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AbideinHim Oct 4, 2016


Democratic Resolution Would Honor Planned Parenthood as 'Essential Thread in Fabric of Society' - CNSNews.com

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) introduced a resolution last week to "recognize the importance of Planned Parenthood's contributions to women's health care and reproductive rights in America over the last 100 years." The resolution voiced strong support for the nation's largest abortion provider, declaring that "the organization remains an essential thread in the fabric of society, and it will be key in the next century to assisting millions of women, men, and young people in accessing the health care they need and deserve, no matter who they are or where they live." "Planned Parenthood should not be defunded, attacked, or discriminated against for their role as a vital women's health care provider across the country," the resolution stated. (Read more)

- Father God, we strongly come against this resolution in the Senate in the name of Jesus, and speak out that the truth of what Planned Parenthood actually does will come out even more because of this effort to promote this evil institution.

We pray that the issue of their selling baby parts for outrageous profits will ever be before the public and the mainstream media will not be able to portray it in any light except the evil that it is. We speak against the misrepresentation of them being an organization that provides healthcare unobtainable elsewhere and pray for God's warriors to rise up against this genocide, in Jesus' name, amen and amen.

- "That innocent blood be not shed in thy land, which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance, and so blood be upon thee." (Deuteronomy 19:10

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dolfan Oct 4, 2016

Sneak peek at the plaque.

In Recognition Of Your Contribution To Genocide
And More Than 40 Years Of
Abominable Murders Of Unborn Babies,
Millions of Shattered Adult Lives,
Infliction Of Profit-Motivated Psychological And
Emotional Trauma On Vulnearable Women Everywhere,
And Supplying Stem Cell Harvesters Cheaply Obtained Genetic
Material Disguised As Advancing Medicine,
The Souls Of 100 Million Dead Babies Presents This Plaque
Of Gratitude To

PLANNED PARENTHOOD


(You do know I made that up.)


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staff Oct 4, 2016

Hi All
This is an issue that has been stirred up inside me for the last few weeks.
Abortion is such a great evil a horror.
However on my reflections I have come to the conclusion that pro Abortion campaigns are running rings around us.I want to be honest about it,we are loosing.Before we can start winning we have to be honest and regognise that fact.
Thats the starting point I believe.....
Now we have to ask why are we loosing?
We then have to ask how are we with God on our side going to address the situation.
Lets write down specific reasons why we are loosing and try with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit come up with away to deal with that problem.
For isntance we are not getting simple truths accross:
I heard a brilliant email read out on Tv yesterday:IF WE ACCEPT THAT DEATH ENDS WITH NO HEARTBEAT WHY SHOULD WE NOT ACCEPT THAT LIFE BEGINS WITH A HEARTBEAT.
Lets Think outside the box on SI and come up with some answers,solutions and plans specific in nature and turn this battle around.Come on Girls and Guys we can do this we can turn this situation around.The Enemy is clever but we have the smartest most intelligent person on our side.
Please have a think and a prayer and write one simple thing down.
I Will start,this is a particular weakness the pro abortion campaign have I have noticed with the help of God.Have u noticed any weakness?
Language Problem:Use of Term "Fetus"
Possible Solution:Make them say "Baby" or "Child"
Ok your turn.......

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TMK Oct 4, 2016

1) In general the democratic platform is pro-abortion but it also very pro ecology and animal rights etc. I see this as a glaring inconsistency- they will go to great lengths to protect an endangered mollusk or orchid but do not see fit to protect a human life.

2) every pro-abortion advocate is a person who was not aborted

3) this is a little "out there" but if gets to the point that parents can genetically assure that their children not be homosexual or transgender there will be an outcry by the LGBT agenda that fetuses have "rights" not to have their sexuality tampered with. The second they say a fetus has rights, they lose on the abortion issue because surely a fetus would also have the right not to be killed.

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staff Oct 4, 2016

Hi Tmk
Thats it exactly all of those points are useful and I especially think point 3 is so apt and useful,
Whose next....?
Staff

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staff Oct 4, 2016

Hi Tmk
Let them answer the question
Should we be allowed to abort a baby thats Transgender?
Staff
Whose next....

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InTheLight Oct 4, 2016

the organization remains an essential thread in the fabric of society, and it will be key in the next century to assisting millions of women, men, and young people in accessing the health care they need and deserve, no matter who they are or where they live

Isn't the unborn child a person that needs and deserves health care? The average pro abortion advocate ignores this question but that is the only question that really matters. Is that unborn child a person? If not, then abort away, no excuses or arguments are needed. If yes, then there is no excuse that is valid for abortion, none. This is the question we need to press.

In Christ,

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staff Oct 5, 2016

Hi Inthelight
Firstly I hope Abideinhim is not offended by the direction the thread is going by my behest but I really feel this is important and can change to a separate one if nessacary.
Secondly I think your totally right for two reasons one of course an unborn needs and deserves health care and two its a simple question that needs to be considered and answered.
I touched on it earlier as well when talking about the langauage problem they have with fetus and baby.
What are you pregnant with?is another way at looking at it.The answer is always a Child or baby or a boy or a girl or at a stretch they may say Human.
My point is I guess this monster has many legs; lets cut the legs out from under him one by one
We need practical tools to deal with the issues.
One that stands out a mile for me is that the majority of children (someone said 96% ithink its 98 or 99)are aborted
due to illegitimacy or economic reasons.
So in effect these Children are being "Sacrificed"
Its good old "Child Sacrifice"
Everyone knows human sacrifice is wrong and unacceptable.
Our Placards and Posters are saying the truth but its not having effect we need to change the point of attack.
If WILLIAM WILBERFORCE can help end African American slavery surely we can succeed too.
If anyone else has an insight or wisdom from God please post...

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staff Oct 5, 2016

hi
Quote from Documentary (about having a child with Downs Syndrome and testing for Downs Syndrome)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07ycbj5
What kind of Society do we want and what kind of person do we want to live in that society?
What I thought was going to be a tragedy ended up being a comedy.
Just watching its very good so far
Staff

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staff Oct 5, 2016

Hi
Just have to post this from documentary
In Iceland in the last 5 yrs 100% of all pregnancies tested with Downs Syndrome have been terminated!
Tearful heart rending
Staff

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AbideinHim Oct 5, 2016

"As an Illinois state senator, Obama was so supportive of late-term abortions, he resisted efforts to protect unborn children born alive after failed abortion procedures…

"Barack Obama, as chairman of an Illinois state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion,” NRLC legislative director Douglas Johnson told LifeNews.com at the time.

Johnson said Obama did so "even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion.”

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TMK Oct 6, 2016

The DNA of a newly conceived fetus is indistinguishable from the DNA of an adult.

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ccchhhrrriiisss Oct 6, 2016

That is a profound thought, TMK!

During my first internship for NASA, the interns and co-ops were able to attend presentations once per week where various NASA personnel lectured on various topics related to science and technology.

One of those lectures focused on one of the Mars missions. One of the primary goals was to successfully land a rover on the surface of the planet and sift through sediment to find the "building blocks for life." The speaker mentioned that "the world would change" if life -- in the form of any single-celled organism -- could be found.

I remember thinking at the time that NASA would make a declaration about life on Mars if they found a single simple "life" in the form of a single-celled organism deep under the surface of Mars. Yet, it is difficult to get pro-abortion activists to admit that there is a human life just a few inches inside of a mother's womb.

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staff Oct 6, 2016

Hi
The last two examples of simple truths about abortion are amazing.
The DNA being the same and the NASA simple life example.
On Obama I guess belief in God is not enough to stop you supporting the likes of abortion because along with that belief you hold other beliefs as well at the same time while relationship with God is different in the sense that your belief overides everything.
Yours Staff

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ccchhhrrriiisss Oct 6, 2016

Hi Staff,

Good point. It is remarkable that a current talking point regarding whether or not abortion is immoral is that we should "trust women to make that decision." Tim Kaine spoke these very words at the Vice Presidential debate this week while arguing against Mike Pence. Kaine's words have been echoed by other politicians who support abortion despite claiming to have "faith" or "religious beliefs" against the practice.

Yet, the same politicians and groups that advocate "trusting women" to make decisions about ending the life of a child before he/she is born don't believe that women have any right to decide when, how or where a child learns about sex (as they argued on behalf of mandatory sex education that includes everything from "safe sex" to abortion to ways to go behind your parents back).

Those same people also argued in a 2012 court case that residents of California (of which a majority voted against gay marriage in a 2008 state constitution proposition) that "such decisions can't be left up to a vote." Those individuals also don't trust women to make up their minds about buying health insurance. So, the notion of "trust" is just a silly talking point.

In other words, such groups don't really trust the people when it comes to moral issues like abortion. In that same California election regarding gay marriage, such groups heralded the notion that a slight majority had set a "precedent" by voting that children as young as 10-years-old could be taken to an abortion clinic by a school counselor during school hours without their parents' knowledge or consent.

I believe that such attitudes are a sign of the times. The press and media -- largely for-profit corporate oligopolies -- have successfully made LGBT and pro-abortion activists "heroes" and faithful Christians or people in general who simply believe that abortion is immoral as "villains." People are prone to stereotypes and the media is a primary catalyst for them.

When my wife sees me praying for the people of this nation, she notices that it weighs heavily on my heart. She often says that it is a losing-proposition "because the end will come no matter what." That makes a lot of sense. However, I do believe that it matters to each individual as we go down this rapid descent of history.

I was discussing homeschooling with a few people the other day. I pointed out that something so basic and simple as the right of parents to educate their own children is banned in several nations in Europe, Asia and even Latin America. I was surprised that two of those individuals agreed and said that they hoped that it would soon be banned in the United States. Their reason? They said that "too many religious fundamentalists are anti-science and forcing their children to believe in God."

Ichabod. No matter what people are persuaded to think about America's founding fathers, I think that we can rest assured that they would have loudly disagreed with such beliefs.

I agree that a REAL relationship with God is vital in directing each person's moral compass. I also think that there is a "measure of faith" in everyone that, in the very least, points their moral compass toward God (whether they realize it or not). Unfortunately, the world around us is providing false directions when it comes to that moral compass. As that moral compass now spins like a propeller for so many, I feel more and more homesick for our Lord while feeling the sorrow for those around us.

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TMK Oct 6, 2016

Chris- I love your point about the search for alien life. Very true.

I think we can all agree that there is no logical reason that supports abortion. Any argument that a fetus is not a living human being is vacuous and pro abortion folks know this.

It is simply a sinful rejection of a truth that they KNOW to be true for their own purposes.

As such it is a spiritual problem not a logic problem. Logic will not sway those determined to believe lies.

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staff Oct 6, 2016

Hi Chris n Tmk
Its something on my mind even if we give it all we have to combat abortion are we still going to be defeated because of the Age.Are we praying for a lost cause sort of thing.
I guess my an answer is I dont know for sure that we would loose.I do know for sure that if we loose in the sense that Abortion becomes permenant or legal everywhere we still will save thousands or millions of babies by an effective intelligent campaign.I know we have one thing on our side :We do not have to tell lies.
I know that their is a hard line pro abortion group of people but the majority of people involved or pro abortion are just people swayed by falsehood.
I know that this hard core group are similar to the false prophets in Elijahs day and I believe they need to be challenged whether its by me or you or the Church.
I do know I feel inadequate to do anything about it but isnt that just the perfect time God can use you?
Yours Staff

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ccchhhrrriiisss Oct 7, 2016

Hi Staff,

I once heard a story about a man who was vacationing on the coast. The man walk along the beach each morning. One morning, he happened to notice that the tide washed ashore tens of thousands of starfish.

As the tide rapidly receded, the man noticed a boy throwing starfish back into the sea. He watched as the young man would pick up a starfish, look at it, and then throw it into the sea.

After watching the boy do this about a dozen times, the man walked up to him. “"Do you truly think that you'’re making a difference? You can’'t possibly throw all of these starfish back into the water. You're wasting your time."

The boy bent down, picked up another starfish, looked at it and then threw it into the sea. He said, "It made a difference to that one."

When I approach the issue of abortion, it isn't just about the lives of the babies themselves. After all, they are innocent and will find themselves in the arms of the Lord even prior to having taken their first breath.

Rather, I am also greatly concerned for the mothers of these babies. The goal is to help prevent these mothers from the psychological, emotional and, most importantly, spiritual consequences of aborting their own child's life.

I can't imagine the stress that they must go through when they decide to kill their own child.

For some who were raised without any inclination of spiritual matters or with a broken moral compass, they may try to make excuses by pretending that there is nothing wrong with it. They argue that this isn't a "life" or that it isn't really a HUMAN life. They try to dehumanize that baby by referring to it through clinical terms (e.g., fetus, embryo, etc.). The goal is to be able to live guilt-free.

Some even hide their guilt behind pro-abortion activism. However, study after study has shown that there are widespread lasting consequences that affect such women for years (and even a lifetime). Oddly enough, many pro-abortion organizations (like Planned Parenthood) actually dismiss this as little more than a stigma caused by (you guessed it) religious and anti-abortion groups.

I think that there are other girls who get abortions because of fear. Some feel ill-equipped for motherhood. Others are afraid that their lives will have changed and that whatever dreams of their life is dashed by the prospect of having a baby. Others are certainly afraid of what their parents, friends, classmates or those around them will think -- that their reputation will be ruined. Some girls still want to be thought of as "good girls" in their parents' eyes. I read about one girl who admitted that she aborted her child because she was afraid that few men would ever want to marry a single mother with "such baggage". They are so afraid of these potential consequences that they will decide to end the life of their pre-born child in order to preserve the "life" that they want to continue living.

So, the outreach is really two-fold. It is to protect the lives of the unborn babies -- but also to help guide women away from making such a monumental decision that they will carry with them throughout eternity.

It often seems like a "lost cause" as this world grows so callous toward truth. It is disheartening to watch or hear so many foolish people march in the effort to keep a "right" that would justify their sin.

Like the boy in that story who endeavors to save starfish, the ultimate war might still be lost. However, the battle doesn't have to be lost for each and every person in that war. Christ went to the cross for each and every one of us. I think that many evangelical efforts are lost because they focus on the "every" and not the "each."

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staff Oct 7, 2016

Hi Chris
Yes that story came to my mind as well before the last post and you are totally correct the mothers are of equal importance.
I do think that the majority of abortions are because of socio economic reasons and are in effect "child sacrifice".
Obviously these socio economic reasons are like you said because of their parents,what society thinks and the inability to support the child(paraphrasing)
Thats why I think calling women that have abortions murderers is unhelpful and doesnt sway anyones opinion.It also doesnt at all help the women of course,
Staff

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staff Oct 9, 2016

Hi All
Ive been thinking on the subject of abortion again today.
If I ask the question
How would abortion effect the "Special Olympics"? or Para olympics?
Will the answer be so be it,we can get rid of these problems by aborting all the babies?
Any thoughts?
Yours Staff

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