New Pope Vows to Work to Unify Christians

I don't know if you can directly associate Rev. 2:15 with Roman Catholicism, but Chapter 17 refers to V.4 the woman being arrayed in scarlet (the color the catholic cardinals wear) and purple (the color the catholic bishops wear) decked with gold and precious stone (the catholic church has more gold and stones than most countries of the world including the US). V.9 describes the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits (Rome sits on the top of seven mountains). The catholic church for years would not include the book of Revelation in their bible strictly because Chapter 17 pointed directly to Rome. Put that with your verse 6 below and you would be hard pressed to prove it was anything other than the Roman Catholic Church. Although, it is the political hierarchy of the catholic church it is referring to, not the local Catholics we associate with. There are a lot of true Christians in the catholic church that will be raptured before this comes into being.

What I find most interesting about this guy is that whenever the media mentions him they describe him as a "religious conservative"And that point has really been harped on by them. This guy's no religious conservative. He's just about as liberal as you can get in all the areas that matter. So he doesn't like rock music. Rock music won't get you to heaven OR take you to Hell, this man thinks that Muslims will be there though...and that is NOT a conservative belief!As I listened to the raidio today reporting that Benedict said he will follow JPII's steps toward ecumenism, all I kept hearing in my head is "The voice of one crying in the wilderness...Prepare ye the way!"This guy's preparing the way for DARN sure, for the last and most apostate pope in history. I'd bet my brand new house (which I haven't even moved INTO yet), that the next pope will be the last.

It just amazes me that there are some who just dont see this. It's frightening, in fact.Yes that's true, brother. It's a great encouragement to read this. I don't have any problems if people want to walk in red clothes or white clothes. I don't care. But I do care about the things they're preaching...And well, I had to think of Galatians this morning while speaking with my mom about this. The problem is, the people who try to justify the RCC say: "They also believe in the sacrifice of Jesus, that He died for our sins, to save us". Well, that may be true...but what about the Pope himself? What about his desire to "unite" all religions? What about him saying that the RCC is the only truth and way to salvation (poor me...I've always been thinking that Jesus Christ is the only Way to Heaven. But yeah, could it be that I have an outdated Bible? Could it be that the RCC died on a cross? Could it be that the RCC spilled her blood? Could it be that the RCC is the son of God? Wouldn't that be blasphemy? YES, it sure would and it sure is!) They're adding things friends! They're adding to the truth. And to add something to that which is perfect, is the definite end of the perfect! I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:7-9) The problem with the Church in Galatia was, that they were adding to the truth of Jesus Christ. Works, circumcission etc. God says: "let him be accursed". It makes me sad to see hundreds of young people, yellling and shouting and exalting a mortal man...People who are even confessing the name of Jesus with their lips. What a deception...Satan knows how to deceive...it's his core business. He uses all instruments...and false religion is definately one of his best! People: stick to the Book! And furthermore...stay close to Jesus! The Bible doesn't say that "whosoever found the perfect and true doctrine of the Bible, found life". It says: "For whoever finds ME, finds life" (Prov 8:35).Saved by grace only, through faith in the work and person of our blessed Savior, Jesus Christ!Paul

Angyl you wrote:"This guy's preparing the way for DARN sure, for the last and most apostate pope in history. I'd bet my brand new house (which I haven't even moved INTO yet), that the next pope will be the last" ...Out of curiosity (not judgment) on what do you base yourconclusion?

In the book of Nahum, God declares judgement on the city of Nineveh. Listen to this Scripture.This is what God finds against these people.Nah. 2:13 “Behold, I am against you,” says the LORD of hosts, “I will burn your chariots in smoke, and the sword shall devour your young lions; I will cut off your prey from the earth, and the voice of your messengers shall be heard no more.” 1 Woe to the bloody city!\tIt is all full of lies and robbery.\tIts victim never departs. 2 \tThe noise of a whip\tAnd the noise of rattling wheels,\tOf galloping horses,\tOf clattering chariots! 3 \tHorsemen charge with bright sword and glittering spear.\tThere is a multitude of slain,\tA great number of bodies,\tCountless corpses—\tThey stumble over the corpses— Now listen to who is responsible for this judgement.4 \tBecause of the multitude of harlotries of the seductive harlot,\tThe mistress of sorceries,\tWho sells nations through her harlotries,\tAnd families through her sorceries. 5 \t“Behold, I am against you,” says the LORD of hosts;\t“I will lift your skirts over your face,\tI will show the nations your nakedness,\tAnd the kingdoms your shame. 6 \tI will cast abominable filth upon you,\tMake you vile,\tAnd make you a spectacle. And also:15 \tThere the fire will devour you,\tThe sword will cut you off;\tIt will eat you up like a locust.\tMake yourself many—like the locust!\tMake yourself many— like the swarming locusts! 16 \tYou have multiplied your merchants more than the stars of heaven.\tThe locust plunders and flies away. The harlot lived long before the church age. There is much to learn of how the kings of the earth commit fornication with her. Why do the kings of the earth fornicate?In ChristJeff

You know the thing is that this is all doctrine and it's going to happen rather we like it or not, these things are all a part of God's plan for the world, so there is nothing we can do about this but try to reach the lost before this all comes to past. We probably should not condemn the actions of any of the world if this is God's plan, we might be condemning his plan "I personally would not want to do that" but I do want to be a part of helping people be aware of the happenings and helping them achieve salvation through Jesus Christ and if I can do that I think God will honor me for that.

Br. Bill wrote: V.9 describes the seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitsThere are also 7 continents. North America, South America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Austrailia, and Antarctica.This is in line with the fact that the kings of the earth commit fornication with her. In ChristJeff

KrispyKrittr wrote:

Hmmm... that had a slight Calvinistic bent to it... :-P Slight! that is about as pure Calvinism as you will ever see me write. :-P

Here is another example of the harlot and the spell she casts upon the kingdoms of this world. This time Scriptures speak of the city of Tyre. Is. 23:15 Now it shall come to pass in that day that Tyre will be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king. At the end of seventy years it will happen to Tyre as in the song of the harlot: 16 \t“Take a harp, go about the city,\tYou forgotten harlot;\tMake sweet melody, sing many songs,\tThat you may be remembered.” Is. 23:17 And it shall be, at the end of seventy years, that the LORD will deal with Tyre. She will return to her hire, and commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world on the face of the earth. 18 Her gain and her pay will be set apart for the LORD; it will not be treasured nor laid up, for her gain will be for those who dwell before the LORD, to eat sufficiently, and for fine clothing. So now we have two cities mentioned in Scripture: Ninevah and Tyre. The harlot is spiritual. Those who worship her do have a false religion.in ChristJeff

Here I believe is another example of the harlot being sent to a city in the land of Shinar. (Babylon)Zech. 5:5 Then the angel who talked with me came out and said to me, “Lift your eyes now, and see what this is that goes forth.” Zech. 5:6 So I asked, “What is it?” And he said, “It is a basket that is going forth.”He also said, “This is their resemblance throughout the earth: 7 Here is a lead disc lifted up, and this is a woman sitting inside the basket”; 8 then he said, “This is Wickedness!” And he thrust her down into the basket, and threw the lead cover over its mouth. 9 Then I raised my eyes and looked, and there were two women, coming with the wind in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven. Zech. 5:10 So I said to the angel who talked with me, “Where are they carrying the basket?” Zech. 5:11 And he said to me, “To build a house for it in the land of Shinar; when it is ready, the basket will be set there on its base.” Do you see that harlot exists long before the Catholic church?In ChristJeff

KrispyKrittr wrote:The message was clearly designed to show that Benedict was intent on following many of the groundbreaking paths charted by John Paul, who had made reaching out to other religions and trying to heal the 1,000-year-old schism in Christianity a hallmark of his pontificate.[/i]Has anyone listened to David WIlkerson's The Vision (circa 1973). Let's all just tick off another point on the list.