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RogerB Jul 27, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLpGqGDDADdlnDI9ZQY0Fs0sd_hwpEQBhP&v=WwuUSkriLKs

Breaking: Russia Commander Warns Of Preemptive Strike on NATO Forces

When a Russian Commander tells you that Russia will not back down, that President Putin has tried to warn western media, but his words have fallen on deaf ears. When the leaders of Russia warn that NATO is escalating tensions that could lead to war. When a Russian commander tells you even the year that these tensions could lead to a preemptive strike, then it is time someone wake-up!

sermonindex Jul 27, 2016

I know crazy.

I have a few dreams from the last several years ago with Russians in them (when Russia wasn't really "the news" like they are now either).

One of them I will never forget. This angel was standing over the couch where we were all sitting & the phone rang (old School type land line phone). He answered it & spoke in Russian to the person on the other end, but somehow I knew what he said. He told them it was time & to commence in the attack. I could see a serious sobriety in this angel that wasn't messing around or to be trifled with. As soon as he hung up the phone, I saw some kind of airplane (like a bomber) flying overhead.

I knew this represented the resolve of the Russian armies once called to war. Faces set like a flint while everyone was distracted, playing video games, watching TV, etc. It was surreal. And I woke up heart pounding & in a cold sweat. That was probably like 3-3.5 years ago or so?

Totally lines up with the prophetic visions of men like David Wilkerson, Dimitri Dudamen, Henry Gruver, TD Hale, John Paul Jackson, etc. too

sermonindex Jul 27, 2016

Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

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Just FYI - I'm not "troubled".That feels like a straw man when you share these things & people go straight to that. Jesus actually tells Jerusalem when to "run for the hills" in the Olivet Discourse, told the church through Agabus when to store up food for a coming famine, & has done several such things down through history by the prophetic gift and prophetic insight (& He speaks through dreams & visions like He said He would in the Last Days too).

And these weren't just "rumors of wars" but a dream (dreams actually) I had personally.

And Jesus also spoke of "when you see all these things..." We can know it is near even at the door. He was saying don't be worried, fearful, overwhelmed. He wasn't saying, "stick your head in the sand & don't ever even give it a thought or speak of it ever."

sermonindex Jul 27, 2016

Well said Jeff,

Proverbs 22:3 A prudent man foreseeth the evil and hideth himself, but the simple pass by and are punished.

I have made a variety of preparations in my life for my wife, myself and my 5 children. Not from fear, worry or concern but because the bible tells me its wise. Some would read take no care like the birds to mean just sit on your couch and wait for the grocery store to drop off some food. I would say consider the ant.

Marc mc

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TMK Jul 27, 2016

Ok guys. Am I supposed to believe that nuclear annihilation of the planet is imminent and not one major news source says anything about it?

Please give a reasonable explanation how that is possible. Note I said reasonable.

EDIT: plus this Paul Craig Roberts guy, the source of the information on the video, appears to be a loon.

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For sure God does provide the birds with the worms and grubs in the insects and seeds. But the birds still have to get out there and dig around for them. At least that's what I see when I look out my back window.

And so there is responsibility on our part for preparation. But there are those in this forum who would be cry that as fear.

Anyway just some thoughts.

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dolfan Jul 27, 2016

Todd, I didn't watch the video. I'm only trying to walk this out from the Scriptures and the Lord's own dealing in my heart, mind and spirit.

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TMK Jul 27, 2016

Wise move, Tim.

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Ditto, Todd and Tim.

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Romans 8:35-39
Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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RogerB Jul 27, 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLpGqGDDADdlnDI9ZQY0Fs0sd_hwpEQBhP&time_continue=251&v=z_dSvKKo-vQ

Switzerland is moving gold to the US. They say war is coming.

Why have all the Ukranian officials fled?
http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/07/confirmed-amidst-sharpening-crisis.html

sermonindex Jul 27, 2016

Amen Julius!

We must remember these words!

But that doesn't mean these things shouldn't be looked at in reality.

You know what it reminds me of honestly? What if Agabus stood up in the book of Acts and prophesied the coming famine to Jerusalem for which preparations were made & someone stood up and said:

"Take no thought for the morrow, what you shall eat or drink or what you shall wear....seek the kingdom of God & all these things will be added into you".

Would there be truth in that statement? Of course! Jesus said it & had it recorded in red letters so it's true! However, if used an excuse to ignore a prophetic word of warning, it would be out of step with the spirit of God would it not? And it would have, in that case in particular, cost many lives. It would also be "despising prophecies". I'm not saying you're doing that, but sharing a warning in line with true prophetic words/warnings ISNT NECESSARILY "WORRYING".

I know what the Lord has shown me (in part through a glass dimly for sure, but nonetheless intense) & I am not "WORRIED" but I am not naive with my head in the sand of "Tony Robbins style optimism" either. 😊 If in cases where true prophetic warnings (prophetic words, prophetic dreams & visions, etc.) are sounded one is always getting such responses what it looks like is "practical cessationism". Where people say they aren't cessationists, but practically speaking where the rubber meets the road they are. Or they are the sole end all be all final judge of what is and isn't prophetic, from God, & what they consider "ridiculous".

This is important. No one should be running around in a fretful & worried spirit. I agree. But blowing a trumpet or sharing what the Lord has said &/or shown isn't always necessarily worry. The prophets all throughout scripture and time know this. And God still sent them.

Blessings,
Jeff

sermonindex Jul 28, 2016

Jesus was very measured and balanced in His teaching and preaching and with so many reading SI, I am grateful that I can post scriptures that provide a balance to Christian living.

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TMK Jul 28, 2016

Roger my man you need to find yourself some reputable news sources. You're going to drive yourself crazy.

sermonindex Jul 28, 2016

1 John 4:18
There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

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RogerB Jul 28, 2016

I don't want to spread fear. I just see world events and pass on what is not reported in America. I realize we need to have trust in Jesus. I do. But at the same time there is wisdom in looking at events around us. Jesus said when you see these things happening around you will know the end is near. it's important to see things around us. I don't want war more than any other person. In reality, Jerusalem has been surrounded by many different armies for some time. The word didn't say they would all be fighting. Just surrounded.

sermonindex Jul 28, 2016

I Love that verse Julius! Only in context it doesn't mean stick our heads in the sand when major world history events are starting to come up on the horizon around us. It's talking about not fearing punishment because we are loved by God (& so are free to love others). Let's look at it again, but in its actual Biblical context (which will show us it's original intent):

17By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because as he is so also are we in this world. 18There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.

True as it says elsewhere that "God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love & a sound mind", but again, what if such verses were quoted as a response at Agabus' prophecy in Acts? Or what if when Jeremiah, Hosea, Isaiah, Jonah etc. stood up and prophesied of impending judgement if the people didn't repent, the only response was "Joshua said fear not!" Someone actually did do something like that in Jeremiah actually now that I think about it. It was Hannaniah, the false prophet.

sermonindex Jul 28, 2016

Ahhh, that's great, you'll love this verse too, then.

2Tim 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

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Lol. Did you even read my post? I already quoted that one for you. 😊

But application of scripture & context is everything. If in WW2, standing in front of a German church building a saint told another one "a bomb!" As it dropped out of the sky, would you think an appropriate response would be just standing there and saying "perfect love casts out all fear"?

Or even as Hitler came to rise, what of those who refused to stand up & speak truth in the face of it and just said "our kingdom is not of this world"? Would that be an appropriate application of that scripture? That way of thinking would have saved Richard Wirmbrand a trip to prison, but he didn't do it.

The best example for an analogy is the one on Agabus prophesying about the famine & if someone would have quoted Jesus on "don't worry about tomorrow....take no thought for what you will eat or drink...seek ye first the kingdom of God & all these things will be added unto you.." Have you not at least considered that (you didn't respond to the question/idea I posed)? Or that people can look at the news & what's going on without "worrying"? Not worrying & occupying doesn't necessarily mean being a monastic hermit with his hand in the sand, you know? I'm not trying to be contentious or argumentative either friend, honestly. Have you even been open to consider what I'm saying at all?

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