Noah's ark would fall apart.

Good word. God could take care of the ark and all those in it, for it was God who told Noah to build the ark in the first place.

In Genesis 7:1, we see that God told Noah to come into the ark, and in verse 16, God shut him in.

Isaiah 66:1 tells us that heaven is God's throne and earth His footstool.

God's vastness is beyond our comprehension. Well, it is beyond mine.

God bless.

Both Noah's ark and Jonah's whale were assumed real by Jesus Himself.

But remember, waters don't part to reveal a path for men to walk, fire can't come down from heaven to consume an altar, no one could hit a giant in the face with a stone from a sling, women don't turn their heads and turn into salt...

What a ride we are on! What a God we serve! What's next in the the greatest adventure man could ever witness??

One time I heard a taped sermon wherein the speaker was describing the science in the size of the ark. He talked about the waves and how the size will make a difference how well it will float or whether it will break up. The point of the talk was how it demonstrated the engineering genius that is God's.

And....Noah was not a master boat builder, either. We do not read where he argued with God about anything concerning the building of this ship. Might be some important lessons there one can learn if we but look and Believe.

Ah, yes, God is just plain Good.

I certainly appreciate the sentiment of the original post.

But the Bible does not say that God supernaturally held the ark together while it was on the flood waters. It says that God gave Noah a design for a boat that took a hundred years to build and Noah obeyed and the ark stayed afloat.

I think God's design worked and I don't think He had to supernaturally hold it together. It's a minor point, but things that God could supernaturally do are infinite.

He could have placed Noah and his family in a little climate controlled house on Mars during the duration of the flood if he had wanted to do so.

I guess for some reason if a person accepts that God was supernaturally holding the ark together, then it means His original design failed.

That bugs me a tad, but maybe that's just me.

Got it-- I didn't read closely enough.

I certainly agree with everything you wrote!

After the Ham/Nye debate, my unbelieving friends at work asked about what I thought about Nye's point on the ark. I said that according to a "reasonable" man one would think that the ark would self destruct. But according to the all powerful Creator, nothing is "unreasonalbe."

Secondly two days later I was walking down a glass stair case where it went below grade. I looked up at a blanket of snow which was abou 15 inches deep. I saw that there were at least 10 different layers of snow that could be seen undisturbed. I realized that these layers were created in just two weeks here in central Pennsylvania. Of course this event spoke to Nye's "proof" of ice cap drilling which "proved" the earth was billions of years old.

Thirdly, contemplating Nye's position of man's ability through science to "predict" the future, this thought came to mind...we who know God know that the Scriptures predict what happens to those who reject God. We know what turmoil one goes through in one's life due to the spiritual influence of Satan. We know that those who call on the name of the Lord will learn a supernatural love of God that the "reasonable" man will never underatand. We can easily predict what happens to a nation of people who reject God. We can predict what happens to a nation of people who call out to God. The list goes on and on.

Those who receive the love of the truth will not be deceived like the "reasonable" man. A "reasonable" man can not decern spiritual things. A 'reasonalbe" man will not know the joy that comes to those who hear the Lord.

Rookie, I suppose you mentioned these points to your unbelieving friends - what was their reaction?

As I was reading your post my mind ran ahead how one can easily predict the outcome of a life lived in rebellion to God - wonder what they would say about it?

I am curious..:-)

ginnyrose wrote:

As I was reading your post my mind ran ahead how one can easily predict the outcome of a life lived in rebellion to God - wonder what they would say about it?

I work with tradesmen who belong to various unions, and many of these individuals are Catholic to one degree or another. So these individuals are entrenched in the "social justice gospel." They say that if Jesus were on earth today He would be a socialist. They look to the government by man to solve the financial injustice that exists in the world.

I explained to them the difference between a socialist and a follower of Christ. A socialist seeks to bring about change through the threat of violence. A true believer seeks to bring about change through love. A socialist seeks to "educate" the masses to accept the chains of satan. A true believer seeks to point to Jesus as the One who has changed his only life.

Being Catholic, most only know stories in the Bible. Most have never spent any time searching the Scriptures themselves. So I continue to draw contrast between the motivations of their heart and what the Scripture's teach. Their understanding of Christianity is a mixture of Scripture and the philosophies of men. One man sows another waters, but it is God who gives the increase.

Appolus began this thread pointing to the "increase" that is from God. This "increase" defines the difference between earthly religion and those who have been born of God. This world is full of earthly wisdom espoused by those like Nye the Science Guy, a reasonable man who lives without the Light.

I once read that Noah's ark cannot have floated that long as it was built according to biblical timeline before ironage. One needs iron to held the wood together. Without iron Noah could only tie the woods together which is not water proof.

When I read that I said 'praise God'. God did not place a challenge to Noah saying save your family by building a boat of that size if possible. He has already decided to save him and his family. The ark was only a test of obedience. Was Noah willing to obey god in an environment in which everyone around him had no reverence for God? Was he willing to be a laughing stock for his faith in God for bring rain which has never happened before? The answer to all this was yes, Noah was ready.

The floating of boat of that size without iron is a miracle just like how a sinful man like I can be confirmed to the image of perfect Christ one day. But just like Noah continuously built the ark without worrying a out whether it will float, I will continue following him without any doubt about being confirmed to his image.
Col 1:17 -And he is before all things, and in him all things hold together.

How could Noah's ark could be any different, it was also held together by Jesus.

Sree wrote:

"When I read that I said 'praise God'. God did not place a challenge to Noah saying save your family by building a boat of that size if possible. He has already decided to save him and his family. The ark was only a test of obedience. Was Noah willing to obey god in an environment in which everyone around him had no reverence for God? Was he willing to be a laughing stock for his faith in God for bring rain which has never happened before? The answer to all this was yes, Noah was ready."

Yes God saved Noah day by day for 120 years. God spoke to Noah and Noah did what God instructed. The path to build the ark was revealed day by day. And so the ark withstood the storm, because the Word of God was Noah's foundation. Noah and his family was saved by grace through faith. The ancient path still exists today, yet this world like in the days of Noah is growing more corrupt because the world rejects the Word of God.

Bill Nye's belief that a boat that size could not stay together is a very old and outdated argument.

They've discovered a different type of keel design in ancient large boats that would allow them to stay afloat, and even flex without breaking apart.

There is knowledge of giant barge like boats larger than football fields older than the Roman empire.

I always find these sort of conjectures vanity. The FACT is it didn't fall apart, but maybe I'm just being too simple in believing what is written in the record.

What is impossible for man is always possible for God. On the reverse side of this coin men said it was 'impossible' for the Titanic to sink!!

Edit: So I guess what I'm saying is I agree with Frank's original thought....mans view is too low.