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Gates of hell and the advancement of the kingdom

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JFW Jan 3, 2016

Today,near the close of his msg, our pastor quoted the verse where Jesus tells Peter that upon this rock He will build His church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it- he then made a point that gates are generally a defensive measure and suggested that we are not to simply "hold the fort" but advance the kingdom against the gates of hell and that they (the gates) would not be able to withstand this advance:)

This was a new take on this verse for me and I was very much moved by it. Have any other saints on SI had/heard this perspective before? And if so what strategies have you successfully employed in doing this?


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TMK Jan 3, 2016

It's funny you mention this because my wife and I were watching the Lord of the Rings trilogy over the long weekend and in two of the movies the walls needed to be breached by the enemy forces.

They did this in several ways: 1) going over the top using ladders and ropes 2) using explosive device to breach the wall 3) battering rams 4) catapults.

Persistence, coordinated effort, courage, cunning, and willingness to sacrifice oneself were all necessary in order to breach the walls.

I think all these things are necessary to prevail against the gates of hell.

Attacks against a defensive wall are of no use unless the army gets through to the other side.

It seems the modern Church has tried a lot of things to try to damage the gates of hell, but to a large degree thus far the gates of hell have prevailed. I think this is because there are not enough Christians willing to scale over the top or run through the breaches that have been created.

sermonindex Jan 5, 2016

Gates are normally used to keep people out, to protect them from the "enemy". The Gates of Hell are designed to keep people in. Before Christ, we were by nature the "children of wrath", Eph 2:3.

The last enemy is death and Jesus Christ has vanquished death and brought freedom to all men, by His death and resurrected life. They only need to turn to Christ in faith and receive Him. (John 1:12)

"For he hath broken the GATES OF BRASS, and cut the BARS OF IRON in sunder. Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted. Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the GATES OF DEATH." (Psa 107:16-18)


"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the GATES INTO THE CITY." (Rev 22:14)

Satan has even counterfeited the "Gates into the city" of God. And counterfeited the way in (religious works). He has his gates and his "works of righteousness (false righteousness) and many people will be surprised (Matt 7:21 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. ).

But the way through the true GATES are for those who have "washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb". "And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb." (Rev 7:14)

sermonindex Jan 5, 2016

Fletcher I have heard this view taught. That the gates of hell not prevailing against the church is more the advancing of His kingdom purposes. I think it has to be in connection with the global harvest. Because Jesus is building His church one heart at a time. I think one main strategy that God has given to the church to advance his kingdom is a strategy of prayer. We pray as Jesus taught in the Lord's Prayer Your kingdom come Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

As usual, these are simply my thoughts.

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dfella Jan 5, 2016

The initial verse that comes to mind is:

Matthew 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

John came preaching repentance and the Kingdom of Heaven as well as Jesus, the apostles, and the early church. This is the very message we should be preaching as well to advance Gods Kingdom against the forces of darkness and hell.

As a result of this preaching sinners who hear the message are apprehending/pressing into the kingdom.

Preaching the Gospel, repentance, and the Kingdom of God is an offensive form of warfare advancing the truth with a violence so to speak. When sinners hear the call they willingly take or receive the truth in the same manner.

Another portion that comes to mind about our warfare in advancing the Kingdom against the gates of hell is:

Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. (11) Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. (12) For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (13) Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. (14) Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; (15) And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; (16) Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. (17) And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: (18) Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

In this portion we see both defensive and offensive equipment in the advancement of the Gospel and the Kingdom. Once we put on the whole armor of God we take the offensive by faith using Gods Word preaching the Gospel and most importantly praying in the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is given to empower us to take the armor and advance Gods Kingdom being witnesses for Him and the Gospel.

Luke 4:18-19 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, (19) To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.

The very same anointing and commission that was upon Jesus is also upon His church for Jesus Himself said:

John 14:12-13 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. (13) And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

My thoughts.


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TMK Jan 5, 2016

The only way a gate or wall prevails is if is not attacked or attacked half-heartedly.

sermonindex Jan 5, 2016

That is true, TMK.

Additionally, gates stop people from coming in or prevent people from getting out, (such as a prison).

Reminds me of this verse.

2Tim 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the SNARE OF THE DEVIL, who are TAKEN CAPTIVE BY HIM at his will.

But the "gates of hell" cannot prevail when the light of the gloriously gospel shines on those who are blinded by the "god of this world". However, once a man understands and rejects the Gospel/Christ, he is then choosing to stay imprisoned behind the gates of hell.

2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Jesus Christ is building His Church out of men, formerly imprisoned by the "gates of hell".

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TMK Jan 5, 2016

So I guess the question is do we storm the gates to rescue them or do they have to find their own way out.

I always took the imagery of the gates of hell not prevailing against the Church as meaning they cannot withstand the assault by the Church. But I may be wrong in my thinking about that.

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Heydave Jan 5, 2016

Gates of a city in the bible often refer to the place where in ancient times the elders would gather to take counsel together and govern the city. To 'sit in the gate' meant you were in a position of authority in that place.

Therefore the gates of hell could refer to the authority and government of hell, namely Satan and the rulers and principalities of that kingdom. i.e Satan's kingdom will not overcome the church.

sermonindex Jan 5, 2016

Yes, I agree with that. It is a metaphor for Satanic authority that keeps people imprisoned.

Jesus came to "set the captives free" and that is the ministry of the church, too, since Christ dwells in His Church.

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AbideinHim Jan 5, 2016

Fletcher,

I agree with your pastor. The Church in America has been in a defensive posture for far too long, just trying to hold on until Jesus comes.

Well, the walls have been breached. The doors have been opened to the enemy, because the Church has failed to be the salt and the light that God has called us to be.

The greatest weapon that the Body of Christ can use to take back territory that has been given to the enemy is "prayer warfare."

The greatest offensive weapon in our arsenal is the "Word of God" that is alive, powerful, and sharper that any two edged sword. We must use the Word of God, which is the sword of the Spirit to drive the enemy back out of our regions, and wherever he has taken ground.

This involves much more than just binding and loosing, because the enemy is there because he has been given a legal right to be there through sin and iniquity. The Church must take responsibility for this and have times of corporate repentance.

"God looked for a man among them that would build up the wall and stand in the gap before Him for the land, so that He would not destroy it, but He found none." (Ezekiel 22:30).

sermonindex Jan 5, 2016

by AbideinHim on 2016/1/5 12:46:58

The Church in America has been in a defensive posture for far too long, just trying to hold on until Jesus comes.

That statement betrays a serious condition about the church since the One Who they confess dwells within them, "went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil."

How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. (Acts 10:38)

Let's make sure this is not our condition. We are no good to the Kingdom if we retreat and hide.

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Man0fG0d Jan 6, 2016

Today,near the close of his msg, our pastor quoted the verse where Jesus tells Peter that upon this rock He will build His church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it- he then made a point that gates are generally a defensive measure and suggested that we are not to simply "hold the fort" but advance the kingdom against the gates of hell and that they (the gates) would not be able to withstand this advance:)

JFW, that is a good thought. Sounds like your pastor has been praying!

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JFW Jan 6, 2016

Brother Elijah,
Ha actually you are spot on! They have felt compelled to pray even more as 2015 closed and 2016 begins even tho visiting pastors always seem pleasantly surprised a usually comment from the pulpit how much we like to pray+:) they always say, "this is a praying church"!

I love my pastor, he truly has a pastors heart, is burdened for the lost and has created a discipleship program that is quite effective in leading one into an intimate conversational based relationship with God.
While I don't always agree with everything they might say or do, I nonetheless trust the Lord to correct either myself or the issue at hand and just pray about it and then let it go and listen..... I'm pretty sure my pastor is doing the same.
It's interesting that this past Sunday marked the beginning of 21 days of prayer and fasting for our church. It's very encouraging to me that tho this is a seeker friendly service, they are faithful to seek His kingdom and see it advanced.


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Man0fG0d Jan 6, 2016

Bro. Fletcher, that is what it takes to make it in this hour. Jesus said this type cometh not but by prayer and fasting only. If the devil can, he will attack people and do his best to distract them from spending time in prayer. Prayer is where we get our strength and vision.

The bible says let God be the truth and every man a liar. As long as it lines up with the Word, support him. Pastors go through lot. And keep me in your prayers. I welcome prayers from people who love the Lord and know how to get ahold of God.

sermonindex Jan 6, 2016

Brothers Peter reminds us that the end of all things is near. Let us be of sound judgment and sober spirit for the purpose of prayer.

Indeed we should all be praying more in 2016 than we did in 2015.

Simply my thoughts.......

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