Jehovah God and Allah

On FB there are discussions about Allah and God being the same god or God - big G or little g?

(I consider Allah a counterfeit god.)

Did the Muslims ever consider themselves to be the recipients of the OT law as given by God to Moses for the Children of Israel?

I could do an online search, I suppose, but do not know who to trust because people I used to trust are proving to be unworthy of it. Is there a good honest rendering of Muslim history anywhere? Still, what would that matter? The fruit produced by muslims indicate who their father is and it is not the Jehovah God. Still, for the sake of an decent discussion on this issue I think this answer would be helpful.

God bless.

Sandra

In my current Bible Study I am stuck in Exodus...stuck because I will read a few verses and find a truth so awesome I cannot read more but have to meditate on it for a day or so.

In any case, I am being reminded how God is the Supreme Being, God. God declares he is a jealous God and he will not tolerate any competition for worship. He goes so far to declare that people should not even mention the names of other gods nor do any study of them. In Isaiah he says he will not share his glory with any other. No other god comes close - if there is such a one and that can be debatable but based on semantics.

Just thought I would share this to let the reader know where I am coming from on my understanding of who God is.

Sandra

Sandra:
David Wood is a good source. He has a YouTube channel called Acts17 Apologetics. I know he also has a blog. He might have some information on there that can be useful.

He used to have a partner, Nabeel Qureshi (not sure if I spelled that right) who was a Muslim and was converted by David's friendship and exposition of the truth of the gospel. Nabeel is now working with Ravi Zacharias. He has a book about his conversion. My Kids read it and they said it taught them a lot about Islam in an honest and non-disparaging manner.

By the way, I also feel that reading Deutoronomy creates awe in our Holy yet Merciful Father and Lord.

Coincidentally, Nabeel Qureshi tackled this exact question recently: http://rzim.org/global-blog/do-muslims-and-christians-worship-the-same-god

His book "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus" is indeed very good - it's been banned in some countries: http://amzn.to/1QI49EA

It's a riveting and moving account of his seeking the One True God. He has an academic temperament, so the topic of Islam and its differences with Christianity is expounded in a systematic, lucid manner - pretty much "Islam 101" for Christians. Highly recommended.

Ginnyrose - to answer your question directly:

Muslims do believe in the existence of the Old Testament and the New Testament. However, the Islamic belief is that the originals are lost and the Christian Scripture we have today is corrupted (a claim which is easily contradicted by archaeological evidence).

An atheist once shared with me a quote he found online: "The Old Testament is the original, the New Testament is the sequel, and the Quran is the fan fiction." It's a pithy summary of how the Quran's version of biblical events differ to that from the Bible's - such as: Abraham sacrificing Ishmael instead of Isaac; Jesus did not die on the cross for anyone' sins. It's a different narrative altogether.

Another Qureshi post - "Should Christians Read the Quran?" (Answer: No):
http://blog.nabeelqureshi.com/2013/11/should-christians-read-quran.html

Did the Muslims ever consider themselves to be the recipients of the OT law as given by God to Moses for the Children of Israel?

Muslims link themselves back to Ishmael, but Moses, and Israel came from the line of Isaac - Abraham's other son. Still, as I understand, both Christianity and Islam believe in the great commandment - to love God, and neighbour as yourselves. What that means to each is another matter.

I'd say that Islam and much of historical Christianity have, in actuality, worshiped the same "god". It's the god of a "different gospel" created in the minds of those who cling to their own works and sense of self-righteosness. This was true for ancient Israel every time they strayed from the God of the redemptive grace - and it's true for much of Christianity still today.

Perhaps the important question to ask is this: Is the God of the Bible also the God of the Koran. I do not believe so - especially in view of God's redemptive plan and purposes
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Diane

Dear Sandra,

Don't confuse linguistics with theology. "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for "God". Namely, both Arabic Christians and Arabic Muslims use the word "Allah" (By the way, I read Arabic, and my Arabic Bible uses the word Allah). However, Muslims and Christians have a very different idea when they speak about "God" or "Allah". There are some great resources out there to help you go more in depth:

Nabeel Qureshi, "Seeking Allah, Finding Jesus" (great resource for Christians to understand how to relate to Muslims)

James White, "What Every Christian Needs to Know About the Qur'an" (great resource for Christians to have a basic understanding of the Qur'an)

Pierre-Luc Rivard, "When a Person Asks Dangerous Questions: The Miraculous Power of Truth" (great resource to hand out to Muslims, to introduce them to the truth of the gospel)

May God bless you richly as you seek to be a light for Christ!

Dear Diane,

To determine if Christians and Muslims worship the same God, they have to define who God is.

The litmus test to determine whether people worship the One True God is to point to Jesus Christ, who is the image of the invisible God. (Col.1:15) God has revealed Himself to humanity fully and finally in His Son, which is why He has become the ultimate dividing line for the true worship of God. (2 John 1:7-9; 1 John 5:20)

Of course, Muslims would say that Jesus is not Allah. Based on that, we could say that they do not believe in the Father, the One True God. Their God is false. If they truly knew God the Father, they would believe in His Son also. They would not deny the truth about the Eternal Son of God, who makes the Father known to the world.

Muslims do the same thing that Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses do: They deny the truth about who Jesus is, thereby revealing that they do not know the One True God. That is why we need to preach the truth about Jesus, so that they may know the One True God, and know His salvation through the atoning sacrifice of His One and Only Son, Jesus Christ.

Blessings,
Renoncer

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Is the God of the Bible also the God of the Koran. I do not believe so - especially in view of God's redemptive plan and purposes

I agree. My gut instinct is that they are not the one and same.

I find it almost impossible to believe "Christians' who will declare that Allah and God are the same when their commands to their followers are poles apart: love your enemy vs kill the the infidels, e.g. I am finding Christians credibility challenged who declare that Allah and God are the same. Muslims have a history of hating and murdering people who will not embrace their belief system. I am not aware of any other religion that has such a violent history.

A few months ago we were faced with the issue of same-sex marriage, now it is 'is Allah and Jehovah God the same'? And the pressure to believe it is growing. What next? It seems as though each issue is worse the one preceding it.

Sandra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q09ooSkHtic