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How do your Gospel Fellowships get unsaved people to attend?

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dolfan Jun 16, 2014

As we prepare to do this from our home, we are not settled in what to do in approaching invitations. Here is what we are praying:

Lord, please bring us to or bring to us a handful of people who have no experience with You, who do not profess to know You or to be Christian or born again or any other phrasing that implies relationship with You, who would be willing to sit for an hour or so in our home to discuss You and hear about You and enjoy a snack and a soft drink or sweet tea.

We could do any number of things, I suppose, to invite people. But, this is our last hope to do what God is doing unless He shows us something different. We are at the point of desperation that nothing matters EXCEPT God saving people truly, radically and utterly. No more games. No more pretense. No more of the mess that "church" is.

So, as my next question for those meeting in your homes, what did you do/have you done to begin?

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Lysa Jun 16, 2014


I would definitely trust the Lord to bring those He wants to bring to your home. Also, be careful to label who is saved and who is unsaved, the Lord knows those who are His and sometimes they don't look like "saved" people look!! :)

I was converted in a church that 1. ministered to the Lord AND 2. fed the sheep; they didn't cater to bringing in the lost, does that make sense? I mean the lost found their way there (when the Lord brought them b/c He brought me!) but their ministry was primarily to God and feeding God’s sheep.

They were a relatively small church and stayed small throughout the years because of their vision to serve the Lord and not man; but the people that this little country church in Podunk Indiana helped throughout the years was probably in the tens of thousands. The Lord told them they were like a weigh station for others to come & rest for awhile and then take what they received BACK to their churches.

God bless your endeavors for the Lord,
Lisa

PS: Also, on SI is a pdf by Watchman Nee: Ministry to the Lord
https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/articles/index.php?view=article&aid=6923

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dolfan Jun 16, 2014

I will read the Nee document and I appreciate the encouragement.

What we are not doing is simply being an outlet or alternate for the disaffected. We are not disaffected with church. We are fully invested in our local church, but there is a hole in what we are doing. Lost people are flooding by.

We have decided that our home is an outpost, an outreach station of our church. We already have three "members": my wife, our daughter and myself. There is no reason why lost people can't be faced in love with the truth of the gospel. We are simply not doing it.

We don't want to just give a place for saved people to be fed, although certainly as people are saved we want to feed and we will fully encourage them to be part of a larger local church, ours or another as they are led. But, the heartbreak and the mission are the unbelievers. If we cast nets on those waters and believers are "caught" then so be it and we will get them equipped and on board to grow and edify.

I am about to go home early from work and begin some space making in the garage. We will have it painted, get some furnishing in there and go forward. I had a trial set today, and I asked The Lord that, if in justice, the accuser of my client would not come could I go work on this. The accuser failed to show, the case was dismissed and I am about to head to the house. It is a compelling urge that my wife and I are just....spiritually unable in a way to resist.

Please pray for us to obey God. It is His glory that matters.

sermonindex Jun 16, 2014

We don't want to just give a place for saved people to be fed, although certainly as people are saved we want to feed and we will fully encourage them to be part of a larger local church, ours or another as they are led. But, the heartbreak and the mission are the unbelievers. If we cast nets on those waters and believers are "caught" then so be it and we will get them equipped and on board to grow and edify.

Praise God for the vision the Lord is giving you. You want those spiritually hunger that you can disciple feed and have them raised up to be witnesses to share with others. You want to see baptisms of people coming to the Lord not a holy huddle till Christ comes. There is a lost world and we need to be witnesses and lights. Do be open to a few other already saved believers helping only if they share the vision and will not put a damper on what you are doing.

Christianity is never perfect but it is growing. If we are not growing in numbers that is the great problem. If a tree stops producing fruit it is to be cut down. The by-product and purpose of fruit is SEED to produce OTHER trees.

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Lordoitagain Jun 16, 2014


Good question.

Our fellowship is in a home. I have tried to share my vision with our other brethren of "bringing it to where they are” as Jesus said:

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

I try to bring God’s word to where they are (in the store, at work … etc.), but if I feel led I tell them that we have weekly meetings in our home if they are interested or I can meet with them at their homes if they’d like. Invitations to "come and see” are scriptural … as Philip did with Nathanael:

Joh 1:45 Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him, We have found him, of whom Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write, Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.
Joh 1:46 And Nathanael said unto him, Can there any good thing come out of Nazareth? Philip saith unto him, Come and see.

Inviting (as Philip did) is one thing. Attempting to attract is another. Any earthly "bait” used other than simply informing that we meet to discuss God’s Word gets you into the mess of the modern church world.

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dolfan Jun 16, 2014

Lordoitagain, I hear you my friend. For years, we were part of a seeker model church, fully into the effort. I served as an elder there. It was the darkest time of my Christian life. We left it 7 years ago and never looked back. If you are going to live by gimmicks and attractions, you better be ready to always up the ante unless you are willing to lose people to someone else's bigger and better show, because that is all you are giving them. No baiting. Praying, telling, waiting.

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Lordoitagain Jun 16, 2014

The saddest part is looking back on the years that you spent in that fashion and the torn up lives strewn all over the universe that you had SO hoped to help in your misguided sincere efforts.

Even though the church that I was in wasn't into all of the modern big show gimmicks, its program was still misguided by the same types of earthly drawing tactics. After all of the rockathons, pizza dinners, recreations, camp outs ... in an effort to prove that "you can be a Christian and still have fun" and eventually hope to win them ... I look back and say: "where are they?" and that is a deeply disappointing heart breaking feeling.

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dolfan Jun 17, 2014

You know, Lordoitagain, you are so right. Not that we were sincere -- we were, but that is scary in itself -- but that lives were torn up and strewn. Just today, ironically, I was in a courtroom going over a jury list. There were two people in the jury pool from that church, one of them the pastor's daughter. Well, one of the pastors---I personally fired her father and we replaced him. That whole episode was attributable to what we were. All of us.

Another of the ladies from that church was in the pool; she and her husband are very wealthy and did all they could to buy their way into leadership. They didn't but they did leave and bought...no kidding....another church. Bought it. Put it in a new state of the art building with $250K in lights and sound equipment. THAT church showed R rated movie clips with profanity not edited out, the men drank beer on the premises, and FINALLY after 4 years of it the wealthy benefactors grew bored with it and left and sold the building out from under the church. The church just sold their stuff and moved into a rented movie theater.

There was a third lady from that old seeker church in court today, too, in a way. She was a relative of one of the people involved in the case I was working on. She died while we were still part of the seeker church. She was heavy on my mind this morning. She left a teenage daughter and two small sons and a lost husband. My wife and I once paid for the daughter to go to a leadership camp in middle school. After the mother died, we had done nothing to equip them. The daughter quit school and had an out of wedlock baby. They all ultimately moved back to the Midwest where they came to Alabama from. Lives strewn, torn is right.

The old seeker church we left is now a very large seeker church that openly baptized open lesbians. I personally know the ones they baptized. The leadership we provided gave a firm foundation for apostasy and reprobation. Oh, and the whole leadership team that we left eventually was overthrown by the folks there now. A real legacy of destruction.

We can't say we didn't know. We knew better. We just chose to ignore the truth and bought a really attractive lie. Church growth is like a narcotic.
It is also the most vacant mindset. I am thankful that God saved us, rescued us from it. The only consolation I have is that we were not good at it, personally. Somewhere in there I hope that was God's way of keeping us from doing even greater harm.

He is merciful.

sermonindex Jun 17, 2014

A brother not registered on the forums wanted to add into the conversation to help encourage he wrote:

" we understand we are ALL called in the "ministry of reconciliation" in whatever our own sphere of influence is. Whether that be blood family members, coworkers, neighbors, etc. Our job is preach the Gospel & tell the world what God has done for us in Christ! But the Gospel is always our focus. Not felt needs (though we are not to be insensitive) or what makes people have temporary comfort/relief, but exhort & encourage each other to focus on preaching the Gospel of Christ & Him crucified, the Power of God unto salvation. Apart from being Born Again, nothing else really matters. We are careful to remind each other that the call of the scriptures is clear: preach the Gospel & make disciples.
For one brother/elder whom The Lord appointed, His full time ministry is to the Body, & else wise on the street's preaching. Preaching wherever, but particularly here in the worst part of town, as The Lord has led. Where the prostitutes, drug dealers, gang members, etc. are. Not preaching "God hates the wicked", nor "it's ok to be just as you are", but that we all were vile, rebellious, & bound, but Christ set us free! We believed the Gospel & repented of our sins & He saved us, delivered us, & has made us sons by the spirit of adoption! But we must focus on the Gospel through & through! God chose the foolishness of preaching the Gospel to save men, & the work & results are all His: its only ours to be faithful! That elder brother preaches outside the welfare health & human services department 5 mornings a week as the line forms an hour before opening. One day each week, another brother goes with him & preaches, & another day, yet another brother."
-brother Jeff

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jujashan4 Jun 20, 2014

Thanks Greg and brother Jeff.

Dolfan with regard to your initial question.
From my understanding I don't think the primary idea of Gospel Fellowships are to invite unbelievers. They are for the meeting of believers under the headship of Christ.

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Sidewalk Jun 22, 2014

I tend to agree with jujushan4, that one's home would be a place to invite believers for prayer, worship, ministry, and discussion. Inviting unsaved strangers as a matter of policy would be difficult- though there will always be exceptions.

Interesting turn of a phrase, "through the foolishness of preaching." Preaching is so different from counselling, it is a simple proclamation of useful truth that the Holy Spirit is then able to direct at some individuals and not at others. He is given, through the preaching of a Word, an opportunity to burrow into hearts without the preacher really knowing what the Spirit is actually doing in a person. Some seed falls on rocks and bad soil, some on fertile ground. The Holy Spirit knows the difference, but He needs us to sow the seeds!

So it is the wisdom of God that preaching is the primary tool for reaching the lost, not counselling, not home fellowships. Preaching has to be done "out there" where they are. I guess that is why I am drawn to street preaching as the evangelistic method of choice, and reserve the sanctity of my home for believer fellowship.

Others will work this out in the individual ways God directs, and I don't want to criticize anything that works!

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AbideinHim Jun 23, 2014

"Lord, please bring us to or bring to us a handful of people who have no experience with You, who do not profess to know You or to be Christian or born again or any other phrasing that implies relationship with You, who would be willing to sit for an hour or so in our home to discuss You and hear about You and enjoy a snack and a soft drink or sweet tea."

Brother, since reading this post this morning, I have felt stirred in my spirit to tell you to do whatever God is leading you to do in these home meetings.

I believe that it is the Holy Spirit that is leading you to invite unbelievers into your home. The main thing is to start the meetings even though that it might be only you, your wife and daughter in the meeting. The Lord has promised that He would be there. "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." (Matthew 18:20).

There is no set way or format to follow to conduct home meetings. The main thing that you need is the presence of the Lord in your meetings. As you praise and worship the Lord, and His presence is manifest, the Holy Spirit is going to lead you and direct the meeting. He will lead you in the prayers that you are to pray, the scriptures that you are to read, and because it is the will of God to save the lost, He is going to show you how and where to cast out the net.

You are blessed brother because you have seen what man can do when he attempts to build the church with his own schemes and methods. Being desperate and hungry for God is a good thing, and He promises us that all those that hunger and thirst after righteousness shall be filled.

We will pray with you brother that God will lead you and direct you as you step out in faith to do His will. I was reading just the other day about the great prayer revival that started in New York among businessmen as one man started a prayer meeting in which the first day there were only a few that attended. I hope that the following account of this revival will be an encouragement to you.

"In 1857, the leadership of the Fulton Street Church in New York City saw a sharp decline in church attendance. They tapped Jeremiah Lanpher to lead the effort to reach the unchurched of the city. Lanpher was a former merchant with no formal theological training. He wasn't sure how to proceed, so he organized a noonday prayer meeting. He printed up notices and handed them to anyone who would take one. On the day of the meeting, Lanpher waited.

Jeremiah Lanpher announced he was a city missionary and there was going to be a prayer meeting. No one showed up and he began praying. Twenty minutes later he heard someone coming up the stairs and that first time maybe two or three joined him. The next time someone joined him and then the room was filled. And so he went from one room to two rooms to three rooms and he went to the church sanctuary.

In the following months, noonday prayer meetings sprung up all across the city. In fact, many factories blew the lunch whistle at 11:55 a.m., giving workers the chance to rush to the nearest church to pray for an hour. Churches of all denominations were filled with people praying on their lunch break. This caught the attention of the media.

The Layman's Prayer Revival had the motivation that we must pray one hour. Jesus said, 'Could you not tarry with me one hour?' And they wanted to go pray during their lunch hour so there was fasting and great prayer. The editor of the Herald Tribune was looking out of his window at a few minutes before twelve and he was shocked to see men running from their places of business, bumping into one another and within a minute they all disappeared into churches. And he said what's going on? So he sent a reporter down to see what it was and he said, 'they are all praying.'

The next day he got all of his reporters together, put them on horses to cover the whole city. They came and said there must be fifteen thousand people. So he began to write stories, and then before you know it, there were twenty-five thousand. The more stories he wrote the bigger the meeting got. And he put them on horse to cover the whole city and they came back and they said there must be about forty thousand men praying through the lunch hour. What's happening here? Because New York was center of the world at that time, all over America, in Cleveland, Chicago, Denver, Los Angeles, people would read the New York papers and then revival began to break out.

Prayer meetings organized by lay leadership spread like wildfire across the United States. By 1859, more than one million unchurched Americans were won to Christ. God was pouring out His spirit, preparing America for one of its darkest chapters in history.

The layman's prayer revival took place two years before the Civil War. And think of all of the thousands men who were slain and cut down in battle. The only positive thing we can say is that many of them knew the Savior before they went into that battle."

Mike

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dolfan Jun 23, 2014

AbideinHim, thank you for that.

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flameoffire Jun 23, 2014

In the Great Commission, Jesus said "Go" not "come." In other words, we are to go to them, not expecting them to come to us. Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. He was seeking them not asking them to seek God. He also left the 99 to go after the 1. He "left" to "go." While it is wonderful when the Holy Spirit draws unbelievers to our groups, New Testament practice is to go to them with the gospel, moving into their homes. Jesus taught this in Luke 9, Luke 10, and Matthew 10, which is really the model the apostle followed for evangelism and church/fellowship planting. We see through the rest of the gospels and the book of Acts that Jesus, the disciples, apostles, and Paul all went to where the lost were, proclaimed the gospel, and moved into the homes of those who received the message. I usually contextualize this approach with the simple question, "Can I come to your house and do a Bible study with you?" or "Can I come to your house and share another Bible story with you?" There are sundry reasons why their home is preferable to ours, though the number one reason is because it is the scriptural example. That said, it is certainly not wrong to invite them to your home.

When it comes to attracting unbelievers to fellowships, the only example is miracles. Crowds formed because Jesus and the church (Acts 5) were meeting needs through supernatural power. Jesus was different than our attractional models however because Jesus was highly mobile, in order to be a part of his fellowship you had to leave every thing and follow Him, and because His teaching was incredibly hard: either hard to understand or hard because it demanded ultimate commitment and surrender.

God bless you in the harvest brother. I pray everyday for laborers to go into the harvest, and I am encouraged by your heart and obedience to our Lord Jesus.

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dolfan Jun 23, 2014

flame,

It'll be fine with me to go to their houses. :) In fact, part of the heart desire is for the lost to be saved and spiritually reproduce spiritual sons and daughters. They can do that in their homes. To God that they would! I know my own daughter is formed by our home time, not merely by our church services (if i thought otherwise, I'd surely be fasting and repenting in sackcloth).

There is an entire swath of people who are being ignored by the church here in the Bible Belt. The one I am part of included. The rural poor are simply not urban enough to be on the hipness radar, are Balkanized past the point of any church growth or church planting movement caring about them, and/or in this part of America they are very incorrectly presumed to have a church background or influence. Either that or the church just doesn't care at all. There is more outreach on death row than in the cotton rows, if you know what I mean.

This serving and ministering we are crawling before God in prayer to do is not "come and see" as a means of outreach and evangelism. Oh, that may occur and praise God!, but if the churches that dot our countryside have not stopped to talk with and listen to these people, there is no reason why some family inside town should expect these poor folks to beat a path just because we say we are meeting to study the Word and pray and share. That is not where we are in this.

The thing that would break my heart is if we just formed a home based "huddle of the holy" instead of a maturing and sending family of Christians. If that is where we are headed, then I ask God to stop us. And have.

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flameoffire Jun 23, 2014

Awesome Dolfan!

The larger network I am a part of is deeply motivated by generational ministry (2 Tim 2:2), hoping to see four generations in everything that we do, disciples, churches, gifts etc. etc.

We encourage people to start groups with the lost which would lead to church formation or start groups with believers who desire to make disciples.

You have identified who to go to. I am praying right now that God empowers you to reach them.

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twayneb Jun 25, 2014

dolfan: The desire to see the lost won to the Lord is not necessarily synonymous with getting lost people to come through the doors of the place where you meet together as believers. We have seen several people born again in our fellowship over the last year. I cannot think of one of them that came as a result of any kind of "approach" to get people in the door. They came because someone ministered to them outside of the church walls. With the exception of one Easter service, we have not passed out invitations or canvassed the neighborhood. Instead, as a result of our witness outside of the walls, people have said, "I want to come to your church."

I know many churches have a very evangelistic focus in their preaching every week. I am not sure that this is healthy for a church. Weekly meetings are for the mutual edification and growth of the body so that the body can then do the work of the ministry. This is not to say that God will not lead in that direction occasionally, but I think that the bulk of our evangelism will be one on one as we live our lives.

My suggestion is that you begin to minister the gospel of Christ to those around you on a daily basis. Pray that God would lead you to someone in your sphere that needs the Lord. People are looking for truth and answers, and we have that truth and those answers. When these people turn to Christ and are born again, they will come in the doors of your church.

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