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HOW does a Christian NOT sin?

sermonindex May 19, 2016

Brothers and sisters we have already had a thread that asked a question why does a Christian sin. I want to get practical. I want to get to the nitty-gritty. Thus I ask how does a Christian not sin?

Would appreciate your practical insights. Theologians please this is not your thread. This is a practical thread. Let us discuss ways how we can avoid sin. And please God.

Please let us stick to the scriptures. Let us keep the church fathers in the past. And the theologians in their seminaries.

Please practicality only.

Posted by Brother Blaine.

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Pnutty May 19, 2016


I am a toddler Christian. What I believe is that only Christ can do it, I can do nothing, just as He could do nothing were it not for the Father. When Christ isnt doing it, we are doing it and that is Sin and that is short of the perfection and that is not a work to be recognized and rewarded at Bhema. Surrender to Christ is it as he surrended to His Father onto death, but also every moment he walked, so therefore he never sinned.

We are dead to sin but we sin, anyone can see it. But it is not accounted to us. Why look at it? You sinned because you looked away from Christ, reliance on Christ to live through you makes us quit commiting sin. His Father could no more sin through Christ, then Christ could sin through us.

If this is all gobbeldy gook, well thats what toddlers speak.

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Sree May 19, 2016

I believe Christianity is practical (Livable). Even most of my posts in SI seeks to be practical. I find it very difficult to live a life of imagination.

Regarding sin, I understand that there are 2 types of sin. One you know clearly is a Sin (Conscious Sin) and another is something you do not know yet, but it is still a sin you are committing (Unconscious sins).

One example I can think of unconscious sins in my life is, I was not at all conscious that many of my messages and sharing in Church were given with an intention to project (exalt) myself above other fellow brothers and sisters. I was doing this sin without being conscious of it. But now God has given me light on my own intentions, now I know I have to correct it. Only when we near God more and more his light will show us our unconscious sins. It is like seeing your hand under a microscope that can show how many germs are in it. With naked eyes you cannot see them. The more we near towards God in our walk, the more our eyes are enlightened to see our own sins. We can only near God by overcoming our already known sins. When we still live in Known Sins, there is no point in asking God to show the unconscious sins that we commit! I can quote scripture for each one of these but I want to keep it practical.

There are certain things I know are wrong or sin (Conscious Sins). For example getting angry with my wife. Now I have to cleanse myself of it. Every time anger comes into my heart, I repent and seek God's grace to cleanse my heart. I ask for God's love to be poured into my heart so that I can love my wife. This is the only way I can overcome anger which is a known sin to me.

Another example is lust in eyes. Every time a lust enters into my heart towards another women, I run to Jesus, asking him to fill my heart with a desire for my wife alone. I cry to him that I want only my wife to be desire of my eyes. I tell him to give me contentment in this area. He gives me his grace. I also do my part which is to run away from an object of temptation (can be a women dressed provocatively).

If you observe in all the 3 cases I have put, they are all sins that are handled in the heart. So to me the battle ground has shifted from actions to heart. I NO Longer struggle with my actions as my heart itself is set clean. This is the secret I found to NOT Sin, which is to take the battle to your heart.

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JFW May 19, 2016

By loving Him:)

"If you love me you will keep my commandments"

It's actually very simple and quite practical....

Think about the time when you fell in love,... Nothing nor no one could turn you away from the person you loved, and you didn't "have" to do it but were compelled by the love in you to do it (good works).

So our Lord says "be zealous and repent and return to your first love and do the works you first did"

So maybe the question is why do we depart from our first love...?

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TMK May 19, 2016

Re: HOW does a Christian Not sin?

By dying - I mean literally physically dying.

Short of that, I still believe we must choose not to sin. I believe that the vast majority of sins occur because we choose to sin over choosing not to sin. I don't think we are tricked into sinning. We are most assuredly tempted but that is not sinning.

I still remember a quote I heard a long time ago that has always stuck with me: "sin fascinates- then assassinates."

sermonindex May 19, 2016

By. Dying. Yes.
By loving Him. Yes.
When I was about 8-10 years old at a family reunion one of my aunts said to me:"obey your parents" I felt like a big burden came off of my back. "Is that it?" "It is much easier than trying to be good" Before I always tried to be good but always felt not good enough. Now I felt clean and free.
Dying and loving him and obeying.
Zsuzsanna

sermonindex May 20, 2016

Oops. No post intended.

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AlmostHome May 20, 2016

I think everyone has touched on some element of how to not sin. Just reading through the replies is edifying and encouraging to me!

As someone who is constantly screaming (internally) at pastors, "Yes, I understand what you're saying but HOW? What's the practical application of this in our lives?!" I can relate to what Blaine is actually asking. (If I'm wrong, Blaine, please correct me. Sometimes I can over-analyze posts!)

Dying to self and loving God are definitely the ANSWERS to not sinning. But Blaine is asking HOW do we do that? HOW do we not sin? HOW do we die to self? HOW can we love God? Knowledge alone isn't enough. It must be applied to WORK.

All I can do is give my own method.

There is a period of time that occurs before a sin is committed. A time when the conscience speaks out to advise us that we know better; that what just crossed our mind that our body wants to do/say is wrong, or a lie. It's self-centeredness, pride, the lack of self-control and ego that goads us with, "Just do/say it! You've already done/said something like this a million times before anyway! What's one more sin for God to forgive you for? It's a small one anyway! Just do/say it! You feel better! You'll show that other person they shouldn't mess with you or treat you that way!"

You know those dozen or so thoughts that go through your mind in a twinkling of an eye before you let loose on that sin? THAT'S the time before the sin that I'm talking about.

Whenever I'm tempted to sin, off all things or of all people, Ronald and Nancy Reagan ALWAYS come to mind before I sin. (It really IS remarkable how many thoughts can run through your mind in a twinkling of an eye to a few seconds.)

I ALWAYS hear Ronald Reagan saying, "Well, Nancy says to just say NO!"

There's so much truth and maturity in that. Just say no. Here's an example: I got to work with my friend who has a carpet cleaning van today. We were shampooing the carpet of a vacant apartment that was recently renovated. One of the guys working on the renovations came in. As he passed by me, said he had some work to do in the bathroom. I smelled alcohol on his breath. I wanted to turn to my friend and say, "Looks like someone had a liquid lunch today."

As God is my witness, this was my entire thought process in just a few seconds:

"What? That's so rude! I may like to be funny once in awhile but I'm not a mean person! Still it would be funny and not really hurt anyone and my friend would get a chuckle out of it. Yeah, but at this man's expense, unbeknownst to him? All he did was come in to do a job! Do you know WHY he drinks during the day? Do you know his struggles or what he may be currently going through? Show some compassion."

Then 1 Peter 4:6 came to mind, "And above all things have fervent love for one another, for "love will cover a multitude of sins."

(Thought process continuing...)

"Sins aren't covered by jokes and gossiping. Jesus not only covered all of my sins, He forgave them completely.

I'm going to practice self-control and discipline and NOT say that to my friend. I want Jesus to be proud of me."

So, that's my practical way of dealing with sin: Ronald and Nancy Reagan and the short, but powerful phrase: "Just say NO!" It's possible to just say no. We just don't like going through the self-denial (dying to self part) or loving God more than ourselves. Odd, I know. But it works for me.

There IS a time that passes before we CHOOSE to commit sin. And it IS long enough to reason out and choose holiness. It IS enough time to turn away from that sin. Will we be controlled by self-discipline and the love of God and others? Or are we not filled enough with the Word and spending abiding time with Jesus? Are we instead filled with our own desires and self-centered thinking? "I can't help it" is a self-centered cop-out. Or, in today's humanistic vernacular, "That's just how I'm wired." Or, "Sorry if you don't like it but I'm not changing who I am."

It IS a choice. Just say no and choose Jesus. Choose holiness.

sermonindex May 20, 2016

I can totally understand this brother, thanks for the testimony. What sometimes happens to me is similar. When someone offends me often I can clearly see a choice in front of my eyes: take the offence or leave it.
It is also clearly presented to me that God does not want me to take the offence. The rest is my choice. There were times in my christian life when I did not see the situation this clear. I believe it was because I did not care, I did not pray, did not want to please God, did not even think of Him.
That time I always took offense.

Zsuzsanna

sermonindex May 20, 2016

Keith Daniel said this in one of his sermons:
This book will keep you from sin, and sin will keep you from this book. SOAK YOURSELF IN THE BIBLE...

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AlmostHome May 20, 2016

ZSUZSANNA SAID: by Tozsu on 2016/5/19 22:53:21

Keith Daniel said this in one of his sermons:
This book will keep you from sin, and sin will keep you from this book. SOAK YOURSELF IN THE BIBLE...

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Golly that sure is true! I think that's my favorite quote from Keith Daniel.

Even though this may not initially sound like "practical application," it really is. When we saturate ourselves in the Word, the Holy Spirit uses it to do many works in us, changing us more into the likeness of Jesus. When that happens, our desire to sin decreases as the ability to not sin increases.

John 3:30, "He must increase, but I must decrease." (Just like you illustrated in your previous post, Zsuzsanna!)

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TMK May 20, 2016

I just wanted to clarify my post- when I answered the question "how can a person not sin" by saying we must die- I didn't mean dying to self- I meant dying like when your body gets put in the ground. That is the only sure way to not sin.

Of course we aren't supposed to be sinning while our hearts are beating. That's where dying to self and all that stuff comes in.

But I still really think that we sin because we are a bunch of wimps. We allow the devil to push us in the chest like a bully saying "what are you gonna do about it, punk?" and far too often we say "nothing I guess."

sermonindex May 20, 2016

YOU ARE DEAD!

The real issue is you may still see yourself as somehow separated from Christ. Yes you do believe that Christ lives inside you but you think you are independent of Him.

AS a result you try to apply Christ to your independent self by the means of grace.

THIS WILL NEVER WORK!

There is no such thing as an independent self. Before you embraced Christ you were servant and slave of sin and the devil but now you HAVE BEEN MADE a servant and slave of RIGHTEOUSNESS.

There is no 3rd option available.

So the old you that was servant and slave of sin was crucified and buried with Christ. When Christ arose from the dead - the new you was raised with HIM - with HIS LIFE.

Now the truth is that you are not separated from Christ. You just do not have Christ but Christ Himself is NOW you!!!!

You have died and Christ Himself is your life. This was an exchange of lives - not a change. Your old life was taken away in death and buried. Then Christ gave you His life in the place of your old life.

Before you where just an container of sin and the devil's life - now you are a container of Christ's life.

A container only contains the life of another it has NO life in it self or any ability to apply anything to itself.

Here is the real truth - you are not separated from Christ - you are a container of HIS LIFE.

Christ has united Himself to you - you are NOW one with HIM!

CHRIST HIMSELF IS NOW THE REAL YOU! IT IS HIS LIFE expressing it self in your body (container)

Gal 2:20. "I am crucified with Christ: neverthless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me."

Here is the key "I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me" YET NOT I - BUT CHRIST who is now me!

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TMK May 20, 2016

Tuc- I get your gist but you are taking it way too far.

Cause and Effect

There are many "cause and effect” passages in scripture. Here are several:

”¢ "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord[cause] will be saved [effect].” Acts 2:21
”¢ "Come near to God[cause] and He will come near to you[effect]” James 4:8
Ӣ "Any of you who does not give up everything he has[cause] cannot be my disciple[effect]. Lk. 14:33
”¢ "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed[cause], you can say to this mulberry tree, ‘be uprooted and planted in the sea,’ and it will obey you[effect].” Lk. 17:6
Ӣ "I have hidden your word in my heart[cause] that I might not sin against you[effect]. Ps. 119:11

Similarly, Prov. 3:9-10 contains a cause and effect: Honor the LORD with your wealth, with the firstfruits of all your crops[cause]; then your barns will be filled to overflowing, and your vats will brim over with new wine[effect].

In all of these examples, what we do is the cause; what God does is the effect. Why did God "set things up” this way? A primary reason is that He wants to relate to us; He wants to partner with us in His enterprises. God can do anything He wants, but He chooses to use us. What a privilege, and what a responsibility! If we refuse to be the "cause,” then we limit how God can "effect” His blessings on us. Not only that, but we limit our worth in God’s Kingdom.


sermonindex May 20, 2016

2 Cor 4:6-7, "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

1 John 4:16-17, "And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him. Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world."

because as he is, so are we in this world.

Added this

Col. 3:3-4, "For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.

When Christ, who is our life

sermonindex May 20, 2016

John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Tuc, I agree with you, I would conclude that if we abide in Christ we will bear fruit. But what would be your practical advice: How to abide? I say that we abide by obedience, and here I agree with TMK.

sermonindex May 20, 2016

Sister not trying to be funny. How do we abide in Christ by obedience?

One aspect may be that we abide or walk in faith in Jesus. For Paul mentions in Romans 1:5 the obedience that comes from faith.

Just a thought for reflection.

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yuehan May 20, 2016

lol, maybe bearmaster could've added a caveat:

"with testimonies appended please!"

sermonindex May 20, 2016

by Tozsu on 2016/5/20 11:23:01

John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Tuc, I agree with you, I would conclude that if we abide in Christ we will bear fruit. But what would be your practical advice: How to abide? I say that we abide by obedience, and here I agree with TMK.

Amen. Tozsu.

Not a new concept:

Deu_30:20 That thou mayest LOVE THE LORD THY GOD, AND that thou mayest OBEY HIS VOICE, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.


1st - God must be your Father in order for you to Love Jesus.
John 8:42 "Jesus said unto them, IF GOD WERE YOUR FATHER, YE WOULD LOVE ME..."

2nd - When you receive Christ, His love is "shed abroad in your heart". You are given a new heart, the heart and spirit of Jesus/Holy Spirit.

Rom 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because THE LOVE OF GOD IS SHED ABROAD IN OUR HEARTS" by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

3rd - You are now able to please God (love and obey) because you are IN CHRIST and can now WALK IN THE SPIRIT. You have been given everything (Jesus) that pertains to "life and godliness". (2 Peter 1:3)

Rom_8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

4th - You now desire to please God (love Him) by obeying His voice. As long as you are in this world, living in the flesh, your love (heart) will be tested.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, AND KEEPETH THEM, HE IT IS THAT LOVETH ME, and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jesus will manifest Himself to those who love Him.

John 14:21 "...and keepeth them...I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

The Spirit and the Word give us understanding for how to walk in love in all circumstances, (even on forums).

1Th 4:1 Furthermore then we beseech you, brethren, and exhort you by the Lord Jesus, that as ye have received of us HOW YE OUGHT TO WALK AND TO PLEASE GOD, so ye would abound more and more.

God will save those who obey (love) Him.

Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation UNTO ALL THEM THAT OBEY HIM;

God does not have any foster children. His children are HIS, born of His Spirit and they all love Him.

John 8:42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me:

sermonindex May 20, 2016

by bearmaster on 2016/5/20 11:39:04

Sister not trying to be funny. How do we abide in Christ by obedience?

One aspect may be that we abide or walk in faith in Jesus. For Paul mentions in Romans 1:5 the obedience that comes from faith.

Just a thought for reflection.

By obeying the Spirit and the Word to you, personally. How? By making a choice to walk in the Spirit and not the flesh.

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