Is the SHEMITAH like Y2K happening again?

I was just introduced to Jonathan Cahn's Shemitah video and teachings just a few weeks ago...

I can remember 15-17 years ago the Y2K fear of "prepare" for the end of the world happening and it's happening again, where he predicts that the end of the world is going to happen this Sept 2015 (or around that date). I can't explain in this post the lengthy teaching he gives, but I'm trying to walk in a balance of God's truth, reality and not fear. It appears that many of his prophetic conclusions that he even gives from scripture points to the reality that "life in America" is going to change rapidly because of many reasons of this countries sins (Abortion, same-sex marriage, etc.)

Rabbi Cahn does share to us not to have fear, but to be aware and ready (by the end of this summer), but how, what does that look like? Has anybody been watching his teachings, videos, books and have some thoughts?

Thanks,
Doug

Not sure how to prepare for the end of the world.

The way I figure it is if I don't watch or listen to such teachings I won't be tempted to fear. So I avoid them like the plague.

Cahn's teaching does not propose anything outside of what Jesus said in terms of the conditions of the time of the end. (Not that I can tell, anyway.)

Cahn's teaching does propose a time frame. It is arguably outside of what Jesus said and arguably outside of what the Bible as a whole says. I'll let anyone else who cares to advocate in either direction on that. :)

Let's set aside Cahn, then. Let's see what the witness of God is here.

First, it is not for us to know the times and seasons that the Father has under His authority. Amen? Amen.

Second, Jesus spoke to His disciples -- and the apostles wrote sufficiently -- about the time of the end. Is there reason to believe we are in that time? Yes. Amen? Amen.

Third, is time the greatest enemy of the church in America? No. Time is not our greatest enemy. WE are our greatest enemy. We are the ones who in these times are lovers of self, etc. That warning of Paul in 2 Timothy 3 is a warning against our own hearts. It is a two millennia warning, not a two-minute warning. We are desperate not only because we believe time is short --- not even primarily because we believe time is short --- but because we have turned our backs on the Lord our God. We have substituted a pagan faith that is no faith at all and we stubbornly refuse to repent. We stubbornly refuse to warn about THAT.

Fourth, let's say Cahn is onto something. Maybe just a thread of accuracy to his thoughts on timing. The NT church suffered. Read 1 and 2 Peter again. Read Acts again. Read the Prison Epistles again. Read the stories of saints of God like Paul Bunyan or John Hess. Real suffering, but the real presence of God. There are martyrs today who testify of this real presence of God that helps them surpass fear. We should not be in fear even if Cahn is that blind squirrel who happens upon a nut, or even if Cahn is a direct recipient of illumination from the Holy Spirit.

In our fellowship at home, we are asking -- among a few other things on a very short list of specific prayer -- for God to baptize us in the Holy Spirit and fire again. To make us who He wants us to be. To raise up, too, a prophetic voice of warning to the spiritually darkened in our area. What warning? Shemitah? NO! A warning to repent and obey the gospel. A warning that judgment comes to everyone. A warning that cultural Baptists are not Baptists, that cultural Christians are not Christians, and that everyone needs to understand that they are made by a holy God who loves them but will not extend His kingdom to them now or forever if they do not come to Him on His terms, and that is through Jesus Christ.

Sorry --- I'm preaching now.

A warning, guys, that is not accompanied with our own tepid and timid hopes for the best --- but a warning that is accompanied with the Holy Ghost and fire and a power to endure the worst.

I was listening yesterday and today to Brian Long's message on the SI podcast about coming judgment and the need for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. He was sounding alarms, too, no doubt. Not Cahn's style of alarm, but the common alarm that most of us know to be needed that we are moving to the end of things. (I know not everyone agrees, but bear with me.) Alarms need sounding. But, if the alarm is just noise, who will gather for the battle? If we are without a new and living baptism in the Spirit, why do we even care if an alarm is sounded? If we are convinced in our hearts that an alarm is needed but we are only lip serving the brokenness and emptiness that can be filled with the Spirit of the living God, then we may be in worse shape than those who need that alarm!

So, Shemitah, Shlimazel, hossenpfeffer incorporated. (If anyone gets that joke, please give me a smiley. Otherwise, ignore that.) The Word of God says, "Be of good cheer. I have overcome the world." The Word says, "Fear not." The Word says, "I am with you always even TO the end of the age." Oh, God that you'll open our eyes and our hearts and ears and our whole faculties to our ongoing utter need for You and that You will fill us again for Your work in these days.

Tim, you get a smiley for that

:)

Where can I find Brian Long's message?

Brother Tim,
Well said sir and Amen!

:) from "Lenny and squiggy" ;)

The Brian Long sermon is on the SI podcast. It is probably on the app too. And I will guess you can find it under his name if search by speaker in the audio sermons. You can find it in his videos at brianlongpreaching dot com

Yes Marc but sincere and bible believing Christians have seen "the day" approaching for 2000 years.

Granted, "the day" is closer than it was 10 minutes ago.

Marc mc, we will see soon enough if Cahn is onto something or not. While we're watching and praying anyway, there's no harm in noticing his warning and keeping our eyes on Jesus our author and finisher to see if Cahn's trajectory meets Jesus' work. I'm not a Cahn basher or a Cahn believer. My prayer is that he speaks what God has said to him because in pure compassion I do not want him to have been a false teacher, even if unintentionally. We'll see.

What is the Holy Spirit doing in His people? That seems to me to be the important question. Cahn is not alone in being one of many warning voices. I desperately want the redemption of my body to Jesus, and all of yours too!

Is it valid for us to respond to these concerns with "Christians have been expecting the time of the end for 2,000 years and it hasn't happened yet, so there's no reason to think we are near the threshold now anymore than then?" I'm not being critical of the statement and I've said it too. But, I'm beginning to second guess myself. From a logical standpoint, I'm not sure it makes sense to say that.

For one, it hoists a burden of proof onto those who seek God with their whole lives, hear from God, and come away from that hearing with an inner knowledge of the approaching of the day as in Heb. 10:25. Now, people of God should not fear proof or sneer at the request for it. Yet, when the "reason" for the knowledge is the inner, subjective witness of the Holy Spirit and a reading of the times, it is almost as if we say, "That's not enough proof. This is fearmongering. We've heard it before. Stop."

On the other hand, if we are going to speak truth and faithfully deliver what the Spirit is saying in truth to us, He is not afraid to give reasons and they are found in His Word. He will not ignore or disagree with His own Word. It certainly appears to me that 2 Timothy 3:1-5 is burgeoning before our eyes. They are last days conditions.

It also seems that the more circumstances exist than ever regarding the biblical descriptions of the time of the end. I'm not the authority by any means. And, if you go down this road, next thing you know you're being made to feel like the Fox Mulder of eschatology -- weird, conspiratorial, gullible, insistent.

But, Israel's situation alone is unique and compelling enough to inform me (and I knowingly bear the risk of being wrong) that we are very near the Day. Technologically, too, things exist now that actually sound like they came out of the apocalyptic writing of Revelation.

So, if we're going to say, "well, they thought this 2,000 years ago", we should also be willing to hear, "the fullness of the time of the Gentiles wasn't, the regathering of Israel wasn't, the smallness of a really big world wasn't (and by that I mean that although we are billions in number, technology has placed us together as instantly and simultaneously subject to its reach), the power of Islam -- politically and psychologically -- around the entire globe wasn't ...." and other things as well. There are many things unique to our time that our forefathers, as much as they knew God, did not know about. And, He saw fit not to reveal it to them. We have more reason to believe that now the Day is near, more reason than mere passage of time.

In regard to the passage about children disobeying their parents- where does that refer to? Do we really think the good ol USA?

Maybe kids obey their parents like crazy in Israel or Japan, or Iran. We know that a lot of kids are disobedient here is the U.S. but that is only relevant if the passage is referring to the U.S.

Maybe it's referring to kids in the Church? I don't know.

We could view this disobedience to parents as part of the same Satanic strategy strategy as homosexuality. Where homosexuality mars the image of God in the face of humanity, obscuring the clarity of who God is to the hearts and minds of men, disobedience to parents also mars that image. Parenthood is a reflection of the nature and personality of God to a child. Rampant disobedience within families on a social scale is an extensive and far-reaching rebellion against God's nature.

Bear in mind that the husband is the head of the wife, that Christ is the head of the man, and that the head of Christ is God. I child's rejection of his parents equals rejection of not merely God's order of the family, but God himself.

I think perhaps it makes sense to view the list in 2 Timothy 3 as cumulative. What I mean is if you look at the first entry in that list it is bracketed first with men being lovers of self and lastly lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God/loving to appear godly without his power. Weigh all of the rest of those against that backdrop. See how each of those compounds up on the idea of being lovers of self and how they climax as pleasure and masquerade. Masquerade of who? God. It reads as if the spiraling occurrence of these things together is significant of the times.

I appreciate and deeply bear witness with the thoughts regarding the the baptism in the Holy Spirit in this topic. While I know that Christ's eminent return is at hand I do not bear witness with what is being said regarding the end being next month. There are prophetic events that still must take place and we also know that we are children of the day that the day of the Lord should not overtake us as a thief.

Romans 8:21-23 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. (22) For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now. (23) And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

As Tim so appropriately shared by the Spirit Romans 8 speaks of the Holy Spirits roll in the Christians life and the end times. The Holy Spirit was poured out 2,000 years ago and the church has slipped far away from this experience and is greatly lacking the power of the Holy Spirit.

Before Jesus returns I know that I know that I know that He is going to pour out His Spirit once again in a way the church has never seen nor known. Joel 2 speaks of this.

The imagery of what Joel is speaking of regarding Israel in relation to the church and the end time is very clear and evident. His words do apply to Israel and at the same time apply to the church as well.

I won't copy the whole chapter but would like to prime the pump if you will.

Joel 2:1 Blow ye the trumpet in Zion (the church), and sound an alarm in my holy mountain (the church): let all the inhabitants of the land (the church) tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

The day of the Lord is a day of wrath and judgement the clear warning of the trumpet is to Gods people not the world. Judgement is going to begin at the house of the Lord (and already has actually. The same applies to the description of professing Christians in 2 Timothy.

As you read through Joel the church is facing Gods wrath and terrible judgement. By the church I do not mean to include His sheep and His elect but those who are in the church professing to know Him but deny Him by their continued sin, rebellion, and hypocrisy.

But prior and even in the midst of His wrath God is still going to give the opportunity for repentance which I believe will happen through the ministry of the Spirit filled believers in the church.

I am only scratching the surface of this topic and I am not real great trying to line up my thoughts and putting it on paper.

I just want to say the Holy Spirit is the absolute KEY and only hope as we approach the end. So many people in the church want to deny the function and place of the HS in their lives, ministry, and church. I know this by experience. It is so amazing and grieving to see such a denial.

The good news though is God IS going to have His way and as He begins and continues to use those who want, hunger, and thirst for all He desires to give us, He will change hearts, and turn hearts to Himself.

Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion (the church), and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately (the initial outpouring of the Holy Spirit), and he will cause to come down for you the rain (His Spirit and Power), the former rain (the initial outpouring), and the latter rain (the coming outpouring of the Holy Spirit)in the first month.

Joel 2:28-29 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (29) And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

One last thought when it comes to young people. I believe that God is going to raise up a young generation who are hungering after Him also in the last days. It has been difficult watching such rebellion in young people these last few years but God reminded me of what is coming in the not to distant future.

Our sons and daughters will prophesy, and you cannot do that without the Holy Spirit in you, and you cannot have the Holy Spirit in you unless you are genuinely saved.

David-

Just to clarify, the traditional doctrine of the "imminent return of Christ" holds that nothing further needs to happen; that Jesus could return at any moment and all required prophecies have been fulfilled.

The only reason I mention this is because you said you said you knew that Christ's imminent return is at hand but you also feel that further prophecy must be fulfilled first.

But it is entirely possible by imminent you meant "soon" and you were not referencing the doctrine of imminency.

Yes, thanks Todd.