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Lysa Nov 18, 2015


This was shared by Dalton Thomas, who produced "Covenant and Controversy."

· Brian van Deventer · Voúla, Greece ·

My role often dictates, and my natural inclination, is to avoid divisive debates - especially on social media. But I'm sticking this one out there because of what crosses my screen. And it is important.

My friends, when did it become evident that a desire for caution and security, and a desire for and belief in compassion are antithetical or mutually exclusive? I happen to believe that those who are opposed and aconcerned about bringing masses of migrants to our shores (wherever that may be) are not all hard-hearted hate-mongerers lacking compassion. I also know that not all of us who argue for sensible relocation of people suffering a humanitarian crisis of amazing proportion are not all doves with our heads in the sand or eyes stuck in the skies lacking in insight. The two can be compatible, especially when we understand the nature of nations and the Church and their unique roles.

Yes, it is true that the vast majority of people on the refugee trail and in the camps (speaking of here in Greece primarily) are Muslim. That is the demographic of the nations of origin. And the point that Christian minority from these countries often have financial means to migrate differently than through the path of refugees is also true, though not entirely.

I share many practical concerns about the current situation, but I especially want people (leadership in particular) to be careful about their reactions and propositions.

I have shared other posts about this, but we are in danger of further harming the hurting in many instances by judging them as complicit, or at least compliant, with the extremist forces - which ARE there, and ARE coming through avenues opened by legitimate refugee flows, a la Paris. I am circumspect and cautious - and well aware that in the midst of this all, there is indeed an agenda to move masses of Muslims westward. I am not naive.

But I believe even greater that 1) there is legitimate human suffering involved here that must be addressed from a Kingdom perspective, even as we expect our governments to do what they must to secure the safety and health of nations. It is not dichotomous to say the government must do its job, and we must support that, while still viewing things and speaking as the Church with compassion, and the expectancy that 2) the intention for wrong can be turned to good. This is the opportunity for the Church to reach many that may never have been reached before. There is an immense Kingdom opportunity, if we can avoid being seized by fear, misconception or apocalyptic doom and gloom - all of which are out there in varying degrees. I am all for wisdom and caution. I am more for "the gates of hell shall not prevail".

And, finally, as one living in a small, devastated country being landed by tens of thousands of refugees per week, I wonder if those who would like to refuse dissemination of these people (and people they are), would leave them all piled up in a country too small, too poor, too defunct to care for them in the most minimal of ways, no less mitigate the dangers that may be present among them, when the greater nations declare themselves incapable of doing so. I feel for the situation from all sides. I just feel that our leaders need to be more circumspect than what we are witnessing.

Those at work in the camps and along the trail will tell you: these are largely people in great need looking for a way to live life free of threats, bombs and tragedy, just like the rest of us. Many. Many are women and children. Most. Most are not hateful and bent on our destruction. And yes. Yes, some of them are. People, however, are not demographics. They are people. And whether they are Christian, Muslim, Agnostic, Atheist or other, they are our neighbors.

Follow the actual flow of refugees at this link:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34131911

The debate needs a much wider perspective than safety OR compassion. Please.

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docseth1 Nov 18, 2015

Good words!

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Heydave Nov 18, 2015

Yes, very good. He put it much better than me.

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narrowpath Nov 18, 2015

Here in Germany we are taking in a great share of refugees in. Yesterday I had my first direct contact with them. We met up with some refugee families from Syria and Iran through the social services.
I spoke to a family and we barely managed to communicate. They showed me pictures of their destroyed home and friends that are now dead. It just breaks your heart when you are exposed to it. You have to be careful and wise with witnessing.
Our house group is now taking first active steps towards a ministry among them accompanied by much prayer. Some of us will do a short terms outreach to Serbia which is a en route towards Germany.

I can absolutely understand all these voices calling for caution and limitation of the influx. Islamic countries are hostile towards Christians and being a missionary there can endanger your life. Now God makes it easier by sending them to us. This is an opportunity not to be missed. Almost every church in Germany is now thinking of ways how to reach these people.

Many Germans were refugees themselves after WWII. My own mother was a refugee child. I think this is why there is a great deal of compassion for them in my country.

It is an overwhelming task impossible for us handful of Christians here but I am sure God will aid us.


sermonindex Nov 18, 2015

amen.

i have more to say...soft things, but all i really want to do is cry.

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dolfan Nov 18, 2015

I went to college (our church college) for two years with Brian Van Deventer. He was (and perhaps still is, I don't know...) part of the Church of God of Prophecy which is based in Cleveland, TN. I respect his opinion. He was committed to a call to mission work 25 years ago when I met him. His family was loyal and smart. His father worked for the denomination and the college. Lost track of him.

He's got a valid point that doesn't present a solution.

In my mind, it makes the "Final Plea For Conscience" message by Times Square Church this past weekend more salient. Am I going to spend my remaining time fighting the windmills of policy or proclaiming Christ? It makes for easy pontification until there's a bomb strapped to the gal next to you at a concert or ball game or church service or whatever.

sermonindex Nov 18, 2015

Even if the people we minister to, end up taking our lilfe and our family's life, we have to believe that God brought these people into our lives or else we would not be ministering the love of God to them. Just as Saul of Tarsus, it may only be as a result of a death that life then comes to them. We have to walk this walk whether we see results or not. Situations like this really make us decide whether we are a citizen of heaven or a citizen of some country down here.

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dolfan Nov 18, 2015

I have a creeping suspicion, Julius, that if I'd asked myself this question two weeks ago, I'd have a so-called easy answer that is probably the right answer and I don't have it that easily today:

"If God chose to deliver a nation to my doorstep for the proclamation of the gospel, but I knew that most of them would hate me to the point of wanting me dead, would I love them and tell them the truth? Yes or No"

Two weeks ago, I'm sure I'd have easily said, "yes." The pitiful truth is that today I probably don't love Jesus enough to honestly say that with the same ease today.

sermonindex Nov 18, 2015

This is why the Lord tests us, dolfan. You are not the only one. Our love for Him and one another and others must be tested.

sermonindex Nov 19, 2015

Good work Narrowpath!

But may I still share a few thoughts of caution and concern.
Here is a video which i think is fairly balanced:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc

A few points to consider:
as others pointed out already we have no (political ) say in all this and as believers we need to start to realise that we are "strangers and pilgrims " on this earth. We need to be witnesses for Christ by "going into all the world" or by witnessing to our neighbors.

By far most of those Asylum seekers are not Christians and therefore Biblicaly speaking in the camp of our enemy. That means the stories they are telling us and the photos they are showing us might not always be the full truth.

In the OT God warned the Jews many times not to mix with other nations:
Nehemiah 13:23 In those days I also saw that the Jews had married women from Ashdod, Ammon and Moab. 24As for their children, half spoke in the language of Ashdod, and none of them was able to speak the language of Judah, but the language of his own people.

I believe what happens in Europe will further undermine and weaken Christianity. True believers will also face a lot of opposition from the liberal church!
If the Lord calls you for this ministry, be a "Daniel " and "wise as serpents, and harmless as doves "
Romans 8:31 "What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us?" NLT

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narrowpath Nov 19, 2015

Hello markuskiwi:


You are making the assumption that we are a Christian nation, but we are far from it. There are no Christian nations and never will be until the Lord returns, not even the USA or South Korea. We are just as far from God as the jihadists with explosive belts around their waist.

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