Nutritional Thread

Hello brother

I am up for having a discussion about good nutrition, having alieviated quite a few of my symptoms from two serious conditions - untreated (long story) Lyme Disease and Hashimotos, both of which threaten to destroy my mind and body at age 66.

So I am into organic grass fed and *finished* beef and lamb, which incidently have far less omega 6 than chicken, for heart disease sufferers, loads of steamed organic greens, no dairy, no seeds grains or legumes, no nightshade vegetables, ghee and animal fats and only berries for fruit, AND OF COURSE NO SUGAR OR ALCOHOL! so basically a paleo diet, but with lots of fish especially raw oysters which are the most nutrient dense food known to man.

For breakfast I just steam a pan full of greens and have whatever meat or fish like steamed wild salmon that is around all cut up small. I don't cook proper meals so much now.

I cured my diabetes this way and lowered my blood pressure. My brain has improved greatly and also the heart symptoms I was having ie arrythmia and pain.

I have huge platefulls of salad which I love and sometimes make a dinner with a gravy made from kuzu root for thickening, and I make a bread from plantains.

It really is the ultimate healing program from a Dr Jack Kruse who is a neurosurgeon and longevity guru. I believe that Christians should be treating their bodies as though they were athletes and live as long as they can because it takes years to train a good wise saint.

I also make sure I get sun on my body, cut out blue lights at night, switch of my hifi at night and rise and go to bed with the sun.

Jeff I would like to know more about alkaline water.

Brother

You cannot just stop taking meds - you have to correct the condition then taper off them preferably with a doc supervising. I just never took meds for my conditions though the doc is dying to get me on statins, but my next test should show that I no longer need them.

You should do your own research on the new advice for heart conditions and see that the old advice has done nothing to help.

They have been actively lowering cholesterol with statins in the US for 50 years and heart disease is still the number one killer. Go figure.

The new trials have shown that sugar is very bad, all processed food, vegetable oils, carbohydrates and especially low fat are bad. We need fats but they must be good fats. Meat from conventional methods is not good it needs to be grass fed and finished not fed grains. Grains and vegetable oils have been brought in because they were a cheap means of feeding the hoards. See the result healthwise.

On this diet I am the best I have been foor many years and gaining energy and strength all of the time.

Green smoothie. It works for me, keeps full and stabilizes mood, healthy and tasty.
Blend in a blender:
- green leaves (1-2 leaves of kale, or collard green, swiss chard, spinach or other)
- 1 banana
- 1/2 apple (I use green)
- 1 pear or 1/2 mango or strawberries, any fruit
- 1 big cup of spring water

Use organic if you can and use very ripe fruit. (I ripen them on the counter top)
Enjoy for breakfast or as many times as you want. :)

Great thread. The Paleo diet sounds good, Brenda. I have a family member who has Hashimoto's. Is it curable? Seems like it is linked to Lyme disease. I have heard Lyme disease called "The Great Pretender", because so many other diseases find their root cause in Lyme Disease.

For instance, Michael J. Fox was diagnosed with Lyme 3 years prior to being diagnosed with Parkinson's disease. They should have treated the Lyme disease for him but instead they treat the Parkinson's.

30 million undiagnosed cases of Lyme in America, so when someone tells me they have hypo or hyper thyroid or Hashimoto's I tell them to go get a Lyme blood test (Igenex or Western Blot).

Also, how much of our food supply is being tainted with chemicals, drugs, GMO's?

Finally, gluten seems to be real bad for people and many don't know it. How do you test if you have a gluten intolerance?

So glad you are getting better health, Brenda. The Lord is good!

Thanks! Yes the Lord is good. He has been leading me in what I am doing to heal my body after years of getting nowhere with it and no medical help. I was a difficult case due to mercury poisoning when young, with hypothyroidism since then.

Some with Hashimotos have to just give up gluten and dairy for their thyroid antibodies to go down until they reach remission but others must quit all grains and often, adopt the autoimmune paleo diet like the Dr Terry Wahl's one (she cured her MS) which is much stricter than plain paleo. But all patients with Hashi's will have leaky gut which means that they should quit gluten.

In fact many think that everyone should quit it as it is harmful to all these days because we all have leaky gut to a certain extent due to toxins, GMO's, medications etc as you say.

Yes often Lyme Disease causes Hashi's and other autoimmune conditions (I have 5 now). Lyme is often misdiagnosed, and like with me when it comes to treat it, you are too sick for any meds including antibiotics.

Good call to tell people to get tested if they are hypo but tests like Western Blot and Igenex are often unreliable (you known your stuff!). It should be primarily clinically diagnosed but a short course of doxycycline, a rife device which is what I use, or a herbal microbial like Samento, will trigger a Herxheimer (detox symptoms) reaction if Lyme is present.

I am now on what is known as the epi- paleo diet, which is high in fish so more omega 3 than just a grass fed meat diet.

It has been found that our diet directly affects the way our genetic defects are expressed, and switches them off. So any damage to the DNA, or inherited conditions, can be corrected.

Brenda,

Great info. You are right that people need to find a doctor that can treat them clinically, but the Igenix and WB blood tests will at least show bands (IGG, IGM). I am looking forward to replying but have to catch a plane for the East coast for a week (business) and then fly to Ohio to relieve my sister who will be taking care of my mother this upcoming week. My mother's residence was struck by lightning and burned down yesterday. What she did not lose from the fire she lost from the water from the fire trucks. Two weeks from now, by brother and sister-in-law who live in Ohio will be back from their son's wedding in California.

Will talk soon,

Oh wow Julius,
Sorry to hear that about your mom's home. Is she physically/personally?
Jeff

I am sorry to hear about your mother and will pray for her.

It is the diagnosis which can be made clinically. The trouble with any Lyme testing is false negatives and especially with newly acquired infections.

You can alternatively have a sample of blood looked at through a dark field microscope where you will see the spirochettes if they are present.

The NHS will only allow about two weeks of antibiotic treatment which they say is sufficient, no matter what tests say, not sure how long they will treat in the US, but it never is, some taking them for 5 years of more and still infectious. Also doctors treating Lyme apart from the guidelines must take care or they will lose their licences.

A lot buy their own antibiotics. It's best prevented.

Hi Jeff,

She is fine physically (but very distraught) and at my brother's house. Appreciate prayers for her salvation.

Understood & Definitely.
God Bless,
Jeff