"The Lord is my protector"??

Brother quick question. Are you combat trained in weapons? Have you ever taken the life of another in the course of war? If so how did you feel?

Just curious.

Brother thanks for responding to my question.

Brethren I will speak using myself as an example. I do believe that the Lord is my protector. But I also believe that God expects me to employ common sense. For example I am caretaking a house for a dear friend of mine. Because this house is under my stewardship. I make sure that the doors are locked. I turn the security system on when I leave.

Also I pray protection over the house before I leave. And if I am going to the store or running an errand I pray protection over myself. Then I will turn the security system on and lock the door. And leave to conduct my business.

If I am walking to the store and I come to a traffic light. I will observe the regulations and cross when the signal changes. If I'm coming to a street with no traffic light I will look both ways and make sure that the traffic is clear before I cross. Yes the Lord is my protector. But there are certain common sense and responsible actions I take so as to not presume upon the providence of God.

If somebody picks me up. Of course I will put the seat belt on. These are simply common-sense practical steps we take. But will you notice something in these steps? It does not require me to take a life.

I have already stated on the other thread that my vision does not allow me to have a weapon in this home. I would not qualify for a conceal and carry. But let's say I had the vision. Let's say I could get a conceal and carry license. This goes beyond common sense practical things such as turning on a security system are putting on a seatbelt. I am conveying that I am prepared to either wound or kill a person if they come into this house.

So the question is am I prepared to live with the consequences of taking a life. I have already shared where a military chaplain said in his counseling of people that have taken lives in the course of War. They have felt that a part of their soul was dead when they took that life. And that was in the course of duty.

Nowhere in the New Testament do we find that Jesus ever took a life. When two of His disciples wanted to bid fire from heaven to come down and consume a village. He rebuked them and said they did not know what spirit they were of. Jesus also said that the son of man did not come to destroy life but to save it.Jesus also taught that the one who picks up the sword will die by the sword. It is already proven that violence begets violence particularly with with guns.

Are there practical ways, beyond a security system or locked doors, that we can take to protect our homes? Ways that would not require the use of a firearm? Or the taking of a life?

Yes there are practical ways. But a great majority in the forum will reject what I'm about to suggest. You will dismiss this as mere superstition and perhaps witchcraft. But for those who are baptized in the Holy Spirit. You will know what I'm talking about.

But here goes for the few that have the faith to put this into practice. First walk the perimeter of your property. Pray for God's protection over your property as you walk around it. Walk through your house and pray protection over each room of your house.

Walk a bloodline around your house employing the blood of Jesus to protect your property and your house. Pray for God's protection over each of your children and your loved one, your spouse.

Stand at the center of your house and read Psalm 91 and pray Psalm 91 over your home and your property. Ask for God to charge his angels to protect your home property and loved ones.

This is what I do for the house that I can take. Praise God in His Marvelous protection this house is still protected. And I have been stewarding this house for about 4 years.

Brothers and sisters if we truly believe that anyone who would want to do us harm is under the influence of demonic powers. Then doing the above and I might add perhaps even praying the Ephesians Armor chapter over your home as well as Psalm 91 will prevent any demonic powers from coming nigh your dwelling.

But again I know that a great many of you will poo poo this on the Forum. But for the few that have the faith to believe this. I pray that God will truly protect you.

As usual my thoughts.

What do you think brother? I said there are common sense approaches we have to take and terms of protecting ourselves and and that which we are steward over.

But in terms of protecting ourselves and that which we are steward over. Are we prepared to take a human life?

That is the question I'm trying to bring to this forum. Are we prepared to live with the consequences of taking a human life under the justification of protection? Are we prepared to live with the consequences that we have snuffed out a life under the guise of protection?

Brothers I dare say that many of you who have a conceal and carry have never addressed these questions. I hope that those of you who have a CCW will seriously consider these questions. Because when you pull out that weapon and you've prepared to pull that trigger. Remember you're going to have to live with the consequences of your actions.

I honestly believe that those who entrust himself to God's protection. And those who pray for his protection that God will hear those prayers and protect them. To me this is a far more simple Christ centered strategy then trusting in a CCW that may take the life of another. That is assuming I had the vision to get a CCW.

What I have suggested in my previous post I employe. Because my vision will not allow me to have a weapon in this house. But even if I had the vision. I do not believe I could live with the consequences of having wounded or taken alive. Particularly when God said that if I call upon his name he will save me.

Again my thoughts.

Bear, how do you think Christian policemen live with themselves when they have to shoot someone to protect the defenseless?

Anyone who has been through a serious CCW class understands the gravity of letting a bullet leave their gun. Every bullet you own has your name on it. A cop or person with a conceal carry understands the immense responsibility and should not want to shoot anyone. There are always a few exceptions to any rule.

In our society, you don't have to be a cop to defend the defenseless. Will it be easy to do? No. Will it be easy to live with? No.

We are all happy when cops or soldiers save us. The Jewish people were very thankful that soldiers liberated them from concentration camps. Christians were happy about that too. Many of us would not turn down a cop who wants to use a gun to save us or our family if some wicked people were threatening to wipe us out after doing evil things to us.

The question being asked is if anyone here had ever shot or stabbed someone or hit someone with a baseball bat? Or beaten anyone up with their fists? No? Then what's the problem? If and when it happens then we deal with it.

Years ago my dad was driving us kids home from church along with a dear old Saint, Mrs Waters who we gave a ride to every Wednesday night. One night a drunk guy swerved and almost ran us off the road. By a miracle we did not crash. My dad honked his horn at guy. He followed us off the freeway and when we were waiting at a light the guy came at our car with a pick axe and smashed through the drivers side window and proceeded to beat on my dad. I was about 15 years old at the time and immediately began to cry out to the Lord with the dear old lady in the back of the van. By this time my dad was gashed on the face but had managed to open the car door and get out to better defend himself and us. My dad had no weapons but he was a former golden gloves boxer. All I can remember was seeing the assailant against the wall getting his stomach punched repeatedly until he begged my dad to stop. Which he did and the guy surrendered his weapon and was held until the police had arrived. To this day my father absolutely hates the memory of beating on that guy in self defense. He loathed doing it but he had no other choice. Later my dad visited the man in jail and led him to Christ. He asked the police to drop the charges and I believe they did but my memory is fuzzy on the outcome. Bottom line is that my dad hates defending himself but had no regrets considering the circumstances.

To those who oppose guns I would ask, would you use ANY force at all to defend the innocent or to diffuse a deadly situation?

To those who oppose guns I would ask, would you use ANY force at all to defend the innocent or to diffuse a deadly situation?

Mark,

They probably think it is only ok for Christian policeman, but so far no one is responding.

Yep, something wrong with wanting others to put their lives in danger and save us and at the same time being unwilling to take on the same responsibility.

At minimum, Believers should stand up to bullies. Everyone has their way of doing it. The Ten Boom family put their lives in danger and all but one paid the ultimate cost.

I have never understood believers that don't stand up to bullies, especially when they have authority to do so. Jesus always stood up to religionists bullies.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Show me a "mama bear" who won't put her life on the line for her cubs.

My wife doesn't have a violent bone in her body, but try to hurt her kids and she won't think about her life at all in trying to save them.

Jesus doesn't make cowards. No spirit of fear.