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If You Own a Mortgage, Read This!

sermonindex Mar 1, 2014


First you must know that the federal government took America off the gold standard in1933, during a staged bankruptcy called the "Great Depression” and replaced the gold with an economic principle known as "Negotiable Debt Instruments." [YES, THE GREAT DEPRESSION WAS STAGED!] The government needed to create a catastrophe to implement standards that were designed to steal your possessions and God-given rights. The process of creating a catastrophe was discovered by behaviorists. Take away a person’s food, comfort and safety long enough and they won’t care or question the illusion provided, as long as their stomach is full, they have shelter, a comfortable bed and the means (real or imagined) to keep or continue their comfort. President Roosevelt unconstitutionally collected America’s gold by Executive Order and sold it to the Vatican by way of China to conceal its true ownership. The gold in Fort Knox belongs to the Vatican and not the United States. Absent a gold base, Commerce now essentially trades in "debts.” So if you borrowed money for a mortgage and there’s no gold or real value to support the paper called U. S. Currency, what did you actually borrow? Factually, you borrowed debt. The mortgage company committed the ultimate fraud against you because they loaned you nothing to pay off the imaginary balance, not even their own debt instruments. They then told you that you owe them the unpaid balance of your home and that you must pay them back, with interest, in monthly installments.

Here’s how they did it. At your closing, the mortgage company had you sign a "Promissory Note” in which you promised your sweat, your equity, full faith and credit against an unpaid balance. Then without your knowledge, the mortgage company sold your Promissory Note (your credit) to a warehousing institution such as Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. The warehousing institution uses your Promissory Note (your credit) as collateral and generates loans to other people and corporations, with interest. Collateral is essential to a corporation because corporations have no money or credit. They’re not real, they’re a fiction and require the sweat, the equity, the full faith and credit of living individuals to breathe and sustain the life of the corporation. Corporate Governments operate under the same principle. The warehousing institution makes money off the "Promissory Note” (your credit) and even though the profits made are nothing more than new Negotiable Debt Instruments, those instruments still have buying power in a Negotiable Debt Economy. These debt instruments are only negotiable because of the human ignorance of the American people and the human ignorance of people in other countries of the world, who have all been lied to, told this has value, and the people don’t know the difference. Did you ever give your permission to the mortgage company to sell your credit? So where is your cut of the profits? If the mortgage company invested nothing of their own in the purchase of your home, why are you making a monthly mortgage payments to them with interest? And where do they get off foreclosing on or against anyone or threatening to foreclose? They do it by fraud and the Masters and their Agents (the governments, the courts and the banks) all know it! Everything done to us and against us is about sustaining their lives, the lives of the corporate governments they command and to keep "We the People” under their complete control. They accomplish this control by taking away or threatening to take away your comfort and independence. They all use fraudulent means, disguised as law.

Note: When you applied for a mortgage, the mortgage company ran a credit check on you and if you had a blemish on your credit record, they charged you points (money) to ease their pain and lighten the risk (a credit risk) of their loaning you a mortgage. More Fraud! Why are you paying points, when they never loaned you a dime? The credit report is just another scam. If you have a high credit report, the government and banks identify you as an "Obedient Slave” and yet your "Promissory Note” sold for the same value as the "Promissory Note” endorsed by the man who is "a credit risk.” Credit didn’t matter. The fact that you are a living person is what matters!

More Fraud: The mortgage company maintains two sets of books regarding your mortgage payments. The local set of books is a record that they loaned you money and that you agreed to repay that money, with interest, each month. The second set of books is maintained in another State office, usually a bank because the mortgage companies usually sell your loan contract to a bank and agree to monitor the monthly payments in order to conceal the fraud. In the second set of books, your monthly mortgage payment is recorded by the bank as a savings deposit because there is no real loan. When you pay off the fraudulent mortgage, the bank waits 90 days and then submits a request to the IRS. The request states that: "Someone, unknown to this facility, deposited this money into our facility and has abandoned it. May we keep the deposit?” The IRS always gives their permission to the bank to keep the deposit and your hard-earned money just feathered the nest of the Rockefellers, Rothschilds and eleven other wealthy families in the world!


Equity Law, which once controlled America’s Corporate Courts, has been replaced with Admiralty/Maritime Law, pursuant to Title 28 of the United States Code and the Judiciary Act of 1789. This is the Law of Merchants and Sailors. Under Admiralty/Maritime Law, the courts presume you owe the mortgage or the tax or that you committed a crime defined as a Criminal Statute and it is your obligation to prove you’re innocent! This means, you’re guilty until you prove you’re innocent, which is the same standard and procedure used in a Military Court Martial. Haven’t we always been told that "You are innocent until proven guilty?” Lies, Lies and more Lies! We are not free men; we are slaves, and bound to our Masters by adhesion contracts and secret Trusts. The goal of the Masters and their agents, our elected officials, is to keep the people oppressed and subservient to them. As the Masters’ agents, they utilize propaganda techniques through government-controlled schools, churches, the media and mind control by force and or the threat of force through the courts and police enforcement. Police officers in America have been pumped full of more bullshit than a manure spreader and because of their trust, public school conditioning and training, they haven’t the ability to see what is going on. Many have been conditioned by previous military service not to think for themselves but just follow orders, which makes many of them as dangerous as a Terrorist! Now ask yourself - who are the real Terrorists in America? Guess what? The Constitution isn’t for the Police either, and still they are forced to swear an oath to defend it. The more regulations, statutes and codes created, and the greater the number of regulatory officers and agencies created to enforce them, the greater the Masters’ control over their slaves; and that is mind control by force and threat of force, by the very people we rely on, to protect and serve!
Facts:


1. The Federal Reserve Bank is a private banking system created by foreign interests. Call any branch for verification.

2. The Federal Reserve Bank is the sole creditor of the United States and the entire national debt is owed to the Federal Reserve Bank. Write your congressman for verification.

3. There are twelve member banks in this system and according to their bylaws (articles of association) they each have the power to act as depositary and fiscal agent (tax collector) of the United States.

4. Federal Reserve Board regulations and Generally Accepted Accounting Principles prohibit member banks within the Federal Reserve System from lending money from their own assets or from other depositors. Federal Reserve member banks do not make loans.

5. Bank customers fund their own mortgage transactions by signing a note. The note is the creation of currency that never existed before being signed by the customer.

6. Because the banks have monopolized the market on negotiable instruments, only banks will accept your promissory note. You can't buy groceries with a promissory note for example.

7. The practice of failing to disclose these facts in the mortgage agreement voids and nullifies the note because it violates 12 CFR 226.17(c)(1) of the Truth in Lending Law.

8. Unsecured debts assigned to debt collectors are not legally enforceable without the consent of the customer.

9. The banks must pay their customers back the entire value of each note and credit limit minus fees and interest.

10. These facts apply to both secured (e.g. mortgages, credit cards) and unsecured (e.g. credit card) accounts.

11. There are no disclosure or application requirements for a social security number. There are no penalties for refusing to disclose a social security number to anyone. 26 CFR 301.6109-1(c). This is a ruse perpetrated by the FDIC, Federal Reserve and insurance industry for the purpose of illegally monitoring American citizens.

12. The credit reporting system is the creation of the Federal Trade Commission. Its primary use is to collect and build information databases about Americans. It also provides an inexpensive means for banks to unfairly punish people and destroy reputations by subverting the legal requirements normally imposed upon them under the court system.


Extract From THE BANKER'S MANIFEST, for private circulation among leading bankers only. "Civil Servants' Year Book (The Organizer)" Jan 1934 & "New American" Feb 1934

"Capital must protect itself in every way, through combination and through legislation. Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people lose their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law, applied by the central power of wealth, under control of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capital to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd. Thus, by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been generally planned and successfully accomplished."

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newcenturion Mar 1, 2014

If you have been hanging around sovereign citizens, I recommend that you examine them and their motives. All of what you wrote sounds like it came straight from one of them. Beware of them. Our citizenship is of heaven and not the world.

sermonindex Mar 1, 2014

I don't even know any sovereign citizens. Do you?

And you are right, our citizenship comes from heaven. Do we understand what the implications of that statement are?

"Beware of them", is obviously a warning, but could you elaborate? I believe they are not all the same "flavor". Some are non-Christians and others are Christians and I don't mean the kind that would incite violence.

What is it about the sovereign citizens that are born-again Christians that we have to beware of? You will have to explain yourself and give some examples. A person who issues a warning would normally give an explanation.

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Sidewalk Mar 2, 2014

I know one, a professing Christian, a teacher of others in the murky world of debt, fraud, invisible conspirators, and a contempt for fools like me who don't buy in.

This individual removed himself from the "grid" years ago. He has been through multiple bankruptcies, has no driver license, no plates on his car- just the sovereign gobbledygook no patrolman wants to negotiate.

He may be right in all his assertions and he has no intention of giving them up, but I scan the people in his life that he has burned and deceived- I want no part of it.

I may live in a world of financial and criminal deception, but all I can control is the integrity in my own heart- seeking God to expose the wicked ways that lurk about seeking to take me in, and cultivating a lifestyle of love and generosity that wins souls to the claims of the Savior.

All the glory my "sovereign" friend believed would come to him has eluded him. He never was interested in anything I had to say anyway...

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

Yes, I see a lot of errors in the sovereign movement and I want no part of that. They have some truth but are using it in a reactionary way. You said it perfectly when you said, "but all I can control is the integrity in my own heart- seeking God to expose the wicked ways that lurk about seeking to take me in, and cultivating a lifestyle of love and generosity that wins souls to the claims of the Savior."

The Christian walk is a walk where God is constantly removing another layer of scales from our eyes. God cannot show us too much at one time (we couldn't handle it) and so He reveals Himself and His ways progressively to us. He just as much teaches us that in Exodus.

Exo_23:29 I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.

But at the same time, when He does give us revelation and uncovers the enemy in our land, He expects us to deal with the enemy and drive him out.

Num_33:55 But if ye will not drive out the inhabitants of the land from before you; then it shall come to pass, that those which ye let remain of them shall be pricks in your eyes, and thorns in your sides, and shall vex you in the land wherein ye dwell.

I want to be faithful to the Lord each time He reveals something new to me that I need to do or something I need to give attention to.

In my own life, my testimony is that God is giving me an alertness I have never had. It is another way of saying that He is mercifully waking me up. Is something on the horizon? Certainly Satan is always lurking about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. But, I am impressed in my spirit that something less personal and quite global is coming and the Church is asleep.

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JB1968 Mar 2, 2014

Sounds like a conspiracy theory. Just trust the Lord, He will carry us through.

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

Yes, there have been many conspiracies perpetuated not only against the people of America, but this world. Yet, God allows Satan to only go so far. And, I believe he will take care of those who trust in Him. Keep a low profile, stay under the radar and look like the other sheeple, even though you are not one of them.

No reason to be like the Sovereign individuals who test the courts, try to stop paying taxes, get rid of their social security number and birth certificate.

If you ever saw the Matrix you realized that it is a losing battle and if you do win, what was the cost?

Every time Neo and his friend went into the "make-believe" world, the "Mr. Smith's" unrelentlessly kept coming at them.

So, why try to beat the world's laws? They have hundreds of lawyers and the courts are rigged. You will end up losing more than you will win. Stay in your real world of living for the Lord, taking care of your family and preaching the gospel to the lost.

Jesus moved around His Roman occupied homeland very nicely. But the day came for Jesus that will come for many of us when the authorities of this world will come knocking on your door.

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

What is it about the sovereign citizens that are born-again Christians that we have to beware of? You will have to explain yourself and give some examples. A person who issues a warning would normally give an explanation.


Romans 13

Submission to Governing Authorities

13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

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JB1968 Mar 2, 2014

The best advice I would give concerning a mortgage is to pay it. Even then, if you do not pay your taxes you lose your property. But, we must remember that our citizenship is in heaven. We are only His stewards of what He gives us.

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ginnyrose Mar 2, 2014

I do not fully understand this article but this statement - "It also provides an inexpensive means for banks to unfairly punish people and destroy reputations by subverting the legal requirements normally imposed upon them under the court system" in #12 - caught my eye because of an experience we had back in the late 1990s.

My husband had ordered checks from a company in CO. They shipped them by FedEx and were stolen by an employee in Memphis who proceeded to write checks all over town. An alert employee at our bank caught it and they were returned to the cashing banks. We got affidavits from the bank, local police department attesting to our declaration that this was stolen property. We closed this account at the bank, opened another. Anyhow, what do you think this did to our credit record? My husband, bless his heart, could not write checks for a while in the city thirty miles north even though I could - and the forged checks were signed using my name.

Then there are companies who work to collect money on bounced checks and they get nasty - even after sending copies of the affidavits. They will still red flag your credit report.

The bright light in this experience was an alert bookkeeper at our bank who spotted this forgery thus preventing any monies being withdrawn from our account. But the check cashing/collecting companies were not so kind.

Yes, every time I read an article like this, being ignorant of a lot of the ways and means in the banking world, I just think one is better off using cash and living debt free as much as possible - keeping it simple.

My opinion.

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

I agree pay your taxes. They have hundreds of lawyers and unlimited taxpayer money to persecute and prosecute you.

Also Greg, compare Romans 13 in the KJV with any other translation.

Throughout history, oppressive regimes have tried to suppress or outlaw the Bible. In the "land of the free," the adversary is more devious. Bible paraphrases change the Truth of God into lies to support the State's agenda. (See Romans 1:25)

The words chosen are not Bible words, they are statists' words. The changes are subtle, but the effects are dramatic. For instance, in the Living Bible paraphrase of Romans 13, we are told that if we refuse to obey the "law of the land," we are refusing to obey God. This is just another clever means of persuading Christians to take up citizenship with the kingdoms of the world.

The Living Bible paraphrase also says "the policeman is sent by God to help you." Is this job of "policeman" created by and for Jesus Christ, or was it created for "other purposes?"

Today's policemen have become the "Kings" revenue collectors. They are no longer "peace officers" where their only concern used to be "keeping the peace" (making sure no one was disturbing the peace).

How out of control have things gotten by the statists and their rules and regulations, backed up by intimidation from police or national guard (remember Katrina)? You and I and everyone are the frog. Do we feel the water getting hotter or are we in denial? It feels pretty hot to me.

And it feels pretty hot to these people, too.

FDA Starts to Take Control of American Organic Farms
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/fda-starts-to-take-control-of-american-organic-farms/

CDC Caught Hiding Data Showing Mercury in Vaccines Linked to Autism
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/cdc-caught-hiding-data-showing-mercury-in-vaccines-linked-to-autism/

Mother Collapses in Court House After Daughter Put in Foster Care Over Medical Dispute
http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/mother-collapses-in-court-house-after-daughter-put-in-foster-care-over-medical-dispute/

Many Jews in Germany just before WWII did not feel the water getting hotter.

We have all been duped into thinking that everything the authorities are doing they are doing for our good.

Do you need a Marriage Certificate from the State? No. Check out what rights you give up when you accept the benefit and privilege of a Marriage Certificate.

Back to Romans 13. The world infiltrated the church with their own Bible "translators". They were no translators at all. We are believing Romans 13 the way the world wants us to believe it. Is it a sin to disobey the police? Well, you have to first answer if they are from God. Brother Andrew disobeyed Russian police and guards and deceived them when smuggling Bibles into Russia, knowing full well he was deceiving them and breaking their laws.

I don't know what each individual is supposed to do in every situation and I am not saying to be lawless. Christians are not lawless. We are definitely under the Law of Christ and God. But the authorities are lawless today and they want to turn it around on us and say that we are lawless when we refuse to comply with their lawless orders.

Check out this jogger who was arrested for jogging. Do we even know all the lawless laws being written every day? http://observer.com/2014/02/morning-glory-jogger-ticketed-for-crack-of-dawn-run-through-central-park/

Check out the Codex Alimentarius (Latin for Food Code): http://www.naturalnews.com/024128_CODEX_food_health.html#

How many of you will be disobeying the CODEX laws and growing your own food in your backyard?

How many here are not going to comply with Obamacare? How many here don't comply with certain laws because you deem them lawless? Be honest.

http://romans13.embassyofheaven.com/arepolicesentbygod.php

One other thing, the word MATRIX has been taken out of all the fraudulent Bibles. It appears 5 times in the KJV. Do a study on it. The State wants everyone born to be theirs not to be God's. Check out the implications of the Birth Certificate. There is little separation unto the Lord these days.

Yes, our battle is not against flesh and blood, we are in a spiritual battle that is coming through men. Everyone has their own "boiling point" where they draw a line in the sand and they won't cross it, and I don't judge anyone's convictions. For some it's Obamacare, others it is being told to shut down their free range pig farm (link provided above), or having their children kidnapped from them by the "authorities", etc, etc. Some fight it in court and are ruined, others are leaving the United States Corporation and going to Chile, Belize or some other place. But some, the Lord is leading them to stay right where they are at.

People just need to wake up and realize only the Lord has their best interests at heart. Never put any trust in man. Remember, every privilege, benefit, comfort you accept from the State, you are invariably giving up something to them.

Psa 118:8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.
Psa 118:9 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in princes.

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

Brother, I agree that we are "of" a kingdom that is not of this world and that we should handle loosely the things of this setting our minds above and our heart affecton on things above (Col 3:1-3). Yet even our Lord paid taxes to the authorities and never was rebellious to them. As Christians we should never undermine and go against the government unless they violate our beliefs as christians.

For government to be overtaxing americans is absolutely no reason to try and undermine them and speak evil of them. That is plainly wrong. To try and tie in Matrix to the bible from the modern movie is wrong also brother. I would suggest everyone never watch that movie it was made by wicked blasphemous men. We should live humble quiet lives in all godliness in the land. Sharing our faith and being an example to everyone of a godly life.

To watch shows like Glenn Beck just feed the conspiracy theories and also rebellious attitude to governments. Of course we should not agree with decisions of governments when they violate our beliefs such as homeschooling our children, etc. In the end we still need to obey the authorities. The early Christians obeyed the Roman authorities except at the point of worshipping Caeser and many became martyrs.

I do not see how you can see anything different in the King James Version:


Romans 13
King James Version (KJV)
13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

Hi Greg,

Off subject a bit, but I was wondering if SI was a 501(3)C organization. Has SI received any "privileges or benefits" from the government in any way?

And do you think Christians should obey all lawless laws?

What do you think of Brother Andrew's deception of the Russian authorities? There is a higher law, right?

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JB1968 Mar 2, 2014

What difference does it make? If you want to be a house church then be one. Just because our church is tax exempt, it does not mean we have submitted to the evil in the government. Think of it this way-our forefathers believed in the work of the church of Jesus Christ and the benefits it provides society, therefore they believed it should be tax exempt. What has spoiled it for many churches is when they become a country club (for example, gymns, restaurants, stores, multiple properties to rent out for an income thinking it will be tax free) instead of a servant of God to bless the world . In our state, the parsonage is taxed but the church building isn't.

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rainydaygirl Mar 2, 2014

Greg: For government to be overtaxing americans is absolutely no reason to try and undermine them and speak evil of them. That is plainly wrong. To try and tie in Matrix to the bible from the modern movie is wrong also brother. I would suggest everyone never watch that movie it was made by wicked blasphemous men.---

i know of some who watched this movie(the first one) and God spoke to their hearts as they watched. There is a lot of allegory in the first Matrix movie that the Lord might use to open the hearts of men. i know of one lady who specifically watched this movie(an edited version) and God just so spoke to her that she realized she was living a lie and wasn't really saved at all. she felt so convicted after that she began reading her Bible for deeper understanding and later repented of her sins and came to Christ after years of attending church. not saying that the movie will have that effect on all that watch it, or that it compares to the Bible but i wouldn't want to limit God in what He has done in the hearts of others who have seen it. Of course i do not recommend watching an unedited version of the movie but i have seen and know of to many who have had their eyes opened up to His truth after seeing that movie and their hearts begin to question what they thought was real relationship with Jesus.

now i realize my contribution was really off topic so i will let the thread continue on. just wanted to throw that out there in case others had encountered Jesus after the Lord used that movie as a catalyst in their lives.

rdg

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

Off subject a bit, but I was wondering if SI was a 501(3)C organization. Has SI received any "privileges or benefits" from the government in any way?

And do you think Christians should obey all lawless laws?

What do you think of Brother Andrew's deception of the Russian authorities? There is a higher law, right?

The Lord clearly spoke to my heart that SI should not be a non-profit or hvae 501(3)c status so we have not done this for the 12 years of the website by God's grace.


lawless laws

If the law goes against our morals and biblical commands then we should not obey, so if the gov't told someone to have a forced abortion etc we should not obey this. Otherwise the Sermon on the Mount is clear if someone asks for your shirt give him your coat as well. Meaning we need to allow ourselves to be used and abused to a measure for the sake of Christ and do it joyfully wish gives an occasion for testimony.



What do you think of Brother Andrew's deception of the Russian authorities? There is a higher law, right?

They never lied in smuggling bibles across the border, they just told them what they needed to. That is greatly different then trying to deceive the gov't over taxes because you feel you could, etc. And brother andrews organization is 501(3)c so you know brother.

The reason also brother I am interjecting into this discussion is that on the community guidelines we do not allow for conspiracy theories or conjectures about them, we find this ends in unhealthy divisions and conversations:

Let us go forward with meekness towards each other and having in mind the larger picture of the entire body of Christ. "I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought." (1 Corinthians 1:10). We have found that discussions pertaining to politics, conspiracy theories, calvinism/arminianism and others just produce strife and not the fruits of the Spirit so we ask saints not to start these discussion threads on SermonIndex

from: https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=44556&forum=13

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

I believe The Lord did tell you that. I'm sure you are thankful that you listened to Him.

sermonindex Mar 2, 2014

If the law goes against our morals and biblical commands then we should not obey, so if the gov't told someone to have a forced abortion etc we should not obey this. Otherwise the Sermon on the Mount is clear if someone asks for your shirt give him your coat as well. Meaning we need to allow ourselves to be used and abused to a measure for the sake of Christ and do it joyfully wish gives an occasion for testimony.

But brother, you must allow for other brothers to live according to their conscious, right? So, if a brother and sister are against getting a marriage certificate from the State, a birth certificate or SSN for their children, that is their choice. Correct? They should not be accused of undermining society or the government or being conspiracy theorists. It sounds strange to "normal" people at first until you look into the reasons why they do this. The Amish do that and they also own allodial lands not feudal lands. Their lands cannot be taxed with property tax. There is some wisdom to what the Amish have done, but many do need Christ. Well, many in Protestant churches need Christ to. If I buy land, I will surely look for allodial land but I think allodial laws only exist in Nevada and Texas, now.

This will explain allodial title for those who don't understand it. http://www.libertyforlife.com/law/law-allodial_title.htm

Going back to what you said about "morals and biblical commands", Jesus said you cannot serve two Masters.

Because of this I appeal to you to allow brothers to live according to their conscious and accept them and not label them with worldly names. I don't even do any of the things I have mentioned but I would accept as brothers those who because of conscience sake can't bring themselves to do many things that most of us find normal. I would not label them conspiracy theorists, either. I think that is a despicable way to marginalize a brother. It is self-evident that the world system conspires constantly to enslave and control their subjects more and more.

As far as I know I am at peace with everyone here and once again it is strange that you can bring up political subjects but others cannot. And I just want to bring to your attention that I was mostly bringing up American historical economic events. Some of these events are the District of Columbia Act of 1871, The Great Banking Act of 1933, The Social Security Act of 1935, The Patriot Act of 2001, The Affordable Care Act of 2010? Did Americans lose something with all of these Acts? They surely did. Do they know what they lost? Most do not.

Is there something wrong with Christians knowing what the ramifications of these acts were and how they affect their lives?

Is it wrong to understand history and think of the future? What will the Act or Law be called that prevents us from buying or selling?

I'm done for now and will take a sabbatical from SI.

I can't bring myself to just post political articles like you do, but not delve into them deeper.


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Sidewalk Mar 3, 2014

I hope your sabbatical is short. I for one am inspired by your cutting edge wisdom, your ability to examine things from outside the box, your considerable knowledge, and even some very sweet humility when you are cracking the whip...

I respect the anonymity you prefer as a SI poster, but can you give out any information of where you live?

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