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Denmark Now Forcing Pastors to Conduct Gay Weddings—Is America Next?

sermonindex Jun 13, 2014

In what could be a prophetic sign for the church at large, Denmark's parliament is forcing its will on the church.

A new law there now mandates that churches in the nation conduct gay marriages instead of short ceremonial blessings that some pastors have been performing up until now.

The new law does have one saving grace. Clergy can refuse to officiate the actual ceremony. Nevertheless, that bishop, pastor or priest is charged with arranging a replacement venue for the service.

Denmark has sanctioned gay civil unions since 1989. The nation legalized gay marriage in 2012.

from: http://www.charismanews.com/world/44275-denmark-now-forcing-pastors-to-conduct-gay-weddings-is-america-next

sermonindex Jun 13, 2014

This kind of move is made all the easier when the State church of Denmark is financially supported by the government and also their monarchy holds the " supreme position" within the church but not the head of it. Will this kind of move come to America? Without a doubt.............bro Frank

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Mangan Jun 14, 2014

Hmm! This law has been in practice in Sweden since 2009 so it is nothing new really.. However I think the law only pertains the Church of Denmark (i.e. the Lutheran Church) which is a State Church. To compare it US would be misleading though..

Magnus

sermonindex Jun 14, 2014

Mangan,

If the Supreme court were to pass a comprehensive law in regard to the legitimacy of homosexual marriage, then pastors and churches in every state would be open to charges of discrimination if they are approached by a homosexual couple to be married and refused. In that regard it is a good comparison............bro Frank

ps I believe that is exactly what is going to happen.

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Mangan Jun 14, 2014

What I meant by no comparison; was that the Church of Denmark is a State Church so what the government decides concerning the Church of Denmark is binding only for her. The law does not (as far as I understand it) pertain to other denominations (so called free churches) in Denmark..

In Sweden the parliament decided in 2009 to change the definition of marriage to gender neutral marriages (to include same-sex couples) but gave every denomination the right to choose themselves whether they wanted to conduct same-sex marriages or not. The Church of Sweden (the biggest denomination and the former State Church) decided to go the same way as the Church of Denmark recently did (i.e. to conduct same-sex marriages but give certain ministers the right to avoid conducting ceremonies as it violated their conscience and core beliefs.

It is more plausible that US will take the same path as Sweden has done. In other words: a redefinition of marriage and thereafter leave it up to the denominations to decide whether or not they shall conduct same-sex marriages.. It is a democratic process..

Magnus

sermonindex Jun 15, 2014

Magnus writes.....

"It is more plausible that US will take the same path as Sweden has done. In other words: a redefinition of marriage and thereafter leave it up to the denominations to decide whether or not they shall conduct same-sex marriages.. It is a democratic process."

If the Supreme Court ruled on Same sex marriage, their ruling would over-rule any individual State rule if they deemed it a matter of freedom and equality in regard to the Constitution. There would be no ability to decide denomination by denomination. It would be akin to the civil rights legislation in the 60s that struck down segregation nationally.............bro Frank

sermonindex Jun 15, 2014

Some of you might remember the following story:
"N.M. Supreme Court: Photographers Can't Refuse Gay Weddings"
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2013/august/nm-supreme-court-photographers-cant-refuse-gay-weddings.html?paging=off
So i think it is only a matter of time before pastors will have to go to court if they refuse to "marry" gay couples. Don't know which country will be next. In New Zealand it is now also legal for gay couples to "marry"
What we can be certain is that God's judgement will come which ever way!
Lord have mercy on us...

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Mangan Jun 15, 2014

Well, appolus, if that will be the case with the ruling of the Supreme Court in the US, then there is no comparison with either Denmark or Sweden as I stated above given the the democratic nature of the law in our Nordic countries.

In the worst case scenario I guess, all the denominations in the US who wants to be biblical have to give up their right to conduct legal and state sanctioned weddings and then to continue to conduct biblical weddings instead even if these are not valid in the eyes of the government..

Sincerely Magnus

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