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sermonindex Jan 9, 2016

Hey guys I am in need of prayer. The past few months i have been having this presence that seems to come upon me at different times throughout the week or every other week and it seems to try to paralize my body or attack my body and weaken. I can feel the presence come upon me and i just woke up from feeling something try holding me down in my bed. Earlier today I started having struggles with my memory again. I talked to one of my deacons about some of this stuff on wednesday and it seems to still persist. I have been praying more fervently not only from my deliverance but also the salvation of my wife and my family that I live with and their deliverance from their sins and bondage. My Mom and her drinking and my brother and his drug problem. I spent a long time in prayer today with the Lord. But, to be honest with I have been struggling with my faith for some time now. It just seems like the more i pray and seek the Lord at times the demonic attacks still come upon me. I just dont understand, has the lord gave me over or just allowing me to have this thorn in the flesh or is it because i am living in a bad environment. I really don't know. I dont want to quit, please keep me in your prayer. John

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Lysa Jan 9, 2016


praying John.

sermonindex Jan 10, 2016

Greetings John

James 4 v7 Therefore submit to God. Resist the devil and he will flee from you. But read the rest of the chapter too .

Some more Scriptures (from "Desiring God")
Hebrews 4:16 - Let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and may find grace to help in time of need.
Hebrews 7:25 - He is able to save forever those who draw near to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
Hebrews 11:6 - Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who draws near to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

The devil could also influence you through certain music, videos, books, meditation, "relaxing" exercises, like Yoga etc.
It is important to look at all those areas as well.

Thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ
http://www.crossroad.to/HisWord/verses/topics/victory.htm

Will pray for you - blessings!

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TMK Jan 10, 2016

John have you been to your dr for a full physical including blood work?

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dolfan Jan 10, 2016

John, your living situation is a mess and you are right now ill equipped to navigate that mess. I don't know that what you are going through is "demonic oppression", although I am sure the enemy takes delight in your plight.

Keep praying, keep in the Word, keep in fellowship.

Move somewhere with just you and your wife. Another city even. Your mother's drinking and your brother's drug use are not your problem. You are way more than concerned for them. You are wallowing in their mire. You are no good to them as things are. You need separation and time to get perspective from the Lord.

sermonindex Jan 10, 2016

Move somewhere with just you and your wife. Another city even. Your mother's drinking and your brother's drug use are not your problem. You are way more than concerned for them. You are wallowing in their mire. You are no good to them as things are. You need separation and time to get perspective from the Lord.

I believe the above is sound counsel if the Lord would open the doors and confirm this.

I know I have counselled you to do this before, please go through this entire document and read it aloud, praying everything outloud: http://www.antiocha2.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Steps-To-Freedom-In-Christ.pdf

Take steps with any object also in your home that could be opening a door with the enemy.

sermonindex Jan 15, 2016

Hey guys sorry for taking so long to get back to you. Yes, I went to doctor a few months back and got two tests done the only thing they found wrong was my vitamin d levels were low. I have tried examine what could be wrong for a long time if you knew I sometimes freak out over the smallest bad thoughts I have. But, I have noticed my thinking gets bad with too much caffeine and sugar. So I do need to slow down on that and I need to sleep better which is affected my thinking to. A few years ago when I was having the back issues I starred taking some medicine for anxiety and at first it seemed to helped slightly and then I started having really bad thoughts and became very tired all the time and I made the decision to stop taking it and trust God. That was in early 2013 and I got a lot better, but then it has been this past year my problems have started up again and it really began to happen around Christmas of 2015 when I became burned out from everything. I was working for two years at Wal-Mart and I hadn't had a vacation yet. I had just finally began to be healed by the Lord slowly from my health problems with my back and was able to work again, but I was dead set I didn't want to fall again from where I was so when I started working again at Wal-Mart it was truly a blessing. A month before I got the job at Wal-Mart I started attending first Baptist church of lockport and I have been their since. Also I started finding healing especially with my quiet times with the Lord in prayer and reading scripture. Which I still do but with new job not as frequent or not as long as before. But anyways I kind of took a legalistic stand with these things in fear that if I didn't go to church or do my devotions that the Lord was going to come down on me with chastizement or I was going to open doors to demonic spirits so I made sure I made every church service and almost every bible study and Sunday school class, I made sure I did my devotionals every day at lunch at work or I prayed, I made sure I didn't look or rarely communicate with any girl in fear I was going to fall again and I tried to live perfect to the point every thought that was bad I confessed it instantly even if the devil put it their. I was afraid I was going to be chastised. But this was what I was doing everyday and if I didn't do it I became fearful of what would happen. So a year ago I just got burned out and felt bad I was burned out. I found some encouragement in the life of rich Mullins from the movie ragamuffin just to have freedom in my life. Which then I got I believe a revelation from God in the summer that I have been believing lies about God and everything so that it is something I think I one of my main problems is I keep believing I am going to get punished by god

sermonindex Jan 15, 2016

Have you done this brother?

I know I have counselled you to do this before, please go through this entire document and read it aloud, praying everything outloud: http://www.antiocha2.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Steps-To-Freedom-In-Christ.pdf

sermonindex Jan 15, 2016

I mean everything I do I have had this mind set and the scary thing that I get attacked by what I thought was God but now know is evil spirits from wrong belief but it is got so bad when I start walking in the truth or not believe the lies I get oppressed so my thoughts become out of control and I start feeling physical attacks from a presence that weakens my body or comes down upon me and then my body losing feeling. I at times have been fearful of expressing everything on hear out of fear of chastizement too. I cant even work anymore because I start working too hard and the evil presence weakens my body at work so I start working slow and I don't get my productivity numbers so then I could get fired. I am so fearful and at times I start getting my mind on Christ and I notice but then it like these evil spirits overpower me get weak again. It is .so frustrating. I am in fear of going to another church. But anyways I am a mess I do I appreciate your prayers and wisdom. If I do keep my job I wont have money to move out sadly. Thank you so much for hearing me

sermonindex Jan 15, 2016

Hey Greg, yes I have gone through this I could go through it again. Appreciate it brother.

sermonindex Jan 15, 2016

Do you think things like crosses even or books can cause oppression? I have got rid of books that have false teaching and any occult things like tarot cards before, but didn't notice anything. I have wondered if it is superstitious. I noticed I started getting really oppressed when I ever I start looking into the one world government or new world order stuff.

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yuehan Jan 15, 2016

Let me share a relevant anecdote with you, bible4life -

One of my family members won a "dragon" plush toy from a theme park years ago. I would feel anxious whenever I saw the dragon, as if there was an "evil presence" to the it. However, the plush toy was not mine, and I could not get rid of it.

One day, I realized the anxiety I had towards the plush toy was not due to any intrinsic evil attached to the dragon, but was rooted in my beliefs about it.

Now, I'm very familiar with dragons due to my ethnicity and absolutely had no problems with them in the past, even in my early Christian days. But some Christians I'm acquainted with believe that all dragons were symbolic of Satan, and advocated discarding all such items. Those beliefs rubbed off on me, and thenceforth I developed an anxiety towards dragons.

I don't believe there is an "evil presence" to the dragon plush toy anymore - I even deliberately hugged it a few times. I do not deny the reality of evil spirits (good on you for getting rid of tarot cards), but even if they were around, Satan has no hold over the believer and there is absolutely no ground for anxiety. To the contrary, evil spirits should be afraid of those who are in Jesus Christ.

So it's been an interesting episode with the plush toy. There was nothing really wrong with the toy, no spiritual dimension to it - the anxiety was entirely rooted in my beliefs about the toy. Indeed, you call it a superstition. Once I changed my beliefs, the anxiety dissipated.

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yuehan Jan 15, 2016

Some questions for you to ponder:

1. Do you believe that God loves you, and fully accepts you?

2. Do you believe that God has fully forgiven you, and is pleased to keep you as His son?

3. Do you believe that God wants to bless you, and live life in the expectation of being blessed by Him? Or do you think God is out to punish you, or inflict you with pain and confusion?

4. You have asked for prayer many times, but what do you want God to do in your life? - Get rid of the thoughts? Change your anxiety instantly?

5. How do you imagine "normal" life would look like, when you are no longer obsessing over your thoughts or demons? What would you be doing then on a daily, moment-by-moment basis?

Look forward to reading your point-by-point responses to these questions.

sermonindex Jan 22, 2016

Hey brother I will try responding to those questions.

1. I believe it is God's nature to love and because of that he loves me and I do believe he accepts me in the work and person of Christ only. But, my struggle has been that i go back and forth thinking i lost my salvation because of everything I am experiencing.

2. I believe God can forgive and forgives all sin because of Christ death on the cross and resurrection, but I struggle believing he can forgive me because I don't sense his presence like I use to so I at times fear he left me.

3. At times I am confused, when i read the word or others books or writing I look see God's great mercy and love for us, but then I again look at my affliction I go through and wonder if I did something wrong at times. I guess it is a inner struggle with me where some days I believe it and other days I have these immense struggles and wonder if someone saved could experience this.

4. I want to know I am forgiven and that I am truly am saved and know what I am experiencing if its from him or from demons or just me and my health.

5. I probably would too vocal of a christian and try to reach out to as many people as possible. I would try to enjoy every moment of my life and I would flee sin with a passion.

sermonindex Feb 16, 2016

Hey guys please continue to keep me in prayer another round of oppression from the enemy has started coming on me again and having a hard time getting through this.

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davidkeel Feb 16, 2016

Okay John, praying. And also that you would find the keys out of this place.

sermonindex Feb 16, 2016

Thanks brother. I feel as if their are evil spirits in my chest area and throat area I can feel something that is affecting. I know that sounds crazy to some but i believe their are evil spirits in my flesh. I dont think they possess my spirit, but I do believe their in my body, a few years ago I felt them come in when I was trying to resist them. But, the reason why i say that is because they are weaking my body or try to take over it or something and I can feel a presence, my problem is I dont know what is causing this, but anyways I appreciate your prayers, right now I am going through a terrible struggle, my body is so weak.

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TMK Feb 16, 2016

John do feel this sensation during the day when fully awake or when you are in bed?

sermonindex Feb 16, 2016

I feel it in both places

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yuehan Feb 23, 2016

Bible4life,

You *feel* that there are evil spirits in your body, but the truth is that it's all in your mind.

Those feelings are a product of anxiety and fear (likely rooted in wrong beliefs about God and about yourself). That's something which is very apparent in your earlier post about how you have begun to feel oppressed by even crosses and books.

I came across this quote by a secular neuroscientist recently, which ties into what I said: "The thalamus (in the brain) makes no distinction between inner and outer realities, and thus any idea, if contemplated long enough, will take on a semblance of reality. Your belief becomes neurologically real, and your brain will respond accordingly."

You have been obsessing over demons for years. Stop that.

How about just forgetting everything about demons, and fix your mind on happy and positive things - particularly God, who loves you very much and has already fully accepted you?

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