Indiana State Trooper Fired.......

The above title should not surprise you. We have an Indiana State Trooper who has been fired. And he is being taken to court. He has not been fired or taken to court because of excessive police brutality. Nor has he taken any money for a bribe. He has not been doing drugs. He has not abused those he's taken into custody.

So why has he been fired? And why is he being taken to court? Google story Indiana State Trooper fired....... he has been fired for sharing Jesus Christ with those he pulls over for traffic violations.

By the way this is not God Is Not Dead Part 2. But this is the real thing.

Brother Blaine

Set your search protocol for Indiana State Trooper fired for preaching Jesus. The story will come up on different news sites.

"Oh Bear there you go again! Seeing imaginary persecution everywhere!

And this officer had the gall to share about Christ, to hand out a track, & even put one of his stops on a prayer list at his local baptist church congregation where he attends. Man, he brought it on himself by not just doing his job & obeying the authority of the land to keep his mouth shut about God during working hours (like what the Nazi's told Christians about obeying authority to try to get them to keep their mouth's shut & not to help anyone or live out their faith in real action).

These type radical extreme lawbreakers bring it on themselves. It's not real persecution. Don't you know anything Bear?"

Sorry, I could just hear the unspoken comments of some & thought I'd go ahead & put them out there & get it out of the way.

May God bless this man for being willing to be a fool for the sake of Christ & the Gospel! I got threatened & found out later that I almost could have lost my job a couple times for similar things (1 for handing out tracks - and I was in sales paid for my numbers, not an hourly or something, & 1x for sending out an email after I had enough of the person worship after the death of Pope John Paul 2 exposing the Unbiblical lies of the RCC. That's when I found out my boss, his wife, my coworker, & the owne of the company were all Roman Catholics - I would have never known as they all just acted, spoke & carried on like pagan heathens to me). But the Lord kept me. May God Bless Him in this beyond anything he could ask, think or imagine.

Actually Jeff I could hear some of the comments coming in my spirit as I was posting this. Some would say the officer is not suffering for his faith in Christ. But he is simply getting what he deserved because he did not follow the procedures of keeping his religion and job separate.

But then I've heard that said about Ken Miller and Dietrich Bonhoeffer. If they had simply obeyed man they would then they would not have suffered.

Simply my thoughts bro.

Maybe this should be told to our brothers and sisters in the Middle East and other parts of the world. If they keep quiet about their faith in Jesus they won't suffer persecution.

Okay it's a beautiful spring day. Don't won't to get cynical. Out for a walk. :)

God bless everyone. :-)

Brother Blaine

Yeeup. Thought you would say that bro.:) Poor guy should not have shared about Jesus. He would stil be employed.

If Bonhiffer had kept silent about the Jews. Well he would have lived probabky to a ripe old age. If Ken Miller had not gotten involved with Lisa Milker's case. He would not be in Federal prison. If those four translators had not been involved in translating the scriptures in the vernacular of a people in a restricted nation. They would still be alive.

Yeeup. They say the safe route is always the best. Don't say anything about Jesus and you will be safe. Yeeup.

And I said I did not want to be cynical.

TMK,
But starting from & coming from that Classic case of "constitutional republic" (as if that really exists in its original form anymore anyways) Americanism thinking first, & Christian, Biblical, Doctrinal, Church History thinking second is actually part of the issue for believers IMHO.

Regardless of how anything makes you feel or not feel, this by definition is persecution. Period. Let's look at the dictionary definition of the word persecution:

"per·se·cu·tion
ˌpərsəˈkyo͞oSH(ə)n/
noun
hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.
"her family fled religious persecution"
synonyms:\toppression, victimization, maltreatment, ill-treatment, mistreatment, abuse, ill-usage, discrimination, tyranny; More
persistent annoyance or harassment.
"his persecution at the hands of other students"

I know in Greek the word used in the NT has one of its basic tenants the idea of "pressure applied". I'm not saying losing your job for witnessing on the job is the same as being beheaded for refusing to deny Christ. But they both fall under the umbrella of persecution. I gotta go & get some things today. May God bless you richly today as you seek & serve Him!

Just my thoughts/2-cents,
God Bless,
Jeff

TMK,
So what happens if all of society says you can't share your faith ever by law, at the risk of loss of job, loss of home, etc. (bear with me, go with me for a minute to the eventual obvious end of your thinking/scenario)? So if you aren't allowed to share Christ on your job, & then do, and you get fired its not persecution? If we just look at church history, the historical & current church world around now, how the Bible & dictionary define the word persecution, etc.,again I think that you have an "America-Centric" shaped view/terminology/rules, not necessarily heaven's (or Webster's, Strong's, etc.) view/definition. I think to a degree there is the "frog in hot water" effect that has been so slowly implemented & upped step by step for so long we can't call anything persecution but your exact scenario. The funny thing is that the devil is a sly/crafty fellow & as long as you just think it's lawful & ok to be quiet on his terms, he's ok. Your view doesn't hold up if you take it all to its logical ends, figure that our society will "step by step", "progressively" grow more hostile to the (true) Gospel message, etc. I'm not trying to hyper-sensationalize it either. Just not trying to minimize & explain it away with human logic & reasoning (& "Modern American" colored lenses on either).
God Bless,
Jeff

Okay let me ask a question. Not trying to be cynical. :-). In restricted Nations evangelism is forbidden. So if believers are sharing their faith in Christ and they are imprisoned, are they being persecuted?

After all, in a restricted nation, say a communist or Islamic nation, evangelism is forbidden. It is the law of the land. So if I follow the reasoning that Todd is laying out in this thread. Those believers in restricted nations that are sharing their faith in violation of the law are not being persecuted for their faith. There is simply suffering the consequences of disobeying the law.

Is that what I'm hearing?

Respectfully asked with curiosity.

Good verse bro.

TMK is spot on about this. This trooper would have been fired for proselytizing others into Islam or Judaism, so on that count it should not be cast as persecution against christians.

Jesus never told us to proselytize everyone, everywhere at every time. If He did then everyone on this forum is living each and every day in total disobedience to Christ. He did tell us to be as wise as serpents, to be aware of our surroundings and to live carefully as lambs among wolves.

But if the Holy Spirit directs us to do any of these things then we should obey Him and suffer the consequences.

When I was a youngster I worked for the County as a welfare assessor. I had to interview people to see if they qualified for monetary assistance. I was not allowed to proselytize but in my zeal I did it anyway:-) The people that I saw were very poor and I had no trouble getting them to "sign up" to become christians as they awaited my decision about giving them government money.

Eventually my boss had enough and fired me. I considered that I had taken the risk and was able to share Christ with many people. I never considered my dismissal as persecution...that would have been ludicrous even back then when I was a wet behind the ears 22 year old:-)

Brother, I just wonder if you enjoy creating these kinds of posts and all the dust they stir up? Are you bored or something lol.

Not trying to be ugly TMK, but I think sadly many don't "know it when it's right in front of them". If you can't share Christ at work without getting fired (& you can discuss other things), that by definition is persecution. When I was a kid, I would ask my dad where something was, if it was right in front of me but I didn't see it he would laugh & say, "boy, if it was a snake it would've already bit you". I think that's applicable here. Sorry, I just really do.
Blessings,
Jeff