Not entirely sure what to think about this.
On one hand, It would be great if Trump truly got born again and repented and changes were made. I am sure many have been praying for his salvation. On the other hand I am wondering if he is just pandering to the evangelical crowd and telling them what they want to hear to get votes.
We were all baby Christians at one time..
We need to pray and pray and pray..
In Him
Eagleflying
Time will tell...it always does. "Pray for those in authority that you may lead a quiet and peaceable life."
With all due respect to Dr Dobson...that sounds like wishful thinking to me.
Even a so-called "baby" christian should have repented from his sins and made confession of Jesus Christ as Saviour and Lord...and should be bearing fruits of that repentance and faith
Dobson says more about himself than Trump there. If Trump is indeed a Christian in need of maturation, then Dobson ought to be helping him lay down all worldly hope, all worldly power and ambition and to quietly serve Jesus in love and truth. But Dobson has always played the role of would be kingmaker and nothing has changed from him.
This is the needed sanction by a suppossed elder in Christendom. What it is is politics..........bro Frank
Well said Tim!
You shall know them by their fruits. In other words, if it's real, we will see it.
To say Trump is a baby Christian is to be ignorant imo. Trump has stated, several times, that he has nothing to be sorry for and then to call him a baby christian? He esteems Norman Vincent Peal as awesome? I think what is going on here is Dobson is part of the Republican religious right and he needs to point 'his people' in a direction of which to vote so to his stopping down to call Trump a baby christian is in that direction. Dobson........don't be a hypocrite! Get out of politics so you don't turn to lying.
Does not the article clearly state that he had recently come to faith in Christ Jesus?
So if that testimony is true, and we have at this point no reason to doubt it, would he not be a newborn?
Can't speak for all the saints here on SI,... But it took me a long while to really become a proper disciple and become a productive servant bearing fruit...
While because of the political context of this mans situation some may doubt his conversion is true, let us remember that our God is above all earthly rulers and political systems and schemes. So maybe we should pray privately rather than cynically throw rocks publicly...
I mean if it does turn out to be genuine, I hope to read the public testimonies of repentance here on SI from all whom found it meet to publicly denounce it...
Our tongues are a thing we'd do well to bring under submission to the Lord~
Christians will debate whether he is a new Christian or not, but what Christians should not do is be mean spirited. This has turned many off to Christ, because that is what the world is...mean spirited and hateful toward one another. They put down one another and take advantage of one another. Jealousy and envy reign amongst them. If the world sees all those things in the Church they see us as no different than they are, only with a different belief system, not a living God (Savior).
Sadly, the world does see these things in the visible church and more.
IDK if Trump has had a conversion, genuine or not. My point was about Dobson. Trump owes me no explanation. I pray that he is or will be saved, for sure. Not that it matters, but I like his public persona. If I didn't, I still pray for his salvation, as I do for others whose personalities I am not fond of. Jesus loves them and didn't die for them so I would like them.
dolfan..IDK if Trump has had a conversion, genuine or not. My point was about Dobson. Trump owes me no explanation. I pray that he is or will be saved, for sure. Not that it matters, but I like his public persona. If I didn't, I still pray for his salvation, as I do for others whose personalities I am not fond of. Jesus loves them and didn't die for them so I would like them.
That's a lot of logic Tim, maybe there is hope here after all, I may come back and start posting again. Now for all the stone faced Christians, I was just kidding about the hope thing. :-)
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