Dr. Brown's just-written 420 page book Authentic Fire: A Response to John MacArthur's Strange Fire, is about to be printed and will be shipped to you in plenty of time for the Christmas holidays. It is yours postage paid for a suggested donation of $25. (The print version of the book is only available through AskDrBrown Ministries.)
http://www.lineoffireradio.com/2013/12/03/a-great-big-blind-spot/
Looks like a well documented response to some of the cessionist viewpoints offered at the recent strange fire conference. I am considering to get a copy.
I purchased a copy, looking forward to read it.
I have a feeling that this will only make things worser. Especially because it's an "response against another christian" book, I think that is not the answer. It would be better to pray, to work for the Lord in the power of the Spirit and to write a book titled "The Lord is still working" or anything.
The book sound like attacking dear brother... but I could be wrong.
Why always looking at the differences? Why not rewarding 'evil' with good?
I have a feeling that this will only make things worser. Especially because it's an "response against another christian" book, I think that is not the answer. It would be better to pray, to work for the Lord in the power of the Spirit and to write a book titled "The Lord is still working" or anything.The book sound like attacking dear brother... but I could be wrong.
Why always looking at the differences? Why not rewarding 'evil' with good?
You are making a very valid point. No man is 100% controlled by Holy Spirit, if he becomes so then he will completely be like Jesus. There is always some element of flesh in our work for the God. But that does not prevent God's spirit to be breathed into his work. For example when I share God's word in Church, I still find myself talking something out of my flesh. I know that clearly after I recap on what I spoke. But that does not mean the entire message is not from Spirit at all. Same way this book can certainly have some spiritual elements to it though the influence of Flesh is inevitable.
Quote: You are making a very valid point. No man is 100% controlled by Holy Spirit, if he becomes so then he will completely be like Jesus. There is always some element of flesh in our work for the God. But that does not prevent God's spirit to be breathed into his work. For example when I share God's word in Church, I still find myself talking something out of my flesh. I know that clearly after I recap on what I spoke. But that does not mean the entire message is not from Spirit at all. Same way this book can certainly have some spiritual elements to it though the influence of Flesh is inevitable.
I don't mean to turn the thread nor do I mean to cause offense, but with that mindset you'll end up computing that 'scripture' is fallible because of the 'influence of Flesh' eg a man wrote it.
So the man who wrote the book of Hebrews was he 100% controled by the Spirit? - Was he like Jesus or was there influence of Flesh as well.
Oh and I forgot one thing didn't Jesus come in the flesh or was his flesh some how different from ours?
Sorry but it's not logical...
I would direct the brethren to another of Dr. Michael L. Brown's books entitled "The Real Kosher Jesus". It was written in similar fashion, as a response to his life-long debating partner and friend Rabbi Shmuley Boteach's book "Kosher Jesus". Similar to his latest book, it was written and published in less than two and a half months from start to finish which caught my attention when I heard Brown speak about it, out of curiosity I purchased a copy. Without saying too much about it, you can find reviews online, I would say this is far from a reactionary book but rather one of the most important books every Christian should read, the hand of God is truly evident in this work. If you want to read the book and cant afford it, email me and I will send you a copy: a.roshkovski@gmail.com. I anticipate his new book will be similarly valuable to the Body of Christ.
I make my living writing logic, I know what is logical and what is not. What I have said there is true and I have explained it with my own example. All I was saying is a person who genuinely wants to serve God can add an element of flesh in it. I did not talk about Apostles who directly lived with Jesus and recorded their encounter with him as scripture. Nor Paul who went through persecution that most of the modern day Christians do not face and out of his experience he wrote letters to Churches. If you do not agree with me does not mean it is illogical. See things in context in which it is written instead of taking them out of context to bring down others.
Romans 12:3- For by the grace given me I say to every one of you: Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the faith God has distributed to each of you.
I'm sure Dr Brown's book will be excellent but in reality, the Bible says to be "a doer of the Word" and I, for one, want to be out 'doing' the word!! Sometimes we read to much, analyze too much when if fact we just need to be about the Father's business... but that is just me, I could be wrong!
God bless,
Lisa
I think God can provide his word using men subject/prone to stumbling, though the apostles became such spiritual men after being with Christ and after pentecost. later Paul rebuked Peter about "eating with gentiles/Jewish Law".
but Peter still was able to yield to the Spirit. right? I think Peter could write down 1 Peter and feel peace about having exactly what God led him to write in front of him, before he sent it out.
my thoughts
edit: eating with gentiles instead of circumcision
RE: Lysa
Probably the best comment I have read anywhere in a long time.
but Peter still was able to yield to the Spirit. right? I think Peter could write down 1 Peter and feel peace about having exactly what God led him to write in front of him, before he sent it out.
By flesh I did not mean sin or stumbling. Though a spirit filled man can still stumble (like Peter), that is not what I meant in my post. By Flesh I meant human intelligence. For example a speaker might be lead by Spirit to speak God's word as a sermon but there is a possibility of him to add certain things out of his own intelligence, which the spirit did not direct him to speak. What he spoke may not be wrong or sinful, may be truth but might be unwanted at that moment. I have experienced such thing myself and have witnessed the same from others. A Godly man who knows his limitation will always pray with fear and trembling that he does not speak of his own when given an opportunity. Apostle Paul preached with fear and trembling to gentiles so that Christ alone might be Glorified by what he spoke and not trust on his wisdom that he received under Gamaliel.
We cannot apply the same logic to scripture because first of all we all believe scripture is preserved by God though written by men.
I don't want to keep defending myself here. Please forgive me if my post hurt anyone. I think I defended myself too much which was again clear indication of pride in me. I have repented and put this topic to rest.
By flesh I did not mean sin or stumbling. Though a spirit filled man can still stumble (like Peter), that is not what I meant in my post. By Flesh I meant human intelligence.
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