The Call to be Martyred

What will happen if persecution comes to America? Are the stories of death camps, box cars with shackles, and guillotines true? Will I be one of those rounded up in the predawn hours of the morning by the forces of the the secret police? How will I respond? Will I be afraid?

The above questions can be dismissed as that posed by someone dwelling in paranoia. But the above questions are faced by believers daily in places like Samolia, Eritrea, and particularly N. Korea.

So how do these precious saints deal with the burden of living for Christ and dying for Him. The answer lies in knowing they are already dead in Christ. In places like N. Korea believers there make the choice they will die for Christ. They see themselves as marked for execution. Yet in doing so the church in N. Korea is growing in the midst of demonic darkness.

I read the average life expectancy of an evangelist in N. Korea is 3 to 6 months. Yet there are those who burn with a desire to take the gospel into the darkness of that nation. They do it realizing their lives will be short. But not fearing death they to it to bring life to people in demonic darkness. These evangelist choose to die for Christ.

If we will make that same choice. Choising to die for Christ. This being the true way to live for Him (Gal 2:20). If we realize that the devil has been rendered powerless and we are freed from the fear of death (Heb 2-14-15). Then we are victorious. We will be those martyred saints who overcome the devil by the blood if the Lamb, by the word of our testimony, and moving not our own lives even when faced with death (Rev 12:11).

Let us choose to die for Chtist. Let us accept the call to be martyred for Him. For such will be honored to reign with Jesus for a thousand years (Rev 20:4). Saints who accept this call will have no fear of the devil. Saints who accept this call will have no fear of death camps or guillotines. For this will be the triumphant persecuted church who crushes Satan under its heel.

For Him Who Was Slain,

Blaine Scogin

Amen dear brother. May we be bold for Him now. Make disciples now. Witness now.

To be a living martyr is not just to die for Christ but to die now to ambition and desires of the flesh and do the will of God now even though it means suffering.

Brother I agree. Paul writes to the Corithians that be is always being given over to death (2 Cor 4:12). And he also says that he dies daily (1 Cor 15:31). Of course his thought is incapsulated in Gal 2:20 when Paul is stating he is crucified with Christ and because he no longer lives in the fkesh Christ lives in him.

Indeed if we are dying to the tbings of this world by the cross of Christ. Then the guillotine or sword or firing squad or whatever instrument if death will not be a thing we fear.

Blaine

Brother Peter was not filled with the Spirit when he said he would die for Christ. Thus denying Him.

After being filled with the Spirit Peter boldly witnessed for Christ. Ultimately be was martyred for Christ outside of Rome. Tradition says he was crucified upside down.

The persecuted in hostile nations know that choice is already made for them. They know to follow Christ is death. Thus by the Spirit they make the choice to die for Christ. They are crucified by the cross of Chtist. Thus knowing they are already dead to Christ. The persecuted have no fear of martyrdom.

I night add, my brother, the choice is right before us also. Jesus said in Lk 9:23.that if anyone were to follow him they were to pick up their cross and die daily. Thus we are called to choose martyrdom.

Respectfully,

Blaine

Brother the exhortation to pray for government does not invalidate the call to martyrdom. There are countless testimonies of those martyred for Christ who faithfully prayed for their temporal governments.

However those martyred saints saw that their citizenship was in heaven and not on earth. For they were seeking a heavenly kingdom not an earthly one. I might add a kingdom that they were entering through trials and tribulations.

Respectfully,

Blaine

If you are not dying daily and living the crucified life then you will not die physically for Jesus.

Rom 8:36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

If we are serving sin then it does not matter how much we talk about martyrdom, as it will end up being only talk.

Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, THAT HENCEFORTH WE SHOULD NOT SERVE SIN.

as the Lord calls me, I appreciate your heart brother Blaine, brother Greg, brother Frank and all you posted on this thread....I see visions written of death camps in American, of us maintaining a "bold witness for Christ", of preparing to "die" for Him....but where do we live NOW?

think for a second, with the Mind of Christ, where we make abode right now...in America.

What is the state of the 'church' in America? how have a great many of our "luminaries" in the 'church' profaned Messiah?....they speak of fornicators and homosexuals with great flourish....and yet how many high profile hypocrites are exposed?....they speak of our "Judeo-Christian" foundations, as a sort litmus test to this idol called "patriotism", yet they what they really do is carry the water, for those who grease the wheels of a vast machine of military might and conquest that only exists to go the very areas some of you speak, NOT to preach Good News of Messiah Jesus, but to subjugate and make submit, other weaker nations, so they can TAKE their wealth, their gold.....and MOST importantly THEIR OIL....because this "oil" is what has made the merchants of the earth RICH.

these idolaters USE the "church" and these leading luminaries to sell the concept of "American exceptionalism"......they call themselves "Christian reconstructionist's"...or "dominionists"...they WANT a devilish form of theocracy, so that they rob and steal and subjugate on A GLOBAL BASIS....all the while using the Name of Messiah as their "covering"....

THIS is the spirit of Babylon!....and what is in the CUP of the Whore of Babylon?...its oil!!!....at the ROOT of every one of these countless hellish brushwars all over the globe ....is these merchants seeking HYDROCARBONS

are there any "accidents" in God?...no! that is why a VAST amount of this filth they so desperately desire lays under the lands of the sons of Ishmael.

I know I speak of worldly things, BUT these are the shadow of a vast cosmic battle between the Light and the dark. God is Light and in Him, there is no darkness.

there is nothing worse in His Eyes, than a hypocrite and a liar, and we have become a nation of hypocrites.....why is it just now, post 2008, that suddenly more of the Body has woken up, and seen JUST WHAT we have become?...is it because we've "elected" a president that many regard as a "muslim", or a "communist", or a "liberal"?

where were the voices in 2003, when we invaded Iraq?....even TODAY, we're NOT certain if 9/11 WAS AS ADVERTISED! I speak truth....and today, our legions are spread in COUNTLESS nations, subjugating and subverting...murdering innocents, women and children...is it any wonder, the people there....might just regard "missionaries" with a jaundiced eye" was it not Brother Andrew himself that prophesied, "if America invades Iraq, it will be close to impossible to preach the Word in the 10/40 window?....he SAID that...he warned us.

yet it seems to me, what invokes the main ire of some of the saints here, are homosexual marriages, the homosexual "agenda"...or homosexuals being ordained in these apostate "churches"...of course that's hideous and just filth...its the tip of the iceberg, its the canary in the coal mine....its an easy target...what are they REALLY going to do to you, you think an army of queer activists is going to come at night, gunned up and rip you out of your house for the death camps?

its the legions of Babylon who will...and woe, if they decide to dress Jesus in the American flag, construct a whore similar to the whore of rome and make some foul abomination called the "church of America", send forth "clergy response teams" to misuse Romans 13...and TELL YOU ...."SUBMIT!!!"

When I was pondering and praying to write this post, my soul took me to 705 BC, when that filth mob of assyrians surrounded Jerusalem, sent forth their emissaries to speak IN HEBREW, to demoralize the King Hezekiah's men on the walls....demanding they surrender and come out...."and yes, we'll spare your lives" (i'm paraphrasing...its one of favorite passages out of the Bible)

those men weren't demoralized....they KNEW possibly they could DIE, but they kept their position on the wall, and swords, and bows at the ready...this threat was conveyed to that good and Godly king Hezekiah, who spread it out before himself, humbled himself before God, and prayed....and who else was there to hear the Word of the LORD...the prophet Isaiah, who then told Hezekiah, the Word of the LORD, which that was He, Lord God of Hosts, was going to fight this battle....and God Almighty DID!

He blew that rabble and filth RIGHT BACK TO Nineveh

this to me, is a model for today, a Godly King, a Godly prophet, in fact the Prince of Prophets, who FORESAW Messiah...and the LORD Himself, Yahweh.

oh yes! amen....DIE TO SELF brethren!!!....but you stand on that wall like men! and have NOTHING to do with Babylon...its filthy anti-Christ provisions, and lies and hypocrisies....back slidden "denominations", 10 shekel and a shirt preachers, and all the other lies that tail along with that like afoul odor.

because its almost too late....i'm not sure...MAYBE, oh please Lord, we get one LAST "Josiah" revival.....but my heart tells me Judgment is coming and we get crushed, burned battered and broken.

I love you all in Jesus' love, and may His Grace, His Peace, His Mercy follow you all the days of your life, neil

brethren,

Do you know God like that?

were you asking that of me?...in regards to my post?

The key is for the objective work of Christ to become subjective.

THE OBJECTIVE AND SUBJECTIVE WORK OF CHRIST
By: James M. Campbell

The ground of salvation is in the historical Christ. His death for human sin is an accomplished fact, an objective reality, standing out on the canvas of history. In gospel preaching the objective side of things must be explained, for it is from the objective truth that the subjective experience comes.

If the outward revelation is discarded, inward experience withers and dies. Bushnell frankly admits that "any strictly subjective style of religion is vicious. It is moral self-culture, in fact, and not religion." Those who, like Origen, have tried to rise to a position in which they would become independent of the outward revelation, have in kicking away the ladder by which they have risen cut themselves off from connection with the solid facts upon which all experience must ultimately rest. The Christian grows in grace by growing in the knowledge of His Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He gathers strength by transmuting objective knowledge into subjective power.

Before the Atonement can attain its end, the objective gospel must produce certain subjective effects, and its historical facts become spiritual forces. The work which Christ has done for us must have as its counterpart a work that He does in us. His death for sin must become our death to sin. The life which He gave must be received; repose in what He has done must be connected with co-operation in what He is doing; the acceptance of His deliverance must be accompanied by the possession of His spirit. All that He did must be actualised in us.

Not the least service which the Protestant mystics have rendered to Christian truth, is the emphasis which they have put upon the subjective side of religion; although they have not always been careful to maintain the balance of truth by showing the relation which exists between objective fact and subjective experience.

"That man is no Christian," says Jacob Boehme, "who doth merely comfort himself with the suffering, death and satisfaction of Christ, and doth impute it to himself as a gift or favour, remaining himself still a wild beast and unregenerate. If this said sacrifice is to avail for me, it must be wrought in me."

To the same effect are the words of William Law, "Christ given for us is neither more nor less than Christ given unto us. He is in no other sense our full, perfect, and sufficient Atonement than as His nature and spirit are born and formed in us."

The Reformers sometimes went to the opposite extreme from the mystics, and unduly emphasised the objective side of things. In their zeal for the doctrine of justification by faith they did not develop in its fulness the doctrine of sanctification. One of the tasks which they have left the Christian teachers of today is to round out the conception of salvation, by showing the necessary and intimate relation between the objective and subjective elements in the Atonement of Christ; so that to the declaration of faith "Christ died for me," shall be joined the declaration of experience, "Christ liveth in me."

From: The Heart of the Gospel: A Popular Exposition of the Doctrine of the Atonement. Fleming H. Revell Co. 1907. Pgs 165-168.