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Women in Ministry or speaking in Assemblys - Edgar Reich

sermonindex Jul 17, 2016


Women in Ministry and Assemblies

This article includes many quotations from the Teaching Ministry of David Servant. His teachings on Women in Ministry can be accessed through: http://www.heavensfamily.org/ss/dmm/dmm_12

Not all agree on women's roles in the church and often there is sharp division. Women in some Churches are restricted from certain areas of ministry within the church that have to do with speaking and leadership. Some restrict women from speaking at all during church services or assembly meetings. Some allow for women to speak and teach. Some churches allow for female pastors;
Most of these disagreements hinge on various interpretations of Paul's words regarding women's roles found in 1 Cor. 14:34-35 and 1 Tim. 2:11-3:7. These scriptures will be the focus of our study, particularly towards the end. We encourage the reader to investigate all scripture references. We believe it is necessary to understand the full scope of Scripture on this subject. What follows is an overview
Many societies consider women inferior to men. What does the Bible say?
In the Book of Genesis we read about God creating human beings, male and female:

And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them (Gen. 1:27).
The woman was created to be her husband's helper (see Gen. 2:18). This does not prove her inferiority, but only reveals her role in marriage. The Holy Spirit is given as our helper, but He is certainly not inferior to us. Rather, the Holy Spirit is superior to us!
The role of the woman was changed because of sin. As Adam incurred the wrath and curse of God, so also Eve incurred the wrath and a curse from God:
Genesis 3:16

King James Version (KJV)
16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Here Scripture tells us that it was a penalty from God for the woman to be ruled over by men. Many woman fight this judgment from God and it creates havoc within the marriage. Of course a wise husband will include his wife in all decisions and discuss options, accepting his wives help to reach the right conclusions. Adam’s penalties are in Genesis 3:17-19. The wrath of God and His judgments on Adam included a curse on the whole world i.e. the ground, hard labor and the death penalty. God had mercy on us by sacrificing His Son Jesus Christ to pay the death penalty for our sin.
In Galatians we read about the equality of the soul through being one in our Lord Jesus Christ:
Galatians 3:28

King James Version (KJV)
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

In Matthew 22:29-30 the Lord Jesus Christ confirmed that there is a changed relationship in heaven. We will be as the angels in heaven and we will not marry:

Matthew 22:29-30

King James Version (KJV)
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Women in Ministry and Leadership in the Old Testament?

God-called a woman, the sister of Moses and Aaron, a prophetess and worship leader named Miriam (see Exodus 15:20). In Micah 6:4, God categorized Miriam right with Moses and Aaron as being one of Israel's leaders:
Indeed, I brought you up from the land of Egypt and ransomed you from the house of slavery, and I sent before you Moses, Aaron, and Miriam (emphasis added).
Of course, Miriam's leadership role in Israel was clearly not as dominant as Moses. Yet as a prophetess, Miriam spoke on God's behalf, and I think it is safe to assume God's messages through her were directed at not just the women, but the men of Israel as well.
Another woman whom God raised up as a leader in Israel was Deborah, who lived during the times of Israel's judges. She, too, was a prophetess, and was just as much a judge over Israel as were Gideon, Jeptha and Samson during their lives. We are informed that 'the sons of Israel came up to her for judgment" (Judg. 4:5). So she rendered decisions for men, not just women. There can be no mistaking this: A woman told men what to do, and God anointed her to do it.

Like most women whom God calls into leadership, Deborah apparently faced at least one man who had difficulty receiving God's word through a female vessel. His name was Barak, and because he was skeptical about Deborah's prophetic instructions for him to go to war against Canaanite general Sisera, she informed him that the honor of killing Sisera would go to a woman. She was right, and a woman named Jael is remembered in Scripture as the lady who drove a tent peg through sleeping Sisera's head (see Judg. 4). The story ends with Barak singing a duet with Deborah! Some of the lyrics are full of praises for both Deborah and Jael (see Judg. 5), and so perhaps Barak became a believer in 'women's ministry" after all.

Queen Esther is a wonderful example of Leadership where through wisdom from God she was able to turn around a wicked plan which would have destroyed her people. In so doing she risked her life.

Another woman who is mentioned in the Old Testament as being a well-respected prophetess is Huldah. God used her to give reliable prophetic insight and instruction to a man, the troubled king of Judah, Josiah (see 2 Kin. 22). Again we see an example of God using a woman to instruct a man. Most likely, Huldah was used by God in such a ministry with some degree of regularity, otherwise Josiah would not have had such faith in what she said to him.

But why did God call Miriam, Deborah and Huldah as prophetesses? Couldn't He have called men instead?

Certainly God could have called men to do exactly what those three women did. But He didn't. And no one knows why. What we should learn from this is that we had better be careful about putting God in a box when it comes to whom He calls to ministry. Although God normally chose men for leadership tasks in the Old Testament, sometime He chose women.

Finally, it should be noted that all three preeminent examples of female ministers in the Old Testament were prophetesses. There are some Old Testament ministries to which no women were called. For example, there are no women who were called to be priests.

Women in Ministry in the New Testament?
Interestingly, we also find woman being called of God as prophetesses in the New Testament. When Jesus was just a few days old, Anna recognized Him and began proclaiming His messiah ship:
And there was a prophetess, Anna the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was advanced in years, having lived with a husband seven years after her marriage, and then as a widow to the age of eighty-four. And she never left the temple, serving night and day with fastings and prayers. And at that very moment she came up and began giving thanks to God, and continued to speak of Him to all those who were looking for the redemption of Jerusalem (Luke 2:36-38; emphasis added).
Note that Anna spoke of Jesus to all those 'who were looking for the redemption of Jerusalem." That would of course include men. Thus Anna could be said to have been teaching men about Christ.
There are other women in the New Testament whom God used in the gift of prophecy. Jesus' mother Mary is certainly in that group (see Luke 1:46-55). Every time Mary's prophetic words are read in a church service, it could be said that a woman is teaching the church. (And God unquestionably honored womanhood by sending His Son into the world by means of a woman, something He could have done by many other means.)
The list continues. God foretold by the mouth of the prophet Joel that when God poured out His Spirit, both sons and daughters in Israel would prophesy (see Joel 2:28). Peter confirmed that Joel's prophecy was certainly applicable to the new covenant dispensation (see Acts 2:17).
We are told in Acts 21:8-9 that Philip the evangelist had four daughters who were prophetesses.
Paul wrote of women prophesying in the church gatherings (see 1 Cor. 11:5). It is clear from the context that men were present.
With all of the scriptural examples of women being used by God as prophetesses and to prophecy, we certainly have no good reason to be closed to the idea that God might use women in such ministries! Moreover, there is nothing that would lead us to think that women can't prophesy to men on God's behalf
We have conclusively established that women can serve in the office of prophetess (if called by God). What about other types of ministries? It is enlightening to read Paul's salutations in Romans 16 where he praises a number of women who served in ministry for the sake of God's kingdom.
I commend to you our sister Phoebe, who is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea; that you receive her in the Lord in a manner worthy of the saints, and that you help her in whatever matter she may have need of you; for she herself has also been a helper of many, and of myself as well (Rom. 16:1-2; emphasis added).
What an endorsement! We don't know exactly what ministry Phoebe fulfilled, but Paul called her 'a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea" and 'a helper of many," including himself. Whatever she was doing for the Lord, it must have been quite significant to warrant Paul's endorsement of her to the entire church in Rome.
Next we will read about Prisca (Priscilla), who, along with her husband, Aquila, had such a significant ministry that all the Gentile churches appreciated them:
Greet Prisca and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus, who for my life risked their own necks, to whom not only do I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles; also greet the church that is in their house. Greet Epaenetus, my beloved, who is the first convert to Christ from Asia. Greet Mary, who has worked hard for you. Greet Andronicus and Junias [or Junia, as the KJV translates it, which is feminine] my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are outstanding among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me (Rom. 16:3-7; emphasis added).
Priscilla (just mentioned above and also known as Prisca), wife of Aquila, was involved in teaching at least on a small scale. For example, when she and Aquila heard Apollos preaching a deficient gospel in Ephesus, 'They took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately" (Acts 18:26). No one can debate that Priscilla helped her husband teach Apollos, a man. Additionally, twice in Scripture Paul makes mention of both Priscilla and Aquila when he writes of 'the church their house" (see Rom. 16:3-5; 1 Cor. 16:19), and he calls them both 'fellow workers in Christ" in Romans 16:3. There is little doubt that Priscilla had some active role in ministry along side her husband.
Regarding Junias, it would seem logical to think that a person who is 'outstanding among the apostles" could only be an apostle. If the correct translation is Junia, then she was a female apostle. Prisca and Mary were workers for the Lord.
Greet Ampliatus, my beloved in the Lord. Greet Urbanus, our fellow worker in Christ, and Stachys my beloved. Greet Apelles, the approved in Christ. Greet those who are of the household of Aristobulus. Greet Herodion, my kinsman. Greet those of the household of Narcissus, who are in the Lord. Greet Tryphaena and Tryphosa, workers in the Lord. Greet Persis the beloved, who has worked hard in the Lord. Greet Rufus, a choice man in the Lord, also his mother and mine. Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas and the brethren with them. Greet Philologus and Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas, and all the saints who are with them (Rom. 16:8-15; emphasis added).

During the time of Jesus women also fulfilled many tasks. When Jesus was resurrected, an angel commissioned at least three women to teach Jesus' male disciples. Those women were instructed to tell the disciples that Jesus had risen and that He would appear to them in Galilee. But that is not all. A short time later, Jesus Himself appeared to the same women and commanded them to instruct the disciples to go to Galilee (see Matt. 28:1-10; Mark 16:1-7). It is significant that Jesus chose to first appear to women and then to men. Second, if there was something fundamentally or morally wrong with women teaching men, one would think that Jesus wouldn't have told women to teach men about His resurrection, hardly a trivial piece of information, and one that He could have delivered on His own (and in fact later did). No one can argue with this fact: the Lord Jesus instructed women to teach a vital truth and give some spiritual instructions to some men.

Is Paul’s Problem Passage in 1 Cor. 14:34-35 a rhetorical question based on 1 Cor. 14:36?
Now that we have some understanding of what much of the Bible tells us about women's roles in ministry, we are better able to interpret the 'problem passages" in Paul's writings. Let us first consider his words about women keeping silent in the churches:
Let the women keep silent in the churches; for they are not permitted to speak, but let them subject themselves, just as the Law also says. And if they desire to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is improper for a woman to speak in church (1 Cor. 14:34-35).
First, some question, for several combined reasons, if these are Paul's instructions or his quotation of what the Corinthians had written to him. First, it is clear that in the second half of his letter, Paul was responding to questions the Corinthians had asked him in a letter (see 1 Cor. 7:1, 25; 8:1; 12:1; 16:1, 12).
Second, in the very next verse, Paul writes what could be considered his reaction to the Corinthians' blanket policy of silencing women in the churches:
Was it from you that the word of God first went forth? Or has it come to you only? (1 Cor. 14:36).
The King James Version translates this verse in such a way that makes Paul sound even more amazed at the attitude of the Corinthians:
What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? (1 Cor. 14:36).
In either case, Paul is obviously asking two rhetorical questions. The answer to both is No. The Corinthians were not originators of God's word, nor was God's word only given just to them. Paul's questions are obvious rebukes aimed at their pride. If they are his reaction to the two verses that immediately precede them, they seem to say, 'Who do you think you are? Since when do you make the decrees regarding who God can use to speak His word? God can use women if He desires, and you are foolish to silence them."
This interpretation seems logical when we take into consideration that Paul had already, in the same letter, written about the proper way for women to prophesy in the churches (see 1 Cor. 11:5), something that requires them to not be silent. Moreover, just a few verses after those under consideration, Paul exhorts all the Corinthians[1], women included, to 'desire earnestly to prophesy" (1 Cor. 14:39). Thus he would seem quite contradictory to himself if he was indeed laying down a blanket command for women to keep silent in church gatherings in 14:34-35.
But let us assume for a moment that the words in 1 Cor. 14:34-35 are Paul's original words, and that he is instructing women to keep silent. How then should we interpret what he says?
Again, we would have to wonder why Paul was making a blanket command for women to keep completely quiet in church gatherings when he said in the same letter that they can pray and prophesy in church gatherings. Moreover, surely Paul was aware of the many biblical instances we've already considered of God using women to speak His word publicly, even to men. Why would he completely silence those whom God has often anointed to speak?
The correct analysis of these passages seems to dictate that Paul could not have meant for women to be completely silent whenever the church gathered. Keep in mind that the early church gathered in homes and shared common meals. Are we to think that the women said absolutely nothing from the time they entered the house to the time they left? That they didn't speak while they prepared or ate the common meal? That they said nothing to their children the entire time? Such a thought seems absurd.
If where 'two or three are gathered" in Jesus' name He is among them (see Matt. 18:20), thus certainly constituting a church gathering, when two women come together in Jesus' name, must they not speak to one another?
No, if 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 is indeed Paul's instruction, he was simply addressing a small problem of order in the churches. Some women were out of order in some way in regard to asking questions. Paul did not mean for women to be completely silent for the entire meeting any more than he, when giving similar instructions a few verses earlier to prophets, intended for them to remain silent for the entire meeting:
But if a revelation is made to another [prophet] who is seated, let the first keep silent (1 Cor. 14:30; emphasis added).
In this case, the words 'keep silent" mean 'temporarily refrain from speaking."
Paul also instructed those who spoke in tongues to remain silent if there was no interpreter in the gathering:
But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God (1 Cor. 14:28; emphasis added).
Was Paul instructing such people to be completely silent during the entire meeting? No, he was only telling them to be silent in respect to their speaking in tongues when there was no interpreter. Note that Paul told them to 'keep silent in the church," the same instruction he gave to women in 1 Cor. 14:34-35. So why should we interpret Paul's words to women to keep silent in the church to mean 'keep silent for the entire meeting," and then interpret his words to out-of-order tongue-talkers to mean 'refrain from speaking during specific moments in the meeting"?
Finally, note that Paul was not addressing all women in the passage under consideration. His words have application only to married women, because they are instructed to 'ask their own husbands at home" if they have questions.[1] Perhaps part or all of the problem was that married women were asking questions of other men besides their own husbands. Such a scenario could certainly be considered inappropriate, and could reveal some degree of disrespect and lack of submission to their own husbands. If that was the problem Paul was addressing, that could be why he bases his argument on the fact that women should be submissive (obviously to their husbands), as the Law revealed in many ways from the earliest pages of Genesis (see 1 Cor. 14:34).
In summary, if Paul is indeed giving instruction regarding women keeping silent in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, he is only telling married women to keep quiet in regard to asking questions at inappropriate times or in a way that was disrespectful to their husbands. Otherwise, they may prophesy, pray and speak.
Is the second Problem Passage in 1 Tim. 2:11-14 to be used primarily within the family unit in light of many other passages in the New Testament where women were in Ministry?

Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression (1 Tim. 2:11-14).
This verse specifically refers to a woman and a man ( not the Church ) and for the woman not to exercise authority over a "man”. This verse appears to address the family unit.
Paul knew of Miriam, Deborah, Huldah and Anna, four prophetesses who spoke on God's behalf to men and women, effectively teaching them God's will. Surely he knew that Deborah, a judge over Israel, exercised some degree of authority over men and women. Surely he knew that God had poured out His Spirit on the day of Pentecost, partially fulfilling Joel's prophecy of the last days when God would pour out his Spirit on all flesh so that sons and daughters would prophesy the word of God. Surely he knew that Jesus commissioned some women to take a message from Him to His male apostles. Surely he knew of his own words of approval, written to the Corinthian church, regarding women praying and prophesying during church gatherings. Surely he remembered that he had told the Corinthians that any one of them might receive a teaching to share with the body from the Holy Spirit (see 1 Cor. 14:26). So what did he intend to convey when he wrote these words to Timothy?
Notice that Paul appeals to two related facts from Genesis as the basis for his instruction: (1) Adam was created before Eve and (2) Eve and not Adam was deceived, and she fell into transgression. The first fact establishes the proper relationship between the husband and wife. As taught by the order of creation, the husband is to be the head, something that Paul teaches elsewhere (see 1 Cor. 11:3; Eph. 5:23-24). When God's intended order in the family is neglected, Satan can gain entrance. Humanity's whole problem began in the garden when the relationship between a man and his wife was out of order””Adam's wife was not submitted to him. Adam must have told his wife God's instruction regarding the forbidden fruit (see Gen. 2:16-17; 3:2-3). She, however, didn't follow his instruction. In a sense she even exercised authority over him when she gave him the forbidden fruit to eat (see Gen. 3:6). It wasn't Adam leading Eve in that case; it was Eve leading Adam. The result was disaster.
Women in Ministry and Leadership roles today:

Clearly, women can be "workers" in ministry based on the many scriptural examples and evidence above.
We must be careful not to limit God’s calling of women if the Father wishes to do so. Sometimes we meet anointed woman of God where there is absolutely no question that they have been called of God to minister and teach us.

Examples of such a persons’ include Corrie ten Boom, and many of the Godly Missionary women who have gone out all over the World to teach and to prophesy and to bring in a harvest of souls. Another great example to us are the House Churches of China where 60% of House Church leaders are women. Now we might question this but by their fruit we shall know them: 25 000 to 30 000 Chinese are coming to the Lord each day in 2014 because of the witness and love of House Church leaders and members.

We do not want to be dogmatic. We ask readers to carefully search the Scriptures and understand all related passages. Each local assembly needs to be in unity according to the word of God to obey and follow in the way of Jesus Christ. The counsel from the Word of God shows how God used sisters in the past and how He will use Sisters in the future, especially in a rapidly expanding church. Sadly we have the other
problem in the West of a stagnant dying church that is not growing and
just shuffling around Christians who debate, argue and divide
constantly. This is sin and wrong and God is much more pleased with the other churches in the world that are obeying His word and making disciples, James 1:22, Matthew 28:18-20, and are seeking the power of the
Spirit Acts 1:8.

From our perspective we believe God intends for Sisters to participate in a vibrant recovery of the Church in the West and will use women to prophesy, pray and speak based on the Word of God. We want to follow Acts 2:16-18 which include daughters and maid servants prophesying and 1 Corinthians 11:5

Acts 2:16-18

New King James Version (NKJV)
16 But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel:

17 ‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God,
That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh;
Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy,
Your young men shall see visions,
Your old men shall dream dreams.
18 And on My menservants and on My maidservants
I will pour out My Spirit in those days;
And they shall prophesy.


1 Corinthians 11:5

New King James Version (NKJV)
5 But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, for that is one and the same as if her head were shaved.

We believe women should honor God’s word and cover their heads when praying or prophesying.

We believe that women are perhaps only restricted in ministry in a very small sense. In so many other ways, God wants to use women for His glory, and He has been doing that for thousands of years. Scripture speaks of many positive contributions that women have made to God's kingdom, some of which we have already considered. Let us not forget that some of Jesus' closest friends were women (see John 11:5), and that women supported His ministry financially (see Luke 8:1-3), something that is not said of any men. The woman at the well of Samaria shared Christ with the men of her village, and many believed in Him (see John 4:28-30, 39). A female disciple named Tabitha is said to have been 'abounding with deeds of kindness and charity which she continually did" (Acts 9:36). It was a woman who anointed Jesus for burial, and He commended her for it when certain men complained (see Mark 14:3-9). These examples, and Missionary women being used by God worldwide, and women used by God in China greatly, should encourage women to rise up and fulfill their God-ordained ministries. We need them all! We need each other. We are the body of Christ consisting of men and women and using our respective gifts.

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