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Why some brethren are banned from the SermonIndex forums?

sermonindex Sep 6, 2016

Saints,

It is always with great reluctance and long-suffering that we ever have to come to the place to remove an account and ban it from posting to the SermonIndex.net forum. We always seek to give much freedom in the discussions and do have reasonable community rules that are in place: https://www.sermonindex.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=44556&forum=13

We also realize that as a moderator on a public forum with Christians from all different denominational backgrounds that we cannot ever please everyone or be in the place where all choices that are made will make everyone happy. But choices do have to be made at times.

What being banned from the SermonIndex does NOT mean:.

It does not mean that you are not a Christian who is going to heaven.

It does not mean that you are a Spirit-filled godly Christian.

It does not mean that myself or others would not fellowship with you in person.

It does not mean that you everything you believe is wrong.

But what it CAN mean when someone is banned from participating in the discussion forum section of the website:


It can mean that they are not speaking with grace and constantly attacking others.

It can mean that they are holding to doctrinal positions and constantly arguing them.

It can mean that they are not able to listen to any directions from a moderator or godly believer.

It can mean that there is an constant agenda in posting on a subject or retaliating against those who do.

For the sake of the testimony of Jesus Christ on this website we unfortunately do have to ask some believers not to post on the forums anymore and ban the account. This is something that is never done on a spur of a moment but with long-suffering over the situation.


To avoid gossip, mis-understandings and any confusion we are clearly sharing with the community that we have taken down these accounts from the forums so they cannot post:

jeffmar1130
Julius21
Rev__Enue


There has been a constant asking, warning and exhorting these brethren and others not to continue to attack each other, pursue a posting agenda on various topics. The Scripture below I believe speaks "in-part" to this situation. They are good brothers and I am sure fruitful in the ministries and local churches they are involved with. Yet on the forums here though they have all been a blessing to I am sure many, the debating and not finding unity or agreeance to disagree in grace has not been found.

This has caused continual dissensions and has become a work of the enemy of our souls to bring this atmosphere to other believers. It is not producing anything fruitful and at times the discussions have brought shame to the Name of Christ. We are all guilty of this in part but we must not allow a habitually practicing of this believers believers world-wide.


Philippians 4:2 New International Version (NIV)

2 I plead with Euodia and I plead with Syntyche to be of the same mind in the Lord.

The forums are a benefit for some believers for a season and many read and reference them or find them in searches.

May we seek to be full of grace, love, gentleness and truth in our postings and realize a world is watching and our Lord is recording all.

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MrBillPro Sep 6, 2016

This is very sobering news, I think as long as the same repetitious threads are continually allowed,we will probably see more of this. I don't think there is anyway to do this on a forum, but if one persons posts were limited on each thread, this would probably be the silver bullet. To be honest, I think the reason why a lot of folks don't start threads anymore, is because lately most go south in a hurry, and become anything but edifying. There is so much in the word that our little finite minds will never understand, once we all realize this, SI will become a much friendlier place to visit.

sermonindex Sep 6, 2016

Bill

Perhaps you are overestimating the importance of this forum.

sermonindex Sep 6, 2016

There is so much in the word that our little finite minds will never understand, once we all realize this, SI will become a much friendlier place to visit.

Brother,

This is a wonderful suggestion and I am not sure how easily it could be implemented but what we could suggest to saints is to try and make minimum posts to each thread and when making a post to take time making it very meaningful and well thought out. I believe as you said this would remedy quick answers that go back and forth and usually start to name-call and pick on minors.

We have so much we do not understand or fully know and that is a wonderful example you are sharing that we should all have humility built into our responses, threads and answers.

For anyone who reads this thread perhaps they can consider your thought there to make a more meaningful answer into a thread and not multiple shorter exchanges.


Perhaps you are overestimating the importance of this forum.

Brother, of course there are many more important things, but the forums are a part of this ministry and testimony beside these godly sermons that it is at least "important" they do not detract or ruin the testimony of these messages being on the same website.


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Heydave Sep 6, 2016

Greg,

I'm glad that there has been some resoution to what has been a very unfruitful season on the forum, even if there was some colateral damage, in losing at least oñe good man. Hoepefully we can get some more open discussions with more participants and less dominated by serial posters.

On another realated issue, can I ask if you can give reassurance that there are not posters on here with multiple sign in names. It has been known to be the case in the past and suggested that this could still be the case. I for one would be very reluctant to engage in discussions with folk if I thought this was a possibility. It's just dishonest! I take it you can verify sign in names to actual people or emails. Why anyone would do this is beyond rme, but I know it happens.

sermonindex Sep 6, 2016

On another realated issue, can I ask if you can give reassurance that there are not posters on here with multiple sign in names. It has been known to be the case in the past and suggested that this could still be the case. I for one would be very reluctant to engage in discussions with folk if I thought this was a possibility. It's just dishonest!

Brother,

Agreed. This is absolutely not allowed and if anyone tries to do this and is found out the account would be immediately removed. This is "un-Christian" to have multiple sign-ins and playing games in the dark in this way. It would be behaviour in the real world off-line that would be very wrong.

Let us commit to pray for the website ministry and forums that the Lord Jesus Christ would be honoured and glorified and saints encouraged in their walks with the Lord.

sermonindex Sep 6, 2016

It had to be done. And it was done well.

marcmc

sermonindex Sep 7, 2016

We should also insist that people use their real birth names when signing on to SI.
Emailing a copy of their birth certificate to the moderate and signing a pledge form that they will post only using their real birth names and nothing else should be enforced. If they are women and have taken on the husbands name that would be okay.
And IF one is caught posting under more than one name he/she should be severely reprimanded and spoken to in a harsh manner. This must not be tolerated!
No handles should be allowed such as the many ludicrous names people use in this place. Whats with names like Anonymous, bearmaster,natonforjesus, appolus, Crispy and thousands more ?

sermonindex Sep 7, 2016

I misplaced my birth certificate when I was "born again"!

C'mon...a bit much. What next, government security clearance? We are not all "out to get" SI, but actually respect and trust this venue for its "sufficient" legitimacy in developing a place to share the joy of God's Word with anonymity.

Love-in-Christ (without having to know THAT much about you, except that you belong to Him, too).

kyp

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MrBillPro Sep 7, 2016

Katina, what an awesome word, you brought me to tears.

sermonindex Sep 7, 2016

I'm so sorry to see this happen, as I feel partly responsible. I posted some things on persecution and things got contentious pretty quickly. Had I known this would have happened, I wouldn't have posted them. Please forgive me for that. To share the love of the Lord and make sure words are seasoned with salt and full of grace is so important. However we respond to others is how we treat Jesus. It's easy to misunderstand how someone may be saying something because you can't hear the tone used. I pray that we all grow in grace with discussions that glorify the Lord. God bless all of you.

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docs Sep 7, 2016

sherri2, I bear witness you're a good person with a good spirit.

sermonindex Sep 7, 2016

We should also insist that people use their real birth names when signing on to SI.
Emailing a copy of their birth certificate to the moderate and signing a pledge form that they will post only using their real birth names and nothing else should be enforced. If they are women and have taken on the husbands name that would be okay.
And IF one is caught posting under more than one name he/she should be severely reprimanded and spoken to in a harsh manner. This must not be tolerated!
No handles should be allowed such as the many ludicrous names people use in this place. Whats with names like Anonymous, bearmaster,natonforjesus, appolus, Crispy and thousands more ?

Brother,

we actually do encourage the real "first name" to be used and that appears in all new registrations on the website. This brings more reality to the discussions and is something that we have encouraged for over a year as the signatures now show the first name field.

Also towards multiple accounts we are actually quite serious that this is not allowed and something that should not be done. If you do have multiple accounts this would be good to share so that we could resolve that. This is not a fun internet forum that just allows everything under the sun, there are hundreds of Christian forums like this on the internet. Rather we want to see a godly benefit and testimony to the Lord Jesus Christ by the interactions of the body of Christ here online.

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beekpr Sep 7, 2016

Friends in Christ,

I have been greatly blessed by the sermons by men of God which have been made available on this site - many thanks, Greg. I do not post much - when I joined the forum I was hoping for more meaningful,thoughtful discussions on subjects relating to bringing ourselves and our people back to a dynamic relationship with the living God. I am sure Greg shares my passion for revival - could but our hunger for knowing Christ and inspiring other believers towards the same be reflected in our posts!

Beekpr

David Jantzi

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dougr777 Sep 7, 2016

SermonIndex.com is the Lord's work and in everything there should be order and some basic biblical rules to follow. As a moderator for other groups, I understand Greg and "love the bretheren", but this needs to be a safe place. When I created my account, I chose my name as I want to be known for who I am and encourage others to change their username if they can.

sermonindex Sep 7, 2016

"We should also insist that people use their real birth names when signing on to SI.
Emailing a copy of their birth certificate to the moderate and signing a pledge form that they will post only using their real birth names and nothing else should be enforced. If they are women and have taken on the husbands name that would be okay.
And IF one is caught posting under more than one name he/she should be severely reprimanded and spoken to in a harsh manner. This must not be tolerated!
No handles should be allowed such as the many ludicrous names people use in this place. Whats with names like Anonymous, bearmaster,natonforjesus, appolus, Crispy and thousands more ?"

The irony of this post on THIS thread is remarkable. This is either a 12 year old boy or a very immature person writing. If it is a child then these highly inflammatory and sarcastic remarks can be somewhat excused but this child like all children who get out of line should be disciplined.

If this is in fact an immature adult then I do not know for the life of me why they is still here? As Doug said, this website is something the Lord raised up and should be respected as such. Those who come onto this website to cause trouble, to snipe, be sarcastic, demean others and generally behave like petulant children should first be disciplined and if then they still refuse to show humility they should be asked to leave.

All things should be done in order and each of us must learn to respect others and consider them more important than ourselves for this is the true Spirit of Christ.

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Heydave Sep 7, 2016

I am encouraged to already see many different contributions to the some of the current threads, which is producing beneficial encouragement. I put this down to the fact that folk are more inclined to contribute when they don't feel that the posts will become dominated by one or two individuals pushing their points.

Anyone of us can become overbearing and condescending at times, without planning or meaning to, so it maybe that we need to accept when we are called out for this, even if we don't think it is justified, that maybe it's worth taking time out to consider our hearts and even see if we could have come across that way.

Mark (Awakened), I know you got upset when I said on a recent thread that "your post came across as really conceited". I did not mean that as a personal attack on your character, meaning 'you are a conceited man', but rather that particular post came across that way. I'm sorry if you took it that way and maybe I should have said this in response at the time.

I think it also behoves us all to limited the frequency of posts on any particular thread and allow for others to contribute. Just like we would (hopefully) in face to face discussions. We all have different characters, and those who are more forthright need to hold back a bit and those who are more reluctant maybe need to step up, if they have something to contribute.

sermonindex Sep 7, 2016

Notdarkyet says we should use our real names? Taking the Mickey l think.

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mama27 Sep 7, 2016

I have not used my real name because I have asked for prayer a number of times for my family who are not walking with God. I have felt that if they happened on my requests, they would feel betrayed on a public forum. Is this not ok? Please let me know if you want me to remove my account...

sermonindex Sep 7, 2016

Perhaps Notdarkyet would like to set the example and tell us his full name or at least his first name.

Before Greg opened up the membership he signed me up under the old account as Bearmaster. My signature is Brother Blaine. But people also know me as Blaine Scogin.

Notdarkyet would you please set the example and do as the honor and tell us at least your first name. It probably would be a lot easier to post back to you them posting NDY or Notdarkyet.

BB which stands for Brother Blaine. Or BBS which stands for Brother Blaine Scogin.

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