War on the Saints

War on the Saints by Jessie Penn-Lewis and Evan Roberts. Has anyone read it? Does anyone know of any other Evan Roberts books?

Hi, :-) We have the book, the last edition been published my husband had read it and I have been trying to read it but finding it hard to keep going with it :-) I know it's an awesome book ...

Yes, I have read it. It seems severe at times, but I think there is a lot of deep and painful truth in it. I have been wondering if what Jesse Penn Lewis describes is a phenomena that we have been seeing in the Vineyard type of movement - pre-revival rather than post-revival as was in her case. Perhaps, we are all affected to some degree by the dulling of the mind - as she describes. Here are a few quotes that struck me. Don't they seem relevent for today? "The devil mixes his lies with the truth, for he must use truth to carry his lies." Pg. 119 "Working on people's senses in the sphere of religion has long been Satan's special mode of deceiving men Pg 125 "...exaggerated sense of importance… You think that you are more advanced than others are; you are a special instrument; you have special insight......don't listen to others because you have special 'direct' revelation from God....they try to feel God in their natural senses…"At the dawn of revival, the ignorant are teachable, but through their apparently spiritual experiences, they later become unteachable." Diane

Alright thanks.. I can't wait till I find time to read it. Right now I'm finishing a book about David Livingstone.

I read that book too long ago and cant remember much about it

yes, ,the CLC abridged edition deletes all references to Christians being demon-possessed and the baptism of the Holy Spirit, including the whole capstone of the book, the final chapter on the baptism of the Holy Spirit and revival. KN

Thank you very much everyone. I did buy the abridged edition (not paying any attention). But I will read the unabridged edition since everyone agrees there is much needed information left out. I don't really see the point of making an abridged edition... Why take out parts?

sermonindex wrote:Alot of charismatic speakers hate (not too strong of a word) Jesse-Penn Lewis! they attibitute her to stopping the Welsh Revival and halting the spiritual usefullness of Evan Roberts. Evan Roberts co-authored the book with her. I have read this book and I want to study it again.I have heard a little about Jesse-Penn Lewis and I am curious to know more. Is there any info about her on SI? I know there a lot of articles she wrote on SI. Is there a biography on Jesse? But especially to the above quote by Greg is there any way that anyone could expound on this more or any links to point me in that direction?

Hello there,There are three main biographies of Jessie Penn-Lewis:Mary N. Garrard: Mrs. Penn-Lewis - A MemoirPublished by the Overcomer Bookroom in 1930, 307 pagesJ. C. Metcalfe: Molded by the Cross - The Biography of Jessie Penn-Lewis Published by CLC in 1977, 141 pagesBrynmor Pierce Jones: The Trials & Triumphs of Mrs. Jessie Penn-LewisPublished by Bridge-Logos in 1997, 349 pagesManfred

I was in conversation with someone on 'the war' just last week and we both had the same reactions to it. It is very repetitive and neither of us had been able to finish it in spite of starting it several times.I find it too negative and would certainly question many of her ideas. I suspect that it is her outworking of the care she offered to Evan Roberts following his breakdown. I acknowledge the danger of passivity but she makes the saint so vulnerable that life seems to become something of a minefield. I find the New Testament so much more robust than this.Sometimes people have personal direction from God in their counselling of others that cannot be denied but I always question the wisdom of publishing and so making a 'manual' avaiable.Personally, I would not recommend 'the war'.

Philologos,I mentioned it to my pastor that I started the book and he recommened that I did not finish it. He said he did not agree with Jesse. And he mentioned that he felt she did not bring anything good to Evan Roberts. I agree with what you posted. Thanks.

I agree with you brothers.I read the whole book twice many years ago. The whole outcome was negative. I question many things that are said in this book, many things that cannot be substantiated by the Scriptures. I do not recommend this book to anyone.Manfred