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American Pastor Saeed Abedini: ‘They Beat Me Very Badly’

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016


An American pastor who was imprisoned in Iran for over three years is now speaking about his time behind bars, acknowledging that he and others were beaten by Iranian authorities.

"In interrogation, once they beat me very badly,” Saeed Abedini told Fox’s Greta Van Susteren on Monday, "because they wanted me to write something [to admit guilt], which I didn’t do that.”

"It actually was in a courtroom where the judge closed the door and the interrogators started beating me, which in that time, I had stomach bleeding,” he said.

"They beat you with their fist?” Van Susteren asked. ...

read more: http://christiannews.net/2016/01/26/american-pastor-saeed-abedini-speaks-of-his-imprisonment-in-iran-they-beat-me-very-badly/

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dolfan Jan 28, 2016

We need to pray for this family. You probably know by now that Nagmeh Abedini yesterday filed a petition in court in Idaho to prevent Saeed from leaving the state with their children. She publicly now maintains that as recently as within the last 3 months Saeed has verbally and emotionally abused her in their conversations and that he was directing her in how to manage his image and presentation to the American public.

We can all comment and probably have a nest of shared and conflicting opinions on this. Our opinions don't matter. Satan has managed to wreck this marriage. You don't wreck a marriage without wrecking its drivers -- Saeed and Nagmeh. Most wrecks are due to driver error in the natural. No different in the spiritual.

God desires truth in the inner parts. I'm praying for that for them, for repentance, and for reconciliation.

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

I have not heard of this.

Just found this article, we must pray for them:

Wife of U.S. pastor freed by Iran files for legal separation
http://news.yahoo.com/wife-u-pastor-freed-iran-says-husband-threatened-173659033.html

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

My Brothers and Sisters,

Before we judge this situation plesse let us remember that our brother Saeed suffered for his faith in Jesus. He endured 3 1/2 years of persecution and suffering for the Lord Jesus Christ. Many times he was tempted to deny his faith by Iranian authorities. But our brother stood firm.

But indeed let's keep the Abdini family in our prayers. For the enemy despises those who stand firm for Jesus. What this family is enduring is of Satan. Let us pray that the enemy will not have ground in this marriage. Indeed let us pray that the victory of Christ will be seen in the grace of Jesus prevailing over this sad situation.

Also let us remember our brothers and sisters who are suffering in the shadow of the cross. Let us remember them in our prayers.

Posted by Blaine Scogin


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Oracio Jan 28, 2016

"And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing."-1 Cor. 13:3

Either Saeed has been a false convert or he needs deep repentance as a true believer. God knows. One can suffer greatly for the cause of Christ and still not be saved, just like one can be willing to suffer greatly for any other cause. Let us not be ignorant of the enemy's deceptions and devices brethren.

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DEADn Jan 28, 2016


Before we judge this situation plesse let us remember that our brother Saeed suffered for his faith in Jesus

Suffered or not, we are also talking about a marriage issue going on. Do we glory in his suffering while his marriage is having serious issues? That is hypocrisy considering the allegations against him. If she wanted nothing to do with his Christianity it would be a different matter.

One thing that puzzles me is what kind of contact did they have in the last 3 months? I was under the impression that only visitors had any contact with him and they were few.

John

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

Oracio one cannot suffer the the way Saeed did and be labeled a false convert. Or needing deep repentance. If anything 1 Peter 4:1 says he who has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin. There is a purifying aspect of persecution that tends to conform one more to the likeness of Jesus Christ.

In watching the interview with Saeed by Greta Van Susteren you see a man who is humble before the Lord. A man who has gone through suffering for Christ. A man that Satan has tried to destroy. But who through the grace of God endured much for Christ.

I hardly doubt the suffering Saeed went through were from a false faith. It would have been far easier for him to deny Christ and gain his freedom early then to endure the sufferings he did.

Suffering for the Lord Jesus Christ will either confirm or deny our faith in Christ. If you have a knife at your throat by a jihadist and you are told to either deny Jesus or die. Your faith is put on the line right there. Or if you spend years in prison, one that is literally a hell hole, and endure the things that Saeed did your faith is put on the line.

So Oratio, this brother's faith is not false. But his faith is more real than either you or I or anybody else in this forum put together.

Respectfully posted.

Blaine


sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

John the allegations against Saeed have not been proven. When the allegations came forth. The brother was in prison and could not defend himself.

Also has anybody considered that the charges being levelef again Saeed are coming from the enemy. We know the enemy hates those who stand for Christ when they advance His kingdom. The enemy could not destroy Saeed when he suffered for Christ in Iran. The enemy is seeking to destroy him here in America. Seeking to destroy his character.

All the more reason to keep the Abedini family in our prayers.

Blaine

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

Brethren I was reminded in this forum when Yosef Nardakhani's faith was called into question. He was an Iranian brother who was slated to be executed for his faith in Christ. But questions arose as to his belief in the Triniry. Yet his confession was Jesus Christ. And salvation was in Christ alone. Yet there were those in this forum who suggested he was a false convert.

And there have been those in this forum who have called into question the faith of Brother Yun and his suffering for Christ. Some have called into question the miracles that were recorded in his book did not happen.

And there have been those in this forum that have called into question the faith of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Did he truly suffer for Christ? Was he truly a martyr for Christ?

It is easy for us to sit behind our keyboards in the relative comfort and safety of our homes and make these judgments. And call into question the faith of the saints that have gone through persecution. I suggest before we start making Pontifical judgments. Let us walk in the shoes of the persecuted. Let us walk in the shoes of those who truly suffer for Christ.

My thoughts.

Blaine

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dolfan Jan 28, 2016

From our outsiders' perspective it doesn't matter who did what. There is a deep web of unknowns and hidden things. We can't diagnose anything here. There are tender reeds in Idaho right now. The witness of Christ is too important for us to venture guesses and offer opinions on what is happening. Let's pray.

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

Tim your words are wise. Indeed let us pray for the Abidinis. For the effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much.

Blaine

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Oracio Jan 28, 2016

If these allegations by his wife of porn addiction and abuse are untrue, where is Saeed's denial and denunciation of those allegations? If they are true, where is his repentant confession? It just seems too odd and unlikely that Saeed's wife would just make these things up for no reason.

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

Brothers and sisters,

Franklin Graham has been instrumental in the lives of both Nagneh and Saeed Abedini. If you do Facebook check out his facebook post regarding the sadness in the Abidini family. His counsel is very wise. Basically he is calling that we pray for this family. And pray that their marriage will be healed and restored.

Many saints around the world prayed for the release of this brother. The prayer call I moderate, Persecution Watch, invested 24 hours of straight prayer crying out for this brother's release. We all rejoiced when we saw the release of our dear brother. Now only to have to pray fervently for the healing and restoration of his marriage.

My brothers and sisters I ask that you please keep the Abidini family in your prayers. Pray that God will restore their marriage. Pray that Satan will not have the victory. But that the risen Christ will be pre-eminent in this situation.

I do not believe that God has answered our prayers to bring Saeed out of prison only to see his marriage destroyed. So please join me in prayer as we lift you up the Abidini family. And pray for the restoration and healing of their marriage.

Your brother in Christ,

Blaine

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Oracio Jan 28, 2016

We cannot simply blindly follow, endorse or admire someone when there are these types of serious allegations, no matter what kind of persecution they suffer. This reminds me of that Oneness Pentecostal lady who refused to give gay marriage licenses. So many Christians were jumping on her bandwagon and embracing her as a sister without using any discernment regarding her beliefs. Yet she ended up meeting with the Pope and shedding tears of awe because of it. There seems to be something in human nature that is easily prone to idolize individuals and place them on certain pedestals that belong only to God.

sermonindex Jan 28, 2016

Oracio I feel you are making judgments about a situation you do not have the facts on. Check out the Franklin Graham post on Facebook. I think our brother has a wise perspective regarding the Abidinis. Basically his call is to pray for the family. I agree with that call.

Blaine


sermonindex Jan 29, 2016

I'm not making judgments, but just an observation. In the Yahoo article, this does not sound like the enemy.

""I love my husband, but as some might understand, there are times when love must stop enabling something that has become a growing cancer," she wrote.

Naghmeh Abedini on Facebook apologized to her followers for not disclosing the abuse sooner.

"I sincerely had hoped that this horrible situation Saeed has had to go through would bring about the spiritual change needed in both of us to bring healing to our marriage," she said. "Tragically, the opposite has occurred."

In an interview at her parent’s home in Boise last week, Naghmeh Abedini had told Reuters that rebuilding their marriage after her husband's imprisonment would take time.""

She even alludes to rebuilding the marriage, although she makes the point that she is tired of being an "enabler".

This whole thing reminds me of Tom White and Voice of the Martyrs which to this day is so tragic.

VOM is another organization that spent a lot of money that was donated to them for an "opulent" headquarters.
http://www.wurmbrandmichael.com/

From Michael:
"Just take a moment and look at this miserable refugee camp in the Philippines picture published by VOM ( http://michaelwurmbrand.com/philippinescamp.pdf ) and compare it with the $28,000,000+ opulent headquarters built by VOM in Bartlesville, OK out of your sincere donations ( http://mcanawconstruction.com/gallery?id=24 ) AND ASK YOURSELF, "Where do my donations really go?" How can I allow the hoax of making donors think their undesignated donations raised by using the name of the Wurmbrand family are destined to persecuted widows and orphans while going in fact to support opulent constructions in the United States?"

sermonindex Jan 29, 2016

Julius the Reuters article said that they could not independently confirm the allegations made against Saeed. Also I do not think you can compare Tom White and Saeed Abidini. I'm sure that Tom White was drawing a nice salary from VOM them. Probably had a nice office in the VOM facilites. And Tom White did not come out of an Iranian prison suffering from internal injuries from beatings he had sustained for his faith in Christ.

On the other hand Saeed has nothing. He has suffered for his faith in Christ. He does not have a nice salary. He does not have a gleaming office. And short of a miracle of God. He may not have his wife and children.

But he does have the Lord Jesus Christ. If God sustain him while he was in prison in Iran. Then the Lord will sustain him through this trial.

I keep saying again. We need to pray for the albanyny family.

Blaine

sermonindex Jan 29, 2016

John 8:7

He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.

Brethren even if the allegations against Saeed are true. And only God knows if they are. My question is who among us is without sin that we can cast the first stone of Saeed? Can any brother in this forum tell me that they have not struggled with the issue of pornography or sexual sin? I doubt it very seriously.

Before we go judging the situation. Let us look at ourselves and judge ourselves.

My thoughts.

Blaine

sermonindex Jan 29, 2016

I don't know about Reuters, only what I read came out of his wife's mouth.

I agree with you that they both need prayer.

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romanchog Jan 29, 2016

It pains me to see, as I am sure it pains out Lord, how brothers in Christ so quickly throw a fallen brother under the bus, so to speak. If the allegations are true our brother needs to have others guide him, counsel him, and lead him to repentance. If the allegations are false, our sister needs to be restored. Both need prayer.

It saddens me how quickly we turn against a fallen brother. I felt great sorrow over the reports about KP Yohannan, but equal sorrow has come from tue words of condemnation I have seen here. He is still our brother. He now, more than ever, needs our prayers. God is not done with him. His ministry may fall apart and I'm okay with that, if that is the Lords will, but I am not okay from us turning our backs on him because his sin has been exposed. Now is the time for prayer for both of these men.

If my sin were exposed for all the world to see I would hope and pray that a sister would love me enough to fight for me in prayer. Perhaps my sin (or your sin) is greater than that of these men. How would you want to be treated if it were your life? How will the Lord treat them? He is the one we are to imitate.

I am reminded of the verse: A house divided against itself cannot stand. As children of God and followers of Christ we are "a house" and are called to stand together. The world ought to be awed by our love and support for one another, but they actually see us with contempt and play brother against brother for ratings. What shame for us.

Just as a matter of clarification, I am not condoning Saeed's or KP's actions. I am advocating for a different response.

In Christ,
Natalie

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