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browny May 22, 2016

I have just listened to a sermon of brother Tozer on Angels.
in my view , a beautiful and clear Sermon
He mentions that the angels came to Jesus and served Him . Also in others parts of the Bible we read about " ministering Angels."

I wonder what this means ? It says for example, that angels baked bread...........
I don't want a discussion about -encounters with angels- !!!
Only the Bible speaks a lot about angels .
Therefore, it is good to know more of this. Let's have a discussion in the biblical truth.
What the NAR is telling about all encounter stories with Angels I reject as Bible truth. This is, in my opinion all New Age stuff...... and also a spiritual reality ........reality yes, only not of my Heavenly Father.

My question is .... how do Angels ministering today?

The sermon I was;

http://ia600803.us.archive.org/10/items/SERMONINDEX_SID2002/SID2002.mp3

browny.

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dohzman May 22, 2016

I believe you only have to look at how they ministered in the Bible to know how they minister today. Why would the Lord change?

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browny May 23, 2016

Yes, you a right dohzman.

Thank you.

Shalom,
browny

sermonindex May 23, 2016

yeah, that's right dohzman. I remember Charles and Frances Hunter in the 80's. At their conferences they would be going on and on about their 20ft angels and could tell the audience where they were standing on the stage and what color suits they were wearing. It was pitiful to behold. And what was most pitiful is all the people that were swallowing it, "hook, line and sinker".

sermonindex May 23, 2016

Just did a bit of reading about "angels" - quite interesting.
The Biblical meaning is not quite the same as the traditional "religious" meaning

"a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God "

John the Baptist was also an "angel" , a messenger

I think it is important to try and look at it in a wider context.We know that Jesus has now all power and authority in heaven and on earth.
Therefore I believe He is the author of the (godly ) messages.
He can send them in different ways, in a "natural " way through a preacher or through a dream or many other ways.

A very useful tool to find out how the word is used in the Bible is "Strongs Concordance "

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sermonindex May 23, 2016

I think they are talking about "ministering spirits", Markuskiwi. Real angels.

sermonindex May 23, 2016

Dear brother Markuskiwi,

Just to let you know that the site you are using for the strongs concordance is one even my wife used early on as a new believer but they endorse keeping the ten commandments and this is the error of the book of Hebrews of going back from Christ to the law. Just thought it would be good for you not to endorse them as we do not want to promote these teachings to saints.

I did a quick search, here are other strong concordance searches, I am sure you could find better that is not tied into these wrong teachings.

http://www.yrm.org/strongs/

followthelamb May 23, 2016

Brother Markuskiwi,

The site you linked to I used to visit when a brand new believer. It can be be confusing and is very dangerous because they teach that the New Covenant is simply a renewed Old Covenant and that we are required to observe all the feast days, clean/unclean meats, the Torah including details such as tassels, etc.

The Lord set me free by His Word as I sought His truth as contained in the New Testament. He especially used these verses to set me free as a new Christian:

1 John 3:22-23

Galatians 3:10-13 and Galatians 4:21-26

There are some useful resources on the site but they can be found on other sites, praise God

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browny May 23, 2016

Thank's warning for this site Greg and Followthelamb.
And also for giving a new and "safe" link.
http://www.yrm.org/strongs/

Shalom,
browny.

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dohzman May 23, 2016

Personally I like Blue Letter Bible On line I won't link it here but it is easy enough to find. A good resource to used all the way around.

sermonindex May 23, 2016

Thank's warning for this site Greg and Followthelamb.
And also for giving a new and "safe" link.
http://www.yrm.org/strongs/

Brother,

Unfortunately this is not a safe link but another Jewish Roots Movement website!!! I am sorry for doing this without knowing it. From their about page:

"We observe the seven annual Feast days, along with the seventh-day Sabbath. The clean food laws of Leviticus 11 have never been rescinded in the New Testament (more correctly, "Covenant"), and neither have any of the commandments and statutes given in the Old Testament."

Also apologies to the Original Poster as we did not want to side-track the valid discussion going on. Blue Letter Bible is a great option.

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browny May 23, 2016

Oooohhhh!!!!!

....Lets stay by the Blue Letter Bible.....

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TMK May 23, 2016

Since the word translated "Angel" can also be translated as "messenger" is there a sure fire way to tell what the correct translation is? In some cases context will make it obvious- in others like the head coverings passage it may not be so onbvious.