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Because of the angels

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jochbaptist Nov 24, 2016

A while ago, on another Forum, I read the thoughts of someone concerning angels.
Maybe by sharing some of his thoughts on this matter, one might understand the concept of "because of the angels" better.
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Angels are the eyes of the Lord

I'm sorry that it took me so long to get back to you on this, but here are some of my musings. Before I begin, let me state that I'm not seeking to pass what follows off as doctrine, but I personally strongly consider what I'm about to say to be true. Regarding "the eyes of the Lord", we read such things as these:

"His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;" (Revelation 1:14)

"And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;" (Revelation 2:18)

"His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself." (Revelation 19:12)

Jesus' eyes are "as a flame of fire" and we read the following in relation to angels:

"And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire." (Hebrews 1:7)

Here is where it was originally said:

"Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:" (Psalm 104:4)

Both Jesus' eyes and angels are likened to "flames of fire", so I personally consider that there may indeed be a correlation between the two. We're also told the following about "the eyes of the Lord" in scripture:

"For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars." (II Chronicles 16:9)

"The eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth" and we read concerning angels:

"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it." (Job 1:6-7)

"Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it." (Job 2:1-2)

Both the sons of God and Satan are angels and they are depicted as those who, like "the eyes of the LORD", "go to and fro in the earth".

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Blessings.

T
TMK Nov 25, 2016

It is entirely possible that the 1 Corinthians passage is talking about evil angels.

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enid Nov 25, 2016


TMK,

1 Corinthians? I don't see any 1 Corinthians in the thread.

Maybe 2 Chronicles, but not 1 Corinthians.

You'll correct me if I'm wrong.

God bless.

J
jochbaptist Nov 25, 2016

Hi ENID

The title of the tread alludes to 1 Corinth 11:10

-It is for this reason that a woman ought to have authority over her own[c] head, because of the angels.-

Blessings

E
enid Nov 25, 2016


Ok. Thanks for clearing that up.

sermonindex Nov 25, 2016

"It is entirely possible that the 1 Corinthians passage is talking about evil angels."

Brother Todd, can you please expound on this?

Most explanations I have seen deal with angels who can not tell the difference between men and woman (maybe because angels have no gender) but even that doesn't make a lot of sense...are they that lacking in vision?

Its a weird scripture for sure and hard to figure out. The explanation goes on to say that when angels are present in the church meetings the angels are hindered from taking prayers to God and bringing back the answers from God because a woman has not shown she is under authority. Again this makes no sense to me.

Is it because angels are so innocent and delicate that they have a rule that they do not run off with a prayer request unless they are 100% sure there is proper order in the fellowship?

It is interesting that there is another passage that deals with prayers not being answered and ironically it also has to do with women...
"In the same way, you husbands must give honor to your wives. Treat your wife with understanding as you live together. She may be weaker than you are, but she is your equal partner in God's gift of new life. Treat her as you should SO YOUR PRAYERS WILL NOT BE HINDERED". (1 Peter 3:7)

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TMK Nov 25, 2016

Recall in Genesis that fallen angels were attracted to women and seduced them. It is not clear why they were attracted to human females. But I have heard it expounded that when evil angels see the head covering it means the female is "off limits."

I have also heard it expounded that the word angel should be translated "messenger" (it is in other places in scripture). The women should be covered for the sake of messengers from other churches. Why this would be, I have no idea.

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narrowpath Nov 25, 2016

Watchmann Nee gives some light on this in this article

http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/neeonheadcovering.htm

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