Our Wayward Minds

I saw this video today and I thought it was a new video. A non Christian relative posted it on Facebook. It's 4 years old. It is talking about what they term 'Rock Star' preachers who live in mansions who are being investigated.

But it made me wonder how we can go so wrong as Christians.
And lose sight of our conscience. Sometimes we believe we are hearing God so much that we lose sight of the fact it is going against the heart that God has for real things and people.

We are all capable of hearing the inner voice inside us that has promised us things. The voice we believed to be God, and when those things dont materialize people can go as far as becoming bitter and beliving God doesn't exist.

I have heard these preachers in this video say what Ive heard many many Christians speak. We have said the Lord said this and that to me and then the Lord told me to go and do this or that. Some people are so familiar with God to the point of it being doubtable.

I have seen Christians being given prophecies that they would be healed of fatal illnesses because the person speaking has been led by this inner voice and visions.
But those people have died.

I am not sure exactly what the voice is because when I truly repented that inner voice I had heard which always seemed to compromise my lifestyle and say I was forgiven disappeared when I truly set my heart into repentance.
But then I truly heard Gods voice and his real heart for me.
Speaking in such loving ways to me in the night when I was out praying.

Will there be many who have belived in the leading of this voice who will stand before the Lord when he says to them I never knew you ? We think we know God but is it in line with right living and a pure conscience ?

I wonder if this internal voice is a spirit of this age ?
I just know one thing that to fully repent will cause you to hear the true God. And you will become wise of the wiles of the devil

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9oBCLwwL0

I will never forget a good friend and brother in the Lord relating to a few of us a dream he had, this was way back in the mid 90's. He saw the lake of fire and over it a cloud would form and there would appear people in a circle floating above it who were shocked they were there, looking at each other and with one big cry all moisture (as he said it)was evaporated from them and with one big cry they were cast into this place of torment. He than saw them each in a cell bound and not able to move, the cell was nothing but a lake of fire and each person was isolated from any other person, I guess hell will not be the party people think it wil:/ When he woke up he said that all the people were surprised by their appearance above this lake of fire because he understood that they all had been good people in their lives and many had believed they were Christians. The main thrust of this dream seemed to be people who really did not know Jesus or His Word and had no relationship with Him but were religious. Somethings I hear and never forget, that was one of them.

I thought about that as I watched that YouTube you posted.

Thanks for adding some more testimony to this post. Its important that we show that the truth of our salvation is proved by our works. Both those works of Christ within us and of following the Lord in repentance.
Take the hard road the road that leads to life.

mat.7.13-14. "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.

it was a quote from Jesus. In the Bible it was preceded about not judging others and doing unto others that you would have then do unto you.

I practiced the passive Christian lifestyle of waiting upon the Lord for total transformation for many years but a lot of the emphasis for change is put upon us in the Scriptures.

In Christian circles and churches its hard to find people talking on this subject. Because the church is so far adrift from God and his teaching.

For us to enter into revival and especially personal revival the call is upon us to humble ourelves, that is to abase ourelves through obedience, deny ourelves and take up our cross and follow Christ.

Amen, brother.

The Scriptures do say the Way is hard.

Hard on the flesh, that is. Its so much easier to use the Scriptures to say we don't need to do anything after we come to the Lord. The books of Hebrews, James and the epistles of John were written essentially to debunk such dangerous ideas and save the believers from deception.

Perhaps we differ on how we define 'hard' or even 'works' but true believers agree the way of discipleship is so not easy.

The testimony of Scriptures and the experience of throngs of godly believers agree with that.

Marc, when you said the early church had it and the end time remnant will have it are you referring to the exchanged life that Hudson wrote of to his sister ? I think he was telling his sister about what he had found...

We're not doubting that it is part of the Christian life. But when people see others on this forum writing about such topics as putting to death your earthly nature for example they presume we are living a life where we don't receive any of Gods life and that it is a religion that we are living.

Receiving of God by faith is still a part of the Christians life.

What does this verse mean to you and how do you apply it ?

Colossians 3v5 "Put to death whatever belongs to your earthly nature"

Marc, are you able to explain the Scripture I've pointed out. How do you appopriate that in your life. ?

Also do you have any scriptural references where either Paul, Peter or Christ taught us to rely on the Spirits filling as being the sole means of our total transformation from sin.

marcmc,

There is a key to something beyond the exchanged life that makes you a living epistle, causes a revolution where you work, mystifies and amazes those who meet you and is the end to the flesh.

Would appreciate hearing your personal testimony too about appropriating this "key", and how it transformed your life.

My brother,
I do believe we're agreed on a few facts:
1] Living the Christian life is impossible without the indwelling and fullness of the awesome Holy Spirit.
2] Most church folks live defeated lives
3] A lot of the folks on this forum want to live that overcoming life, which is crucial in these times we live in

Having read Reese Howells' testimony, his life depicts what you describe. A coming to the end of one's self and desperately seeking the fullness of the Spirit.

If you would be pleased to share your testimony on the subject, we will all be greatly edified and encouraged. Those who have gone before us overcame by the Blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony.

May the Lord continue to bless and keep you.

The Scriptures imply when we gather, each one is to bring something to offer for the edification of the Body. That may be a word of exhortation, rebuke or comfort. I believe sharing testimonies of what the Lord is doing in, through and for us does that.

It helps us to see the victory of the Cross more clearly, thereby, encouraging us to overcoming the enemy.

As for the precious Blood, when I'm a little more coherent, I might attempt an explanation.

I hope this makes some sense.

It would be nice to hear how you got saved Marc. What happened to you as you said it was a very good experience ?