Man's 2 Problems: The Condemnation & Power of Sin
(God's Solution: Justification & Regeneration)
Some people explain it this way. You have two natur
es. It is as though you are
schizophrenic. According to Scripture there is onl
y one person who has ever had two
natures. That’s Jesus Christ. He had a divine natu
re, a human nature and one person.
The Bible doesn’t speak of two natures in the belie
ver. Ezekiel does not say, "I will put a
heart of flesh beside your heart of stone.” He doe
sn’t say, "I will put a new heart beside
your old heart and they two can fight.” He says, "
I’ll take out your old heart and I will
put in a new heart.”
Paul Washer
This is one of the doctrines that Paul Washer preaches that worries me as if you do not have a sinful nature then you have to live righteously perfect and so if a christian sins or does something wrong.
Verses that prove we have a sinful nature
Romans 8:1 KJV
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:4 KJV
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:5 KJV
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Romans 8:9 KJV
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Romans 8:13 KJV
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die : but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live .
1 Corinthians 5:5 KJV
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
2 Corinthians 7:1 KJV
Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Galatians 3:3 KJV
Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Galatians 4:29 KJV
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
Galatians 5:16 KJV
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:17 KJV
For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would .
Galatians 6:8 KJV
For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
Philippians 3:3 KJV
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Colossians 2:5 KJV
For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
This essay goes into it in a bit more depth
https://www.dbts.edu/journals/1997/nature.pdf
The reason is this doctrine affects all his other teaching as if you believe we have only one righteous nature then you have to live a morally perfect life which ends up in self righteous living. How can the new nature sin? It end up in a theological minefield , Courtship and Dating is scary. Does the new nature sin? You have to ask scary questions like that?
It is are passionate plea to actually analyse sometimes the hermanuetics or how passionate preachers use scripture.
When I was younger people always told me to read the bible even some false teachers and when you do. What ends up happening is alot of rheterotic on verses not actually backing verse by verse of what they believe.
Another doctrine that scares me about Paul Washer is Prepationism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preparationism
Acts 15:11 KJV
But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved , even as they.
Acts 16:31 KJV
And they said , Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved , and thy house.
Romans 10:9 KJV
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved .
DEEPER
Conference 2008 Breakout Session
(Living Waters & Way of the Master)
Living Waters
By Paul Washer
After I finished I went down. I said, "Sir, what is wrong with you? What is wrong?”
He pulled out a
manila
envelope and he j
ust showed it to me and he said, "I just came
from the doctor. I am going to die in three weeks.” He said, "I have lived out in the bush
working on a working cattle ranch all my life. You can only get there by riding over the
mountains or taking a float pl
ane or something like that.” He said, "I have never been to
a church in my life. I have never read a Bible. One time I heard someone talking about a
guy named Jesus and I do believe there is a God. I have never been afraid of anything in
my life and I am
afraid because I am going to die and I don’t know what to do.”
Now I said, "Sir,
for the last 45 minutes I have preached the gospel to you, the good news
of what God has done for sinners in Jesus Christ. Did you understand it?”
He said, "Yes.”
Now what
would have most evangelists done at that moment?
Would you like to pray and ask Jesus to come into your heart?
But this is what he said.
"Brother Paul, I understood it. I mean, anybody could have
understood it. But is that it? I
understand it now and I
pray a prayer and that is it?”
And I went and started explaining repentance and faith. And after several minutes he
looked at me and he says, "I just don’t get it.”
I said, "Look, you have three weeks to live. I have to leave tomorrow morning. I will
c
ancel my plane ticket and I will stay with you for three weeks until you die, either you
are saved or you die and go to hell. So let’s begin.”
Listen to me. If you are thinking about being an evangelist, don’t think you are going to
preach to a whole bunc
h of people when they come forward you pawn them off on
everyone else to do the counseling
and you go to Denny’s to eat and glory in all the
decisions most of which were just decisions and no one got converted because most of
those people won’t come back t
o church next Sunday
But I looked at that man and I said, "Sir, faith cometh by hearing. Let’s go through
Scripture.”
We went through
Scripture for over an hour, every promise, Old Testament, New
Testament on and on, just laboring until Christ be formed.
We prayed some more. We read some more, another hour goes on. It is getting late. I
said, "We are staying here. This man is dying.”
A
nd then after I don’t know how long we got back to one of my favorite verses in the
Bible, John 3:16. And I said, "Sir...”’
I will never forget because he had that Bible on his legs, my Bible and those big old
hands of his. And I said, "Sir, let’s just r
ead through this again.”
He said, "We have read through it so much.”
I said, "Sir, your life depends on it.”
And so he looked down, that
big old man and he goes, "Ok.”
"
For God so loved the world, that He gave
...”
10
Oh, oh. I am saved. I am saved. Al
l my sins are gone. I have... my hands are clean. I
have eternal life. Oh, my. I am going to heaven.
I said, "Sir, how do you know?”
He said, "Haven’t you ever read this verse before?”
[applause]
Do you see the difference?
People say, "Are you aga
inst evangelism?”
I say, "Yes and no. I am against your kind of evangelism. I hate it.”
That run men through, grab a little ticket just like you were waiting at some government
office for them to renew your license, grab a ticket and go to heaven.
We wi
ll be responsible. We are called upon. When I preach in meetings and people ...
this is what I do. I don’t give big altar calls and stuff. I say, "Look, it is over. If God is
dealing with your heart, you come to me. We will sit here all night
My problem is what if someone has got one minute to live would they have to go through a long process to be saved
Acts 16
27 And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open , he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled . 28 But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying , Do thyself no harm: for we are all here. 29 Then he called for a light, and sprang in , and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas, 30 And brought them out, and said , Sirs, what must I do to be saved ? 31 And they said , Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved , and thy house. 32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house. 33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes ; and was baptized , he and all his, straightway. 34 And when he had brought them into his house, he set meat before them , and rejoiced , believing in God with all his house
Is the philliphian jailer not saved because according to paul washer he would not be ?
Acts 8
29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near , and join thyself to this chariot. 30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said , Understandest thou what thou readest ? 31 And he said , How can I , except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. 32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer , so opened he not his mouth: 33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away : and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. 34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said , I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said , See , here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized ? 37 And Philip said , If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest . And he answered and said , I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still : and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip , that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing .
Is the eunuch not saved?
1 John 3:14 KJV
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.
Compare what the scriptures say
Luke 23:38-48
38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS. 39 And one of the malefactors which were hanged railed on him, saying , If thou be Christ, save thyself and us. 40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying , Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds : but this man hath done nothing amiss. 42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. 44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. 45 And the sun was darkened , and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst. 46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said , Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost . 47 Now when the centurion saw what was done , he glorified God, saying , Certainly this was a righteous man. 48 And all the people that came together to that sight, beholding the things which were done , smote their breasts, and returned .
Is the thief saved?
My problem is that his doctrines lead to a narcistic way of life as if you are constantly analysing whether you are saved because there is no fight against the old nature versus the new. There is no grace
1 John 1:7 KJV
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another , and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
He tends to quote verse 7 but not verse 8
1 John 1:8 KJV
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 2:1 KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin , we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 2:16 KJV
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Nor our battles against the world, the flesh and the devil
It just breaks my heart as people hear passionate preaching without actually thinking. I love passionate preaching.
What do they believe on the different doctrines such as man, escatology, sin and other things
As they have views but would it worthwhile to know what bias they are coming from and can they back it up with sciptural evidence
The reason this scares me and hurts me is some of his teaching on relationships as I find it mostly americanism such as with courtship, it does not best answer those from broken homes and loads them with laws and not the love of Christ. I have had to deal with some of the concequences of his teaching. As some teaching becomes practically not livable and I find that the bible is a practical book.
What we need to learn is that noone is beyond scruitiny or being tested against the scriptures, even me. I can be wrong. I am a mess and I need Jesus. I love Paul washer analysis but what is he giving as as cure. I find this so common. People love the analysis but what are they giving as a cure.
John 15:5 KJV
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing .
His view on scripture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqwb78d2Yr0