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There has to be death before there can be a resurrection

sermonindex Sep 15, 2016

Strongs Concordance meaning of the "Cross"

4716 staurós ”“ the crosspiece of a Roman cross; the cross-beam (Latin, patibulum) placed at the top of the vertical member to form a capital "T." "This transverse beam was the one carried by the criminal" (Souter).

Christ was crucified on a literal Roman cross (4716 /staurós). 4716 /staurós ("cross") is also used figuratively for the cross (sacrifice) each believer bears to be a true follower-of-Christ (Mt 10:38, 16:24, etc.). The cross represents unspeakable pain, humiliation and suffering ”“ and ironically is also the symbol of infinite love! At the cross, Jesus won our salvation ”“ which is free but certainly not cheap! For more discussion on the untold suffering of Christ on the cross see 4717 /stauróō ("to crucify on a cross").

[The "cross" (Mk 8:34) is not a symbol for suffering in general. Rather it refers to withstanding persecution (difficult times), by the Lord's power, as He directs the circumstances of life. As Christ's disciples, believers are to hold true ”“ even when attacked by the ungodly.]
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Matthew 16:24-26

24 Then Jesus said to His disciples, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. 25 For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. 26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

Philippians 3:7-11

7 But what things were gain to me, these I have counted loss for Christ. 8 Yet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith; 10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.

2 Corinthians 6:1-10

1 We then, as workers together with Him also plead with you not to receive the grace of God in vain. 2 For He says:

"In an acceptable time I have heard you,
And in the day of salvation I have helped you.”
Behold, now is the accepted time; behold, now is the day of salvation.

3 We give no offense in anything, that our ministry may not be blamed. 4 But in all things we commend ourselves as ministers of God: in much patience, in tribulations, in needs, in distresses, 5 in stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labors, in sleeplessness, in fastings; 6 by purity, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Spirit, by sincere love, 7 by the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armor of righteousness on the right hand and on the left, 8 by honor and dishonor, by evil report and good report; as deceivers, and yet true; 9 as unknown, and yet well known; as dying, and behold we live; as chastened, and yet not killed; 10 as sorrowful, yet always rejoicing; as poor, yet making many rich; as having nothing, and yet possessing all things.

2 Timothy 3:10-12

10 But you have carefully followed my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, love, perseverance, 11 persecutions, afflictions, which happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra””what persecutions I endured. And out of them all the Lord delivered me. 12 Yes, and all who desire to live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution.


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Jesus is Alive....song by Todd Smith of Selah

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People of the Cross....song by Selah

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Heb 13:12-15
12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come. 15 Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name.

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Heb 13:12-15
12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come. 15 Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. "

Amein to this and the whole thread so far !

The key to revival, resurrection, union with Messiah, walking with Him, seeing His Life, Living His Life,
dwelling TODAY on earth with Yhwh in union with Jesus,
laying down our lives one for another, considering our lives not even worth trying to resist evil or prevent death,
the key is being with Jesus. In His suffering, death and crucifixion,
so that perhaps,
we may also share in His Resurrection LIFE (TODAY, on earth as well as in the life to come) ! YES !

E
Elibeth Sep 16, 2016

Sherri2,

Precious Words.

The kingdom of God, that The Lord has called us into, through The Holy Spirit,is the resurrected life,...which iS Life,....true Life.
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The kingdom of God, the resurrected Lord, in us.
Coming in,by way of The Holy Spirit,...quickened,..
Led by The Spirit of God, in this kingdom of The King.

It has just come to me,..
When Jesus came preaching, " The kingdom of God is at hand," It was at hand, it was lived out in Jesus.


And was in His hand to give to anyone,that would receive Him.

( says it is The Fathers good pleasure to give you the kingdom.)

And yes,...there has to be a death, if there is to be a resurrection.
Also..a dying daily to be a resurrected Life.

Lord bless you,

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elizabeth

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Hi Elizabeth, years ago I had no clue what this passage meant...it is so incredible to ponder. If I truly love Jesus, this is what I must do. This is what it means to deny myself, take up my cross daily and follow Him. I can't live unless I die.

Know Him
Know the power of His resurrection
Know the fellowship of His sufferings
Conform to His death

Philippians 3
10 that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection, and the fellowship of His sufferings, being conformed to His death, 11 if, by any means, I may attain to the resurrection from the dead.

The Lord bless you...

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