus ... Three of my favorites are "I Am the ressurection and the life" ... "I Am the truth and the Life" ... And, "Lazurus come forth"! ...Well i saw a really impressive movie this Friday called ...The Gospel of John ...http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?id=1808509536&d=hv&cf=infoHas anyone else seen it, and what do you think?PS - It also has a third Interactive CD that's really informative ...

While the cinematics can't compete with Mel Gibson's movie, the story line blows the Passion away. I've seen it and I can't wait to get enough money to buy the movie and show it to my family.

Brother Jeremy,That's the same thing i thought ...i loved the way the Christ as "the son of man" came across in his humanity, but also because we know the Gospel we can pick up the actor's portrayal of just enough of the aura of Christ divinity ...At first i had thought to myself he sure says "I tell you the truth" a lot, but then it dawned on me that that was "Verily, Verily" ... The movie then took on a whole bigger meaning for me in that i then kept seeing Christ's continuous attempts to tell his detractors that he was in fact telling them the truth, but to their eternal dismay they just could not believe him ...Excellent story line! ... But of course you can't miss by staying that strict to the actual Gospel of John ... God is so good to us ... So good!

I liked that the script is the actual gospel of John - that is, there is no 'extra' dialog, and no missing dialog. The narration where there is no dialog is simply the text of John. With closed captioning turned on a person can read the whole gospel of John - no additions or subtractions! And I think that was it's greatest strength. I am no fan of the translation used either - but recognize that this particular translation was geared towards E.S.L. readers - which makes it a fair translation to use in the movie if the movie is going to be used evangelistically in other areas of the world (which it most likely will). I didn't like the hollywood jesus - you know, handsome, tall, and charismatic because of these features. I would rather they cast a man who fit was less impressive physically - someone who though unattractive could portray suffering, and power. Who was compelling, not because of any physical beauty, but perhaps because of the beauty of the message they were carrying. Sigh!Dan/\\/\\/\\

Huh!Well I'm sold... guess I'll run out and buy this movie tonight to see what y'all are talkin' about! :-)

About the outward appearance of Jesus...John was talking with Jesus, walking with Jesus, learning from Jesus, living with Jesus. He was the disciple who was loved by Jesus. And this man was even leaning on Jesus' bosom (John 13:23). He was that close with and to Jesus.When this same John meets Jesus Christ again at Patmos, something altogether different happens: "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead" (Revelation 1:17).In 1 John 3:2 it says that we will see Him like He is. Friends, when I will meet Jesus for the first time face-to-face, I won't be looking at the color of His hair or eyes, His length or His beard. I won't be listening to the kind of voice He has, His accent or the shoes He's wearing. I know that I will fall face down...and worship Him! "He is the sole expression of the glory of God, and He is the perfect imprint and very image of [God's] nature" (Hebrews 1:3)I'm not going to make myself an image of Christ in my mind. No image will do...for no image can reflect the perfect imprint and very image of God's nature! I meet something of Christ in true believers, I meet a lot of Christ in His word and through prayer...but I'm glad I don't have a big photo from Him hanging above my bed. "Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls." (1 Peter 1:8)"For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it." (Romans 8:25)

KrispyKrittr you wrote;"LOL... I could make a comment on that, but it would only spark another Bible version debate, and I dont want to do that here".BLESS YOU! ... BLESS YOU! ... BLESS YOU! ... :-D

Dez,A most profound post! ... This ones going in my SI ARCHIVE ...

Krispy, This thread is relying on your mercy ... :-P

Brother Karl,You wrote:"In this movie, Is Jesus viewed as a limp wristed sissy or is he strong and filled with passion when he is angry or is he just reading his lines"?i would have never recommended this movie if Jesus was portrayed as a "limp wristed sissy" ... i reject such renditions of Christ in paintings and especially in cinema and see them as a smear straight from the pit of hell to turn off the greater majority of men ... This is just my personal opinion but when i see paintings/drawings/etc. whether old or new where the artist oozes femininity in their depiction of our Savior i wonder about their own sexual orientation and whether their depiction of Christ is their own wishful thinking as justification of their own sinful inclinations ... i think that satan enjoys hinting a bit of homosexuality toward Christ regarding His empathy, compassion, and His nurturing relationship with the twelve, most notably John, as it's fairly effective in throwing up a red flag to most men's homophobia ... What satan is very afraid of is God's image creation coming to, and surrending under the truest definition of what a real man is ... The true scriptural depiction of Christ as the son of man, is exactly how every man (especially Christian) should wish to be defined ... But even we that are saved still often times define ourselves as men in our "old nature" terms and are in constant need of Holy Spirit's help in "renewing the spirit of our mind" to that definition in our "new nature" terms ... So no, i don't think this movie will offend your sensibilityas a man ... i hope you will rent/buy it and come back with a review ...You also wrote:"Why do religious people view the saints like some reed blowing in the wind or someone who is dressed in white all the time"?i think because folk period over idealize "saints" as someone otherworldly and they put them on pedestals that say the saints are exactly opposite of what everyday people are ... This too i think is a hellish deception in that we everyday folk are geared to think that who the saints were we can never get to because they were somehow special, and we're not ... But that's because we have a tendency to be blinded to their blunders, and only see their triumphs ... Both topics of which i've addressed i think are readily accepted of men because the former is a good excuse for men especially to reject Christ, and the latter is a good excuse for us all as to why we can't live holy ... Funny thing tho, no matter what media, no one ever seems to portray Peter out of his biblical character.

This is just my personal opinion but when I see paintings/drawings/etc. whether old or new where the artist oozes femininity in their depiction of our Savior i wonder about their own sexual orientation and whether their depiction of Christ is their own wishful thinking as justification of their own sinful inclinations ... I have to say, when I start to surmise evil of others - that is, to imagine that they have sinful motives for anything that they are doing -based on my own bias, I usually check myself because I know that sort of thinking happens right at sin's doorway. We all agree that Christ - the King of glory - ought not to be depicted effeminately. By that, I mean: clean shaven; wearing jewelry, make-up, and woman's clothing; nor is their any reason to portray the king of Glory as being being soft and delicate in his mannerisms. I suspect that most actors play that sort of Jesus that they are most familiar with - and most actors who have portrayed Jesus are not evangelical Christians - therefore they portray the only Jesus they know - a Jesus that has been handed down to them, not through the bible, but through the cinema.Sadly though, some brothers in the Lord have determined exactly how long a godly man's hair should be - and the moment they spy someone who doesn't match their self imposed stereo type they charge the person with some sort of sexual perversion.I am not saying this is what you are doing - not at all. But your comment did remind me of people who do, so I thought I would comment.We all know that there is a way to wear one's hair effeminately - and it doesn't have to be long to do it either. But equating a particular length of hair with femininity is subjective at best. Dan/\\/\\/\\