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Some sound advice needed please.

sermonindex May 30, 2005

For some time now God has been doing something in me like nothing before. At the moment i am struggling to read His precious word and praying seems to be like lifting something too heavy for me to lift. Yet i know He knows what He is doing and doing what is best for me. I acknowledge Him in all my ways inwardly praying some days really crying to Him.I have been under attack from those closest to me, i live in one of the worst areas in the whole of the UK for crime (in fact the BBc were over here to get the peoples views on the place and why they still live here!) and i can't take it anymore, we are seriously struggling financially, we just had our car m.o.t'd and on the way back from getting it taxed (90pounds it cost) it broke down and has been that way for a good few weeks now so we have no car, I struggle when my husbands at work because my precious two year old needs constant attention which is proving impossible with a baby (and my four year old is now off school for two weeks) and i have no one to help, i'm still waiting for the finances to come through to pay for the E.B.C in July and i've set myself till Tuesday before i let them know........it goes on. Each of these things doesn't seem a lot but when it's been going on for a long time and as they build up theres only so much you can take! I'll pray about one thing and another comes along and so on. I have never known anything like it! It seems to be getting worse. What makes it harder is that there are others to think about 24 hours a day others who need me so i just have to roll my sleaves up and get stuck in. But i cry to the Lord "how much longer?".Where i live can really get to you. Theres so much crime and violence that it begins to affect you spiritually.The evil in this place has overwhelmed me. I moved from one violent neighbour only to be faced with even more noisy neighbours than i had before and when you have young children it's very hard indeed! I feel like im stuck in sinking sand slowly sinking.The Lord has taken all material things like money, the car and left us with the basics, food and water. But that doesn't seem to be the issue it goes much deeper. I can literally feel God working in me and it really hurts. Everyday is a struggle. I think whats really pulled the rug from under my feet is that the very place i thought i might find support i have been attacked. God really has me in such a place that i can only turn to him and cannot move! There are times when i feel im about to pack my bags but i know i can't. Each new day brings more trials worst than the last.Does anyone know where im coming from? Does anyone have any scripture verses that i can meditate on as i can't read the way i normally do at the moment. A thread was started called suffering/sanctification that got me writing this i wasn't going to post but to be honest i need the advice of others who have been here in this place of testing. Can anyone help?In His Love, Geraldine

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janneju May 30, 2005

Geraldine, I completely understand. A while ago, when I was going through such a lengthy "trial", and at my lowest point, God stepped into my life and gave me guidance. I have had to withstand many attacks since to stick to that guidance, but God has strengthened me, and is seeing me through. I have a new strength now, praise God.He will not fail you. I got used to stopping all the time to unburden my heart to Him, all through the day. But you have to persist, so that you begin to recognise when things are getting you down, and nip it in the bud, by going and talking about it to the Lord, to maintain your peace. I started making a habit of this some time ago and now it has become natural. We can read God's word and just like it says in the parable of the sower in Mark Chapter 4, the "word", which was intended for us, can be taken away from us. The very word that would have guided or delivered us. For example, the following scripture is one which I feel is necessary to be applied all day and every day, until it becomes a part of our life, especially through trials, but it can get lost to us, for our anxiety comes back again and again and we forget God's instructions to us. Phil. 4:6,7 tells us "Be anxious for nothing; but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God...And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.If by anyway, my experience has been of help to you, I would emphasise simply talking to the Lord about all your worries as soon as you begin to worry, and concentrating on obeying the word of God which applies to you by putting it into action.God bless you.

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Nellie May 30, 2005

Geraldine,God will not forsake you, even though you feel like He has, at times.He wants us to depend totally on Him, but our flesh wants to help Him.I've never faced what you are facing, but I do know from experience, that God will bring you forth.I know what it is like to be seperated from my Family, and be put in situations where I knew only God could deliver me.He did deliver me, and He has delivered me lots of times since then.He is faithful, He cannot deny Himself.He knew you before He placed you in your Mothers womb. He loves you.Personally I feel like Christians have a hard time believing that God loves them.I struggled with this for awhile.He does love us, and it doesn't depend on what we do, but on what He has already done.It is the Blood of Jesus that cleanses from sin.God gave me this song when I was in a trial, I hope and pray it will help you.His Grace is Sufficient.He sees our every heartacheHe knows our every fear.He made us in His imageI know We're in His care.Though storm clouds gather round usLet's not be in despairFor our Saviour is with us,Our burdens He will bear.When the road is dark before youAnd the River deep and wideYou can trust the One who saved youHe will never leave your side,When the tempest gather round youAnd the Mountain seems so high,You have a Friend who walks beside you.You see, He loves, You and I.I do not know why He had to sufferUpon the Cross of Calvary,But His Grace is SufficientHis Blood has pardoned You and me.So let's turn our eyes on JesusThe precious Lamb, who set us freeFor His Grace is sufficientTo cover, you and me.I pray for you Sister, that God will make a way for you where seemeth no way, that He will make the crooked paths straight, that He will give you His Peace and His Rest.That your car will be fixed.That you will bloom for Him, no matter where He has you.That He will supply your need according to His riches in Glory.In Jesus Name.God Bless youNellie

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dohzman May 30, 2005

There's alot wrapped up in that short plea, sis. I'll address the reading of the Word of God first. What has been a practice for me personally and has leveled me spiritually is the book of Proverbs. There's one proverb for every day (western calendar---30 days or 31 days). I focus on one day say it's the 3rd Of May---I read proverbs chapter 3. on the 4th I read proverbs ch 4 ect.... I do this month in month out year in year out. When I took this action I made it a life long decission. Now if I miss a day because of what ever , I dont go backwards but I read only the number that correspondes with that day. That'll help with the feeling of guilt that we sometimes accept when you can't spend time reading as you feel you need.BTW that guilt also hinders your prayer life and I suspect that's why you are experiencing such a hard go of it . Now for your payer life...try reading a book called," Practice of the Presence of God", It's free on the net, you'll find it here http://www.practicegodspresence.com It's simple and easy to apply. Also I was wondering if you and your husband attend a local fellowship of christian believers? Before I proceed I'll wait to hear your response to that question. Blessings, Bro. Daryl

sermonindex May 30, 2005

Also I was wondering if you and your husband attend a local fellowship of christian believers? Before I proceed I'll wait to hear your response to that question. Blessings, Bro. DarylThank you brother. Yes we do, we attend church on sunday, a prayer meeting on Tuesday and another on Wednesday with our church. My in-laws are pastors of the church. I have read " Practice of the Presence of God", and have just blessed my husband with it. There was a chapter i read that really challenged me when i read it and i meditated for some time to really get the revelation of it.I have had an amazing time with the Lord today after my pastor encouraged me with a cd to listen to. But now as im typing my next door neighbours are getting really drunk and shouting in the street as my children are playing in the back garden and have to listen to it all. Their music is ridiculously loud!!! I dont think i can take another year of it. :cry: I have also just been informed that my husband will be going away with one of the individuals he supports to a cruise in four weeks time, so i know that week will be hard for me.Im not normally a negative person so being like this is really getting me down.

sermonindex May 30, 2005

Also thank you Nellie and janneju for your replies they were very ebcouraging and mean so much. :-)

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moreofHim May 30, 2005

Geraldine,I cannot say that I have been in your exact position but I do know that i have felt and thought some of the same thoughts as you- even very recently "i don't think I can take it any more" "how much longer?" "why me?" In other words, "Lord, why aren't you doing anything about this right now? Can't you see what I'm going through?"Just this past weekend I found myself feeling sorry for myself and my situation and of course, one thing turns into a hundred things.The Lord finally got a hold of me and said "you are only responsible for you. You are only responsible for what i have told you to do- so go and do that. Don't look at what anyone else is doing- what is that to you? Stop thinking about "you" and start thinking about others and ME"-- ouch. That straightened me up right away. :)Then I also got a nice revelation about verses such as "Be anxious for nothing....." We all know what this verse says to do, we have read them and continue to do so when we need to. But something our pastor said this weekend really hit the spot. he said that whenever God gives us an "action", He always proceeds it with "who He is!" Before we can follow through with a command or action, we must see God ANEW. We must get a revelation of who He is and where He is.How do we "be anxious for nothing, etc..." First we must backtrack to the verse proceeding this one:Phil 4:5 Let your graciousness be known to everyone. The Lord is near.When we realize that the Lord is NEAR or AT HAND- when we see Him as He is, all powerful and all knowing and all caring- He is NEAR TO YOU- then we can then follow through with "being anxious for nothing..."When we get our focus off of us- and onto Him and how great and awsome and worthy He is- we can begin to be at peace.I hope you don't think that I am belittling your situation. I know that you concerns are real. All I know is that God is more REAL than our concerns :) He is faithful, but we must try to take our focus off of "things" and situations" and put them onto Him.I will keep you in prayer the next few days!! The Lord is near to you! Have hope! and be blessed!In His perfect love, Chanin

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dohzman May 31, 2005

Hi sis., Have you and your husband let your local fellowship know about your finicial needs? and your desire for a different place to live? It's always good to start with a few close friends in church and get these folks praying. I believe the Lord has placed everything to meet the practical needs within each body of believers. There could be some help there? As for your neighbors? Let me ask you one question, "if the Lord put you and your husband there for a short time to pray for and possibly witness to thoughs who will go to eternal hell without you two, would you be willing stay for Jesus' sake and the gospel?"" I don't presume to know that that's the purpose of God for your life there, but I just ask a question for which only you two can answer and that to God himself alone. One of my favorite Psalms--- Ps 46 I trust you'll recieve some comfort from it, may the God of all Grace quicken it into life in your heart. Bro. Daryl

sermonindex May 31, 2005

God has been doing something in me like nothing before. At the moment i am struggling to read His precious word and praying seems to be like lifting something too heavy for me to lift. Yet i know He knows what He is doing and doing what is best for me. I acknowledge Him in all my ways inwardly praying some days really crying to Him.Dear Geraldine,I recognise what you're describing and was too pig-headed when I was going through it to admit it was a struggle - at one level - but, perhaps because of that and feeling isolated, I assumed God would go on speaking to me (as He was wont to do) - and He did (of course). In fact, I soon found Him more 'with me' in the circumstance, than I had ever known before - before, when I'd thought I had to bring myself to Him in an already perfected state. Nevertheless, whenever I closed my eyes to pray, all I could see was blackness; but, He was very quick to answer prayer. In fact, only days before, the Lord had spoken to me from verses in Psalm 13911 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light [are] both alike [to thee]. {hideth...: Heb. darkeneth not} {the darkness and...: Heb. as is the darkness, so is the light} I was not trying to hide from the Lord, rather, it was that I couldn't see Him; so I was comforted by two thoughts - that He knew where I was and could hear me even if I could not 'see' Him, and, although I could not see where I was going, the darkness did not hide 'the way' forward, from Him. .... Retrospectively, this is obvious, but at the time, my confidence in His ability to see in my dark was crucial to my holding my nerve and pressing on into the blackness with Him.I allowed myself to believe in Romans 826 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what [is] the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to [the will of] God. And, I used to put my head in my hands often and prayed in tongues until I felt restored. I'd heard Susannah Wesley (mother of 17, including John and Charles) had used to put her apron up over her face to pray, often, and had trained her children not to disturb her for those minutes.If I learned one single thing in those days, it was how to reach through to the Lord immediately and to trust in His instantaneous leading. Again, looking back, I see that He shifted the emphasis of my life and believing, from what I could do, to what He could do. He answered many tiny prayers, a confidence I had picked up from Don Francisco's old Duke and Duchess song, in which the rich live in obscene wealth and outside the crowds cry out for a crust of bread; oblivious to their fault, the rich ignore their cries, but 'high above' the God of love 'hears every little prayer'.At times like these, as you look to the Lord, you are putting your roots deeper down into the water of Life. This is where you draw your strength and increase. If you can possibly rejoice and thank the Lord and praise Him for what He is doing in you, it can make a difference to how you feel and how you cope. I've never been able to organise my Bible readings, and so I fully accord with dohzman's advice and to not feel guilty about not being able to keep up a routine. Over the years, there have been times when routine was possible and others when I've had long breaks from regular Bible reading. At that time of blackness, if the Lord brought a scripture to my spirit and I couldn't find it easily, I used a Young's concordance to find it and followed through any key-word(s) He seemed to be speaking most loudly, until I'd completed an intense Bible study on it, in between making meals and generally doing what mothers do. Some of these meditations lasted many days and I read large chunks of scripture at a time. But, it was always focused on a study relevant to an aspect of my situation right then, as God would have me 'see' it.I've also picked up you have three under fives. You are blessed to have a husband who is also the Lord's, and you're still trying to get to church ... how many times a week? I know you have to go regularly - like once a week - but, there is nothing wrong with consolidating your new family of five at this stage in your family's development, by taking some extra time at home together. In the overall scheme of life, a few months will shrink as they pass into history, but, you can never get this time back if you don't take it now. On a different sort of practical note, you said Where i live can really get to you. Theres so much crime and violence that it begins to affect you spiritually. The evil in this place has overwhelmed me. I moved from one violent neighbour only to be faced with even more noisy neighbours than i had before and when you have young children it's very hard indeed! I feel like im stuck in sinking sand slowly sinking.Remember that the power of evil is not in the same league as God's power. I have never lived in the circumstances you describe, but I know what I'd be doing day after day - I'd lay my hand on the wall through towards the noisy neighbours and pray for them, as many good things as I could think of, as well as for grace to bear their desperate behaviour. You've got to believe that praying will make a difference. But, I would also ring Environmental Health every time their music / noise reaches antisocial levels and keep a diary of the noise, every time you report them, whether an officer attended etc. Although you might feel this is not a very 'Christian' thing to do, I believe it comes under the category of being salt to the world. Others who may be too frightened to say or do anything may be grateful. And I would not be beyond praying for them to move, unlikely as it may seem that they would. The very act of not giving up on them or possible solutions from God, helps to cultivate hope and faith and great rejoicing and thankfulness for every answered prayer. Despite the French 'Non!' you have a theoretical 'right' to a quiet life.Now, I may be wrong, but I suspect you think this is so far beyond reach, that it's too much to hope. But still, I commend to you, prayer. If you can find it in your heart to be methodical about praying for your other near neighbours, too, the Lord can work wonders as His blessing falls all around and your noisiest companions find themselves increasingly isolated. This is not a promise (from me) but it is definitely a possibility. Don't under-estimate the impact of a Christian family in a neighbourhood. Without being told you are (believers) there will be many who know, instinctively, that you are the Lord's and you may find support from unexpected quarters - perhaps even, lifelong friends for the future. But remember, Jesus did not commit Himself to man and that's not what I mean here, either. But, there are some very decent other people facing exactly the same problems as you are - but without God - to whom you can be a BIG blessing.I feel you need to pray for these things like you're beating on a door which will open eventually. The spiritual 'noise' and chaos will yield as you learn to lay hold on God to make the difference.

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crsschk May 31, 2005

Wonderful Dorcas!Had the exact verse in Ps 139 come to mind earlier this morning after reading this.Geraldine, there is some wonderful counsel here from these brethren and have little to add short of different trying circumstances bringing forth a nod and a groan in the spirit. Times like these to have someone else also bearing the weight and keeping you in prayer, just knowing can bring relief to your soul. Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Psa 126:6 He that goeth forth and weepeth, bearing precious seed, shall doubtless come again with rejoicing, bringing his sheaves with him. Will keep you in prayer before the Lord.

sermonindex May 31, 2005

there is some wonderful counsel here from these brethrenYes! Thank you all!I must say i have done the following for many years now;I'd lay my hand on the wall through towards the noisy neighbours and pray for them, as many good things as I could think of, as well as for grace to bear their desperate behaviour. You've got to believe that praying will make a difference.But i will now set myself to do this everyday, to keep knocking on the door until God answers!As for your neighbors? Let me ask you one question, "if the Lord put you and your husband there for a short time to pray for and possibly witness to thoughs who will go to eternal hell without you two, would you be willing stay for Jesus' sake and the gospel?"I believe it's Gods will that we are here at the moment. Let me share with you briefly something that has been going on these past few weeks...A young lad in the downstairs flat opposite is part of a notorious family here. When he moved in with his girlfriend and their young baby his music was loud and he always had a gang of youths gathered outside. One day the old lady in the flat opposite him was keeping a friends car on her drive and the same youths were caught steeling the car. Things weren't looking good for this young lad Adam. His next door neighbours are a backsliden christian family who attended our church (the grandfather still does). When the car was stolen my husband Aaron went over to talk to Adam and say these things could not go on or he will get evicted. Surprised that someone had the decency to tell him how the neighbours felt Adam began to slowly change his ways, a shock for me. Aaron became someone he looked up to (even though there was only a gap of about 5 years between them, Aaron being older.)Whenever his music was too loud we would ask him to turn it down. Then Adam went through periods of completely ignoring us for reasons we didn't know of. Then as my husband went outside one of Adams BIG friends threatend to punch my husband because he thought he was looking at him the wrong way. So my husband went back indoors and we began to pray about the situation. The following day Aaron went over to speak with Adam and thats when everything came out. Adam thought all the neighbours had complained to the council about him but this simply wasn't the case, in fact we thought we were getting on! As it turned out his next door neighbours had complained and took out an injunction against him because they thought he was going to beat up their son. Yet we later found their son was prvocking Adam. They also complained about all the rubbish in his garden. When we challenged him on it he said he had no means to get it to the tip, so my husband offered to help. Later that day the guy that threatened Aaron came over and apologized and we eventually cleared Adams garden. At the same time Aaron shared our faith. Adam has been a good neighbour since and if he steps out of line we can pull him up over it. Glory to God!!!I think the last straw for me in regards to living here was when the children were playing in the front garden and suddenly the police descended on the area in great numbers, the helicopter and police plane circling above. As it turned out the shop across the street had two young lads hiding out with a gun. Thank God noone was hurt and i praise God for keeping all the children safe.Daryl, you wrote; Have you and your husband let your local fellowship know about your finicial needs? and your desire for a different place to live? It's always good to start with a few close friends in church and get these folks praying. I believe the Lord has placed everything to meet the practical needs within each body of believers. There could be some help there? Yes, this is where some of the attack is coming from. I recently shared with them my desire to go to EBC and that i had been accepted to go. Instead of support they were horrified i would even contemplate going so far and that i should stay at home and go out here in our own streets. My pastor wasn't keen on the idea and would rather i take up his teaching on evangelism. It was announced in a prayer meeting and everyone began to argue about it while i sat there dumbfounded. Daryl, i couldn't believe what my ears were hearing and what my eyes were seeing. I think the reason things have been really getting to me is because of the lack of support from my breathren. :-( Yet as Dorcus wrote i think all thats left for me to do now is to;pray for these things like you're beating on a door which will open eventually. The spiritual 'noise' and chaos will yield as you learn to lay hold on God to make the difference.I thank God for all who have given me such good advice that have reminded me on what i should be doing. I had just given up hope because the situation has gone on for so long and the only time i have for prayer is either very early morning or in the evening when the children are in bed by which time im exhausted. I suppose i must just press on but this time set myself to keep beating on that door until i get an answer!In His Love, Geraldine

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Spitfire May 31, 2005

Geraldine, I saw your post yesterday and just began to pray for you and your family. As I was praying, I quickly remembered that you were going to EBC and how ecstatic you were upon realizing that your prayers had been answered. I just really felt that this attack and test you have suddenly come under is just a part of the spiritual "price" you are having to pay to attend this Boot Camp. The enemy would love to turn you back and discourage you. I prayed that God would renew your vision and encourage you by his spirit and give you eyes to see what he sees. I know it must be hard to be living in a neighborhood like that, but I'm sure God's grace is sufficient for you there. You know what I thought about? Elizabeth Elliott. Have you ever read the book, Through Gates of Splendor? Well, what I was thinking about was about how Elizabeth, after her husband was murdered by the Aucas, went into the village where it happened with her 3 year old daughter and continued the work which her husband and the others had begun! That's hard for me to fathom how she could have felt safe. But, if God be for you, who can be against you?You just work on your thoughts. One thing God has taught me is to recognize when my thoughts take me "out" of faith. Keep your vision ever before you with faith in the God of the promise. I'm excited that the enemy felt he needed to pressure you. That's a good sign you're doing something right. :-D Love you. I'll continue to lift you and your family in prayer. Dian.

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DezCall May 31, 2005

Dear sister,I received a quote on my mail yesterday. Of course there is at times a gap between "trying to hold on" and "reality" in our life. A desire to believe, but the reality of despair...but...it doesn't change the truth. It only reveals that without Christ we can do nothing. I cannot fathom what you're going through, but I pray that these simple words may give you that little comfort and encouragement to "hold on" and "press on". He who calls you is faithful, who also will do it. (1 Thes 5:24)Well...here is that quote:Don't doubt in the dark what God has shown you in the light.I prayed for you. Paul

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crsschk May 31, 2005

Ah Geraldine some bittersweet things here.The situation with....I recently shared with them my desire to go to EBC and that i had been accepted to go. Instead of support they were horrified i would even contemplate going so far and that i should stay at home and go out here in our own streets. My pastor wasn't keen on the idea and would rather i take up his teaching on evangelism. It was announced in a prayer meeting and everyone began to argue about it while i sat there dumbfounded. Daryl, i couldn't believe what my ears were hearing and what my eyes were seeing. How many times we have heard similar things, one thing for counsel and consideration but instead of encouragement...I think the reason things have been really getting to me is because of the lack of support from my breathren. But alas! There is this quirky cyberspace place, God knows the hearts that bleed and grieve and intercede here. We are here for you sister! Be of good cheer!A chunk of gold here...You just work on your thoughts. One thing God has taught me is to recognize when my thoughts take me "out" of faith2Co 10:5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; Was just reading...Of late I feel painfully convinced that I do not pray enough. Lord, give me the spirit of prayer and of supplication. Oh, what a cause of thankfullness is it that we have a gracious God to whom to go on all occasions! Use and enjoy this privilege and you can never be miserable. Who gives thanks for this royal privilege? It put's God in everything, His wisdom, power, control and safety. Oh, what an unspeakable privilege is prayer! Let us give thanks for it. I do not prove all the power of prayer that I wish. ~ (Lady Maxwell of Edinburgh)Thus we see that the remedy for nonpraying is praying. The cure for little praying is more praying. Praying can produce all things necessary for our good.For this excellent woman praying embraced all things and included everything.... (from a letter) she tells her friend that she wants "more faith. Cry mightily for it, and stir up the gift of God that is in you."Whether the need was a small secular thing as a servant, or a great spiritual grace, prayer was the means to attain that end and supply that want. "There is nothing," she writes to a dear correspondent, "so hurtful to the nervous system as anxiety. It preys upon the vitals and weakens the whole frame, and what is more than all, it grieves the Holy Spirit." Her remedy, again, for a common evil, was prayer.How prayer disburdens us of care by bringing God in to relieve and possess and hold! The apostle Paul says:"Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus." Phi 4:6,7From E.M. Bounds ~ The Weapon of Prayer.the only time i have for prayer is either very early morning or in the evening when the children are in bed by which time im exhausted.Following you here and still, recall the "Practicing", "Without ceasing", You can pray as you breath, as you work, as you drive and even in between thoughts. Just to keep drawing back to the Center, imperfect for sure, but that we might keep our thoughts fixed...Heb 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. Boy, I needed to hear myself say all this! Praise God, thanks sister! :-D That the Lord would draw you to Himself all the day long. You have our supplications

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rookie May 31, 2005

Sister Geraldine,You are not alone in the sufferings you mention. In the book of Psalms we often hear the cries of David. David at times is a very lonely man. You can hear the cries of his heart and yet he always ends in the same way, basically, "I will trust in the Lord." Listen to some of his thougts in these Psalms 11-13.Psa. 11:0 To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. Psa. 11:1 \tIn the LORD I put my trust;\tHow can you say to my soul,\t“Flee as a bird to your mountain”? 2 \tFor look! The wicked bend their bow,\tThey make ready their arrow on the string,\tThat they may shoot secretly at the upright in heart. 3 \tIf the foundations are destroyed,\tWhat can the righteous do? 4 \tThe LORD is in His holy temple,\tThe LORD’S throne is in heaven;\tHis eyes behold,\tHis eyelids test the sons of men. 5 \tThe LORD tests the righteous,\tBut the wicked and the one who loves violence His soul hates. 6 \tUpon the wicked He will rain coals;\tFire and brimstone and a burning wind\tShall be the portion of their cup. 7 \tFor the LORD is righteous,\tHe loves righteousness;\tHis countenance beholds the upright. Psa. 12:0 To the Chief Musician. On an eight-stringed harp. A Psalm of David. Psa. 12:1 \tHelp, LORD, for the godly man ceases!\tFor the faithful disappear from among the sons of men. 2 \tThey speak idly everyone with his neighbor;\tWith flattering lips and a double heart they speak. 3 \tMay the LORD cut off all flattering lips,\tAnd the tongue that speaks proud things, 4 \tWho have said,\t“With our tongue we will prevail;\tOur lips are our own;\tWho is lord over us?” 5 \t“For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy,\tNow I will arise,” says the LORD;\t“I will set him in the safety for which he yearns.” 6 \tThe words of the LORD are pure words,\tLike silver tried in a furnace of earth,\tPurified seven times. 7 \tYou shall keep them, O LORD,\tYou shall preserve them from this generation forever. 8 \tThe wicked prowl on every side,\tWhen vileness is exalted among the sons of men. Psa. 13:0 To the Chief Musician. A Psalm of David. Psa. 13:1 \tHow long, O LORD? Will You forget me forever?\tHow long will You hide Your face from me? 2 \tHow long shall I take counsel in my soul,\tHaving sorrow in my heart daily?\tHow long will my enemy be exalted over me? 3 \tConsider and hear me, O LORD my God;\tEnlighten my eyes,\tLest I sleep the sleep of death; 4 \tLest my enemy say,\t“I have prevailed against him”;\tLest those who trouble me rejoice when I am moved. 5 \tBut I have trusted in Your mercy;\tMy heart shall rejoice in Your salvation. 6 \tI will sing to the LORD,\tBecause He has dealt bountifully with me. God is his focus, his salvation. This work that He does in you Geraldine will bring you to the point where He will give you similar understanding that David possessed.Listen for the daily manna that comes for His words in Scripture. He is faithful to overcome.In ChristJeff

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dohzman May 31, 2005

:-( sorry to hear about the break down in your local fellowship. It seems that sometimes leadership in local churches isn't really to encouraging when it comes to anythiong outside of that fellowship, and that's a shame. I'll keep you in prayer that The God of all grace will give you and your family favor in the sight of all. Blessing in Christ Bro. Daryl

sermonindex May 31, 2005

Hi again Geraldine,Yes, this is where some of the attack is coming from. I recently shared with them my desire to go to EBC and that i had been accepted to go. Instead of support they were horrified i would even contemplate going so far and that i should stay at home and go out here in our own streets.A friend of mine who lived in the south was dating a young man from Manchester. He assured us that his mates thought he was mad for having a girlfriend 200 miles away, as none of them would have thought of starting a relationship with someone beyond their very near locality. I wonder if there is a little of this in the reaction you received at church?I would encourage you to continue to believe in the validity of hearing different people speak and minister. God uses this to confirm His word to our hearts - when you know that a preacher could not possibly know anything about your circumstances, preferences, difficulties and he still brings the word of God to your heart with dazzling accuracy, this is of great comfort. It also enables you to respond to God with a freshness and conviction which can have ebbed away when faced repeatedly with the same small, inter-related? group of Christians.How prayer disburdens us of care by bringing God in to relieve and possess and hold! ...Thus we see that the remedy for nonpraying is praying. The cure for little praying is more praying. Praying can produce all things necessary for our good....You can pray as you breath, as you work, as you drive and even in between thoughts. Just to keep drawing back to the CenterAmen, amen, amen!Depending how much time you spend at the kitchen sink, it can be a blessing, also, to post up a hymn to sing, according to the Lord's leading. Even if you don't sing it often, this can be a great help, while the usefulness of the particular hymn lasts - and a good way to learn the words to be ministered to you in the future, by the Holy Spirit.As Jeff was saying of David, here are some lines from Madame Guyon, who was imprisoned in the legendary Bastille prison (Paris) for her faith. I've never seen the first verse before, but you may feel it applies to you, just a little. One of my favorite tunes, Walton, does not seem to be online, but if you know it, (to We sing the praise of Him who died!) it seems to lift these words in a particular way, right up to God.Tune: Elim (Hesperus)http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/o/g/ogodlove.htmTune: Williamshttp://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/l/t/lthsasmt.htmO thou, by long experience tried,Near whom no grief can long abide;My love! how full of sweet contentI pass my years of banishment!All scenes alike engaging proveTo souls impressed with sacred love!Where'er they dwell, they dwell in thee;In heaven, in earth, or on the sea.To me remains nor place nor time;My country is in every clime;I can be calm and free from careOn any shore, since God is there.While place we seek, or place we shun,The soul finds happiness in none;But, with a God to guide our way,'Tis equal joy to go or stay.Could I be cast where thou art not,That were indeed a dreadful lot;But regions none remote I call,Secure of finding God in all.My country, Lord, art thou alone;Nor other can I claim or own;The point where all my wishes meet;My law, my love, life's only sweet!I hold by nothing here below;Appoint my journey and I go;Though pierced by scorn, oppressed by pride,I feel thee good--feel nought beside.No frowns of men can hurtful proveTo souls on fire with heavenly love;Though men and devils both condemn,No gloomy days arise from them.Ah, then! to his embrace repair;My soul, thou art no stranger there;There love divine shall be thy guard,And peace and safety thy reward.About the money, I know God has perfect timing in all things and it is always a test of faith to wait on Him for the outworking of His will; so, I would not be disillusioned if it doesn't come through in time, this time, as I've heard the testimonies of others who, when all things come together and happen they know exactly what God has accomplished through making them wait (over and above their original 'plan'). I don't want to dint your faith or hope AT ALL, but, I see this situation lays you open to be discouraged and I seek to avert such an outcome, as, God always has things in hand. Oswald Chambers calls it the 'intimacy of God's silence'. Is this what you have regarding EBC? For sure, this cannot be cultivated or manufactured.

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